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Post by whitesince63 on May 23, 2020 11:57:29 GMT
I think footballs finances at all levels are going to struggle next year OM. Certainly if games are behind closed any TV money will significantly reduce, as will sponsorship accordingly. That in itself I would see as a positive longer term and might force PL clubs to rein in on the ludicrous wages and bonuses they are currently paying. General sponsorship all through the league will also reduce as companies look to repair their balance sheets. I’m not sure the bigger clubs at least have woken up to this yet and whilst most PL clubs should be safe I do fear for many Championship clubs with high debt. In fairness the smaller clubs who already live within their means should be less affected overall, although I do suspect some may fail. Interesting times and there will certainly be changes in the way footballs done from where it is now.
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Post by whitesince63 on May 28, 2020 18:04:53 GMT
So the PL has finally stated a date to resume. It will be interesting to see the reaction from fans and how many are going to bother paying, or even not paying if it’s free, to see crowd less austere games. I suspect not as many as the PL tries to make us believe. Equally they are convinced that crowds won’t still gather outside grounds, good luck with that, especially at Liverpool. Are the police going to ensure groups don’t meet to watch games at home or other places contravening social distancing? How long will it be before a player, manager or official comes down with the virus? It’s all going to happen, so even if the PL starts again, what are the odds on it actually completing I wonder?
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Post by OohMac on May 29, 2020 9:28:25 GMT
My opinion. Sheff U vs Villa and Man Citu vs Arsenal. Will i watch those games? Yes and I think there will be a buzz around them, a novelty. But an optimism that one step at a time we are getting back.
Three or four weeks down the line will i watch Leicester vs Newcastle. No.
I think other non essential elements are coming back into play. I dont think a Big Mac is ever essential. So dont think football is as hypocritical as I did a few weeks ago.
Still some questions to be asked. Big game on the Saturday relegation 6 pointer, or FA Cup final, and your captain, goalie and striker test positive? Are they injured? Do you postpone is there a minimum amount for a postponement. We have a silly rule of 3 internationals, surely that sets a precedent.
I think it will make social distancing a farce. We all know peoples mentality. If the speed limits 70mph they would drive at 90, if the government changed it to 90 they'll be doing 110. So I expect, "Boris says we're allowed 6 i guess 10 wouldnt matter too much more. 10, 12, 15? Not much difference is there?"
Again though thats beyond football and just society. I still cannot see championship going ahead. Dont think the demand is there for it, throwing money down the drain for all but 3 teams.
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Post by whitesince63 on May 29, 2020 13:33:31 GMT
I personally won’t be watching any of the games OM, even if they’re free so good luck if you do. I suspect if you do you will be in a minority with predominantly only fans of the two clubs interested. Having said that, I may put one on just to see how boring it really is without fans but I doubt I’ll watch it all. As for your point on key players catching the virus or testing positive, I think it’s nailed on that it will happen and that’s exactly why I think it’s entirely wrong to allow football freedoms the rest of us can’t have all because of the money involved. I think the government have made a major error here and forget the Dominic Cummings journey which is entirely politically motivated, this decision alone stands to drive a horse and cart through the credibility of their current instructions and will quite rightly be used as a defence when police challenge people gathering.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 16:39:26 GMT
The thing that get's me is that footballers can carry on playing football which is a contact sport but I still can't have any contact with my grandchildren or niece, but I don't bring millions in taxes to the government so it's 1 rule for football and 1 rule for the man on the street. Sorry OohMac but hav'in a BigMac sounds good to me and I agree with you that people will be hav'in house party's watching the season unfold. As for us we was going down no matter what unless the season was null and void so what happens next season is my concern will we ever get out of league 2 and when will we get to go to games hopefully after I get to see and hold my family again. Stay safe one and all COYWM OH I don't think I'm that bothered about football at the moment as the title is over so that's it.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 16:53:17 GMT
Chip, you mean one rule for football, one rule for government aides amd MP's and aone rule for the man on the street. What a hypocritical load of tripe!
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Post by OohMac on Jun 2, 2020 8:42:20 GMT
Fairly unrelated point but dont it deserves its own thread.
Lee Bowyer coming out and publicly naming players that refuse to play. Those players getting a bit of stick.
This wouldnt be the same side and manager that signed Oztumer from us. Who refused to play whilst still in contract for us at the time. Wonder if Lee would still have signed Oz had he picked up an injury was out for 4-6months and i wonder if the club had that conversation with Oz and his agent. We'll sign but dont play this season(we wont know) little hypocritical i'd say and maybe a bit of karma.
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Post by whitesince63 on Jun 2, 2020 16:40:15 GMT
I’m surprised any of the players want to resume OM, especially the BAME ones. Actually, those that refuse are the sensible ones because if football does resume fully, even behind closed doors, I can’t believe there aren’t going to be CV cases somewhere. If this virus is half as contagious as it’s claimed it’s only a matter of time before someone falls ill, possibly seriously and then who will be to blame? I don’t care how much I was being paid, if returning posed a threat to my wife, kids and other family, no way would I be enticed back. I promise this will all end in tears and then where will football be? Until this virus is properly under control, no physical contact sport of any kind should be allowed and the belief that crowds won’t gather is just fantasy, of course they will. Money has sadly won out for the time being but will the virus win in the end?
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Post by OohMac on Jun 3, 2020 8:39:10 GMT
Different for these as its not, directly, linked to Covid. I mean it is because the tight schedule and lack of "pre" season will apparently lead to more injuries than normal. So these played have said it is this and not risk of infection that they have withdrawn thier services.
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Post by whitesince63 on Jun 4, 2020 12:04:17 GMT
I see our neighbours Wigan have been bought. I wonder if their new owners were the Chinese reported to be interested in us but didn’t like dealing with Anderson?
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Post by OohMac on Jun 4, 2020 12:58:09 GMT
I see our neighbours Wigan have been bought. I wonder if their new owners were the Chinese reported to be interested in us but didn’t like dealing with Anderson? Again? They got sold last year.
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Post by whitesince63 on Jun 5, 2020 9:02:16 GMT
I see our neighbours Wigan have been bought. I wonder if their new owners were the Chinese reported to be interested in us but didn’t like dealing with Anderson? Again? They got sold last year. It’s probably me that’s got it wrong OM, the takeover was formally completed yesterday by Next Leader Fund from IEC so the earlier agreement as you say was done last year. Silly me!!
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Post by OohMac on Jun 5, 2020 18:03:55 GMT
Again? They got sold last year. It’s probably me that’s got it wrong OM, the takeover was formally completed yesterday by Next Leader Fund from IEC so the earlier agreement as you say was done last year. Silly me!! Ah, that would be taking the biscuit. It did say actually that this is the 2nd change of ownership in 2 years but think the initial change was a restructure wasnt it. Whealan stepped away and let son(in law?) Take reign? Wonder if Wigan still want all our players as they once did. Could help us out if they want to throw a few million our way for Buckley. Lets hope the medical is rushed through.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2020 13:24:27 GMT
At long last now we can concentrate on getting a team ready for next season In league two COYWM
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Post by davidm on Jun 9, 2020 15:03:11 GMT
Well I started this thread what seems like a hundred years ago and, at last, we have a decision.
Null & Void went long ago so we were always going to be relegated but here it is officially:-
“The League One and League Two seasons have both been ended early after a formal vote by clubs on Tuesday.
Tables will be settled by a points-per-game format, while promotion, relegation and play-offs all remain.
Promoted: Coventry City (champions), Rotherham United
Play-offs: Wycombe Wanderers v Fleetwood Town, Portsmouth v Oxford United (dates tbc)
Relegated: Tranmere Rovers, Southend United, Bolton Wanderers”
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