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Post by OohMac on Jul 12, 2024 10:37:23 GMT
The club contacted Iles and threw sand on the Maghoma rumour. Which I thought was suspicious. They've given him nothing to go off and when he does go with rumour/Speculation they pull rank and shut him down. But won't give him anything?
And why would they even worry about it?
It's all odd and at some point Marc's going to have to put his big boy pants on and tell them that he has a duty so either give him the leads or turn a blind eye if he gets it wrong.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jul 12, 2024 17:06:52 GMT
Arfield signs!!!!
Just don’t know what to make of this? Is it his experience or is it a cheap/free option
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Post by OohMac on Jul 12, 2024 17:20:59 GMT
Arfield signs!!!! Just don’t know what to make of this? Is it his experience or is it a cheap/free option I don't think it will be cheap to be honest. But perhaps it can be both. He's on a free so maybe that frees up some budget. If you're I'm doubt think of it this way. Would you have wanted someone with his experience at Wembley. Absolutely. Or like I've just said on BN he's played at Celtic Park. Do you think he'll bottle it when Wigan come here like our midfielders have done consecutively?
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Post by whitesince63 on Jul 12, 2024 19:17:55 GMT
I’m well pleased with this, looks like a really smart signing to get someone with so much experience right in the position we need it for no fee just the wages. As you say OM, having faced up to top Scottish and European football, intimidating atmospheres and more importantly a winner with several promotions, how can you complain. Some of our best have been over 30 and this guy really looks fit and well up for it so I have to give it to IE and CM on this one, I think they’ve got us one who will make a big difference both on and off the field. We’ve yet to see where he’ll play, midfield or wide but it’s nice to have options so I’m looking forward to seeing how he gets on.
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Post by kenglowhite on Jul 13, 2024 8:45:09 GMT
I've always thought every good team has at least one Scot in it. Just hope he is fit enough - should be.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jul 15, 2024 20:28:56 GMT
Linked with Karamoko Dembele (ex Blackpool loanee) Like the look of his pace and trickery, spends a fair bit of time on his arse, but still a decent looking prospect
Also linked with John McAtee. Yes, I think he’d be a decent shout at L1 level, scored 14 goals in a Barnsley side that pushed us all the way did
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Post by OohMac on Jul 16, 2024 22:05:50 GMT
Randall played and scored for posh tonight story emerging we never got close to their valuation of him.
Which I guess is fair enough. I don't think he's guaranteed quality as this seems to be the only season he's turned up for them.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jul 17, 2024 8:29:33 GMT
Have to ask, why does Marc Illes/BN advertise our potential signings or players we are chasing, when they probably look highly unlikely (£2m touted for Dembele)
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Post by OohMac on Jul 17, 2024 8:49:13 GMT
Have to ask, why does Marc Illes/BN advertise our potential signings or players we are chasing, when they probably look highly unlikely (£2m touted for Dembele) Also see Pompey want him. Seems odd that Bolton shut down Maghoma but have no issue with this, which seems ill advised to alert other clubs and unfortunately because it did excite me pie in the sky. With Maghoma carrying a knock I'm sure other clubs may hang fire, we could find ourselves front of the queue still on that score.
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Post by whitesince63 on Jul 17, 2024 10:20:48 GMT
I’m sure there’s a lot of smoke and mirrors going on here. The McAtee thing I can see but the Dembele one just looks a hoax to me if as reported several Championship clubs are in for him. Randall I don’t believe was ever a starter and I’m not even sure about Armstrong from Killie judging by how much they’re asking although if no other contenders come in I’m sure a deal could be done. Personally I’m more disappointed about young Wes Frimpong being allowed to leave since he was one of our brightest prospects. I don’t blame the kid because like other fringe players such as Max Conway and Luke Matheson they never get even a sniff at first team football. They don’t even get a chance in early rounds in the cups. Surely at 19 to 20 we should be integrating these lads into the first team fold yet we’d rather sign pointless loans like Ramsey rather than give our own a spell. If you don’t see a route through then if you’ve anything about you you’re going to go somewhere you do so it wouldn’t surprise me if Wes was the first of a few exiting?
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jul 17, 2024 12:06:50 GMT
I’m sure there’s a lot of smoke and mirrors going on here. The McAtee thing I can see but the Dembele one just looks a hoax to me if as reported several Championship clubs are in for him. Randall I don’t believe was ever a starter and I’m not even sure about Armstrong from Killie judging by how much they’re asking although if no other contenders come in I’m sure a deal could be done. Personally I’m more disappointed about young Wes Frimpong being allowed to leave since he was one of our brightest prospects. I don’t blame the kid because like other fringe players such as Max Conway and Luke Matheson they never get even a sniff at first team football. They don’t even get a chance in early rounds in the cups. Surely at 19 to 20 we should be integrating these lads into the first team fold yet we’d rather sign pointless loans like Ramsey rather than give our own a spell. If you don’t see a route through then if you’ve anything about you you’re going to go somewhere you do so it wouldn’t surprise me if Wes was the first of a few exiting? I agree on the Frimpong Conway Matheson Khumbeni but then, when have we ever produced from the B team of late? What is even the point of the B team as none get used unless it’s the Pizza Cup
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Post by whitesince63 on Jul 17, 2024 12:39:38 GMT
My point exactly rioch, the B Team was supposed to be the bridge for our own young players and the possibles like Matheson but none of them are even getting a sniff of the first team squad. What’s the point of Matheson staying her when he can surely find a place in at least a L2 or National League team and the same for all the others. If they don’t have confidence in their own ability they may as well pack up. They should be banging Evatt’s door down for at least a chance but it seems that doors always locked and bolted to them.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jul 17, 2024 15:14:47 GMT
Have to be honest, if we go into this season banking on Collins and Charles, Sheehan Rico and Baxter doing the business, then for me, nothing will change because Evatt won’t change
The fact that BN are bringing us hopeful names but with little substance (Dembele McAtee)
We HAVE to be dining at the top table from minute 1 up until Game 46 and we won’t be doing that based on the 3 very average signings and the American freebie (Arfield) we have recruited.
No
We have to be spending sensibly but certainly with the only focus on getting us up, no one’s asking the club to cripple the budget, but by the same token, forget sustainable purchases for now, it’s autos or nothing for me
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Post by OohMac on Jul 17, 2024 15:50:52 GMT
Has Frimpong been allowed to leave Whites or is it that we can't stop him going and are only protected with training compensation. (Not being clever genuinely don't know how it works with youth, especially going abroad)
Always thought that it was risky developing real young players because scouts are everywhere and as soon as you get a good season you've got prem clubs sniffing knowing that they can stock pile young players. If it works it works, if not they'll fob them off 2 years later and maybe even make a profit.
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Post by whitesince63 on Jul 18, 2024 8:07:43 GMT
Has Frimpong been allowed to leave Whites or is it that we can't stop him going and are only protected with training compensation. (Not being clever genuinely don't know how it works with youth, especially going abroad) Always thought that it was risky developing real young players because scouts are everywhere and as soon as you get a good season you've got prem clubs sniffing knowing that they can stock pile young players. If it works it works, if not they'll fob them off 2 years later and maybe even make a profit. I’m as uncertain on these things as you OM but it seems we have offered him a contract which he has declined so we can’t really stop him leaving. I suppose it depends what the contract was worth but more importantly what is his future like here. My real point is that not one player has so far come though our youth or B Team route and more importantly never feature for the first team squad, even in cup matches where they might. How many times have the likes of Matheson, Conway or Khumbeni been included let alone the likes of Frimpong and Inwood. Instead they get farmed out on loan whilst we bring in other clubs young players to sit on the bench who are no better. Fair play to Frimpong if he feels he has a better chance elsewhere and also to the others if their way is blocked here. If you reach 19 or 20 these days and you’re not even in sight of the first team squad then what’s the point of wasting your time here?
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