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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 7:58:04 GMT
So for us thick lads does this mean we are up shit creak without a paddle, I can't wait for the excitement and wins under Mr Freedman.
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Post by modfishy on Aug 15, 2014 10:10:02 GMT
What about that Mills bloke from Oldham who did so well in the cup, wouldn't he be a good partner for Mason and not be that expensive?
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Post by megsontilidie on Feb 16, 2015 11:45:47 GMT
Time will tell that Surrey, personally I don't rate Mason and without Juke who made him look better I think you'll soon find that out. Also said earlier, Freedman has zero ability to get the best from players and make changes during games that positively affect the play. Yesterday we were well and truly thumped by a team that will struggle to make the top half and it could and probably should have been much worse. This result wasn't a bad day at the office, it was consistent with results and performances since he came here. Some of us on here identified that very early on whilst others are now finally also beginning to accept it. Either way Management needs to accept that it won't improve whilst he's here, which hopefully will not now be too long.
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Post by megsontilidie on Feb 16, 2015 11:46:16 GMT
Agree he isn't good enough on his own, hence saying we need to go and get a big man now... Personally think mason is adequate for our needs, if and only if, you find the correct type of player to accompany him.. Juke did that last year but, I think it would work the same with any other juke type player... Agree that DF is not a long term appointment for me and personally I would have cut ties at the end of last season... Now we haven't, I can't see that there is a cat in hells chance of him going inside of the first 15 games whether we like it or not... That will undoubtedly place us in a precarious position but to be frank there are only 2 people whose opinions on that matter and it seems they don't share our fears... I do however think you are being harsh on Watford, with Vydra back, they are a strong outfit particularly if they hold on to Deeney.. They will be top 6 for me.. Not for one minute saying that excuses yesterday's debacle, it was poor, effortless, passionless and tactically inept, but the opposition were in my view a good example of a very strong championship team...
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Post by megsontilidie on Feb 16, 2015 11:49:42 GMT
Two good strikers help but don't make a team Surrey, better teams than us will contain them but frankly Watford apart from those two are a very average Championship side who I repeat will struggle to make top half. It only serves to confirm how far we've slipped that yo u remotely consider them as top six material. I certainly don't but we'll see. As for Garty and Eddie D's opinion of Freedman, he's now done most of their dirty work without a whimper of resistance and his contract will soon run down making him replaceable cheaply. Have you seen or heard of any contract extensions for him and his cronies?? Thought not. www.statto.com/football/teams/watford/2014-2015watford have pretty much been in the top 6 all season. ! time to suck it up Whites. don't know if you're account has been hacked, but 99% of the time in the past you talked sense. this was a rare exception in the past. it's not hindsight it's called judgement..i said same as Surrey white on the original watford thread...top 6 material.
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Post by whitesince63 on Feb 16, 2015 22:03:44 GMT
Hey, is it get at W63 day? I look pretty silly now with my opinion on Watford they have serious firepower but I still don't think they are a particularly good team and their defence is very average if they have pretentious of promotion. I think it proves the old saying that goals win games and boy can they do that. Anyway don't be too hard on me I'm getting old and senile and I'm probably just on a bad run like Wanderers at the moment but I'm sure I'll get better soon. One thing I won't do though is slink off with my tail between my legs like BTID has!! ?
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Post by megsontilidie on Feb 16, 2015 22:46:53 GMT
ha..just to prove it isn't personal, and it isn't "have a go at w63 day" , although you were on bad form on august 10th with your watford opinion, on august 9th, one of my fave posts on the forum by your good self...i gave it due credit at the time..summed up DF to a tee ! trottersforever.freeforums.net/thread/412/watford-game?page=7"Aug 20, 2014 at 11:31am megsontilidie said: whitesince63 Avatar Aug 9, 2014 at 5:47pm whitesince63 said: Won't be long before the Dougster's, curiously quiet today, are back shouting it's too early to make judgements on the season. Well my answer to that isn't printable. The team today was everything I expected it to be and so was the performance. We're just a very poor, not even average side I'm afraid and beatings like this won't help confidence nor will Freedman's insane comments about attitudes when he came here. Players I'm sure wanted to play just not for him and most of the attitude appeared to come from his direction anyway. If I walk up to you and smile you'll smile back, if I walk up to you and sneer you'll do the same. I can't ever imagine Freedman having a harmonious squad because he's too disruptive and blanks people too easily. I'm not surprised the likes of Boggers, Davvo, Chungy want out so would I where he's taking us. Yes, I know, more negativity, yawn, yawn, but one of these days you Dougster's will see the light just not yet eh? Too early in the season. ****** that is a brilliant post there Whites. i seem to remember reading it at the time but didn't give it full credit as was too busy. glad i've found it again. it's one thing us fans getting annoyed with DF's post match idiotic comments but players must read & hear of them too. they must see players he's talked up and been pally with one minute getting booted out unceremoniously. i still think the poor start to last season had a lot to do with how he treated Davo at the end of the previous season. players didn't trust Doug-loss after seeing the shabby treatment of KD. i remember hearing a story about Fergie selling Keith Gillespie to Newcastle.. he deliberately lied to Newcastle about his wages to do KG a good turn..even though he was getting rid of him. the word gets back to other mates in the squad, and they know..you do good for me, and i'll look after you. the likes of SAF treat players like their part of his family . Df treats them like lumps of meat . KD needed to go as he was playing awful but there's a classy way to do it. Andrews and Eagles have not had problems at other clubs yet are treated like naughty schoolchildren. ties in great with Joanna's post on the Boro thread about BSA's man management...even getting loose cannons like Dioufy onside.. humouring them , and getting people like Jay Jay who underperformed at certain clubs (psg) to play to his max here. i listened to GMR while at the game, and the commentator, Dearden spoke of how we looked transformed after we'd scored. surge of confidence. it didn't last long, but it's that kind of belief a good man manager gives you...you play AS IF you are already 1-0 up. with DF we play as if we are already 1-0 down. chins on chest. when you're only putting 11 tackles in ..1 per 10 mins almost... are the players really playing for you !!?!? ***** Thank you Megson, I usually attract insults!!! "
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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 17, 2015 17:18:30 GMT
Here's a question? What ever happened to Beckford?? Did DF send him to Preston or did NL?? Could NL not turn him into a striker again if we got him back??? Or did we sell him, I can't remember??
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Post by realtrottersforever on Feb 17, 2015 18:45:06 GMT
NL sent him to Preston after plating him on several occasions with little result and not much improvement in effort, he is on loan as far as I can remember.
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Post by megsontilidie on Feb 17, 2015 19:21:10 GMT
NL sent him to Preston after plating him on several occasions with little result and not much improvement in effort, he is on loan as far as I can remember. i know that's a typo but i quite like the idea of plating Beckford. plating with a custard pie, or perhaps just greek-style lobbing plates at him and watching him dance...
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Post by socalwanderers on Feb 18, 2015 20:27:21 GMT
Latest injury news:
Bolton have been handed a triple injury boost, with news that Mark Davies, Craig Davies and Emile Heskey are all closing in on their respective returns.
Mark Davies hasn't featured for Wanderers since undergoing surgery on injured knee ligaments in November, while Craig Davies and Heskey have both missed the last month of action with hamstring problems.
When quizzed about the progress of the sidelined trio, Bolton boss Neil Lennon revealed Mark Davies could be back on the field by the end of March and has hinted towards the inclusion of Craig Davies and Heskey in his squad for the weekend trip to Nottingham Forest.
"He's (Mark Davies) looking well," Lennon told The Bolton News.
"He's trained his rehab very, very well and looking in really good condition so it's just a matter of getting him back out there on the pitch.
"I don't think he's far away from that, maybe another four or five weeks.
"Emile and Craig are back on the training ground doing physical work now.
"Saturday was too soon but we hope the Forest game will be okay.
"They haven't really been involved with the first team so far but we're hoping that will happen this week."
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Post by OohMac on Feb 18, 2015 21:29:21 GMT
I said a while ago I was really worried about where the goals would come from with this injury crisis but now we're getting Heskey and Craig Davies back and I don't think any of them would make it in the team, I don't even think both will get on the bench, either or. We have Le Fondre and Clough with Gudjohnson.
Would be better to have Clayton, Pratley and Mark Davies back.
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Post by whitesince63 on Feb 19, 2015 18:42:13 GMT
ha..just to prove it isn't personal, and it isn't "have a go at w63 day" , although you were on bad form on august 10th with your watford opinion, on august 9th, one of my fave posts on the forum by your good self...i gave it due credit at the time..summed up DF to a tee ! trottersforever.freeforums.net/thread/412/watford-game?page=7"Aug 20, 2014 at 11:31am megsontilidie said: whitesince63 Avatar Aug 9, 2014 at 5:47pm whitesince63 said: Won't be long before the Dougster's, curiously quiet today, are back shouting it's too early to make judgements on the season. Well my answer to that isn't printable. The team today was everything I expected it to be and so was the performance. We're just a very poor, not even average side I'm afraid and beatings like this won't help confidence nor will Freedman's insane comments about attitudes when he came here. Players I'm sure wanted to play just not for him and most of the attitude appeared to come from his direction anyway. If I walk up to you and smile you'll smile back, if I walk up to you and sneer you'll do the same. I can't ever imagine Freedman having a harmonious squad because he's too disruptive and blanks people too easily. I'm not surprised the likes of Boggers, Davvo, Chungy want out so would I where he's taking us. Yes, I know, more negativity, yawn, yawn, but one of these days you Dougster's will see the light just not yet eh? Too early in the season. ****** that is a brilliant post there Whites. i seem to remember reading it at the time but didn't give it full credit as was too busy. glad i've found it again. it's one thing us fans getting annoyed with DF's post match idiotic comments but players must read & hear of them too. they must see players he's talked up and been pally with one minute getting booted out unceremoniously. i still think the poor start to last season had a lot to do with how he treated Davo at the end of the previous season. players didn't trust Doug-loss after seeing the shabby treatment of KD. i remember hearing a story about Fergie selling Keith Gillespie to Newcastle.. he deliberately lied to Newcastle about his wages to do KG a good turn..even though he was getting rid of him. the word gets back to other mates in the squad, and they know..you do good for me, and i'll look after you. the likes of SAF treat players like their part of his family . Df treats them like lumps of meat . KD needed to go as he was playing awful but there's a classy way to do it. Andrews and Eagles have not had problems at other clubs yet are treated like naughty schoolchildren. ties in great with Joanna's post on the Boro thread about BSA's man management...even getting loose cannons like Dioufy onside.. humouring them , and getting people like Jay Jay who underperformed at certain clubs (psg) to play to his max here. i listened to GMR while at the game, and the commentator, Dearden spoke of how we looked transformed after we'd scored. surge of confidence. it didn't last long, but it's that kind of belief a good man manager gives you...you play AS IF you are already 1-0 up. with DF we play as if we are already 1-0 down. chins on chest. when you're only putting 11 tackles in ..1 per 10 mins almost... are the players really playing for you !!?!? ***** Thank you Megson, I usually attract insults!!! " Well I suppose I have to get something right some time just by the law of averages, just obviously not with Watford eh? I don't think I've ever forgiven them for beating us in that play off final. Anyway I never took your posts as personal but I will try to be more careful with forecasts in future, don't want you to keep making me eat humble pie. ?
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