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Post by Pedro on Nov 24, 2018 16:07:52 GMT
Spud should be able to watch the game Pedro. Out of country the games are shown live on ifollow, except those that are shown on TV, then you only have the audio. Not sure if you can see it live from the U.K. using a VPN. Cost to me $9.00. Don't you need a/c to be abroad and/or non UK address? That is why VPN will not work in UK if you are already signed up with a local UK address. Only works in UK for non 3pm ko. We are WINNING š±š±š±
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 17:13:10 GMT
I listened to the game through wanderers i player. We scored I jumped up in celebration and the wife gave me a shake of the head then I calmed down abit. Second half we sounded like we was allowing them to come on to us. And low and behold the inevitable happened they scored and could have won it š” Still the happy šš¾ will have something to cheer about. COYWM
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Post by OohMac on Nov 24, 2018 17:13:32 GMT
Dropped points but my thinking is that PP clearly doesn't care about this club otherwise he's walk. Ken doesn't care otherwise he's be sacked. The players don't care because they are backing this regime even though though it's the least ambitious set up we've ever ever played.
Money has changed football no doubt about it. But it's not an excuse to go into every game with such a defeatist try not to lose attitude.
Other teams would have killed these off today. Preston have just played local derbies and won 4-1 twice. That's a bit of pride. That's desire.
Just unhappy with everything about the way were going about our business and it's probably made harder seeing an ambitious development side ripping up trees under leadership of Bolton legends who do care.
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Post by davidm on Nov 24, 2018 17:24:13 GMT
I just wish that the half time break wouldnāt come.
The manager gets the chance to instil his negative attitude into the players and we then sit back and hope to hang on.
To some extent, we did the same at Preston. We had recovered to 2-2, were hammering Preston and then half time arrives and we spend all second half holding on for a draw when we could have easily won.
What a shockingly bad goal the equaliser was today! High ball into box, bounces off someone (Olkowski I think) to an unmarked Millwall player for him to score. Just rank bad defending.
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Post by Pedro on Nov 24, 2018 17:53:11 GMT
Home TeamMillwallAway TeamBolton
Possession Home67% Away33%
Shots Home13 Away9
Shots on Target Home5 Away4
Corners Home10 Away4
Fouls Home12 Away12
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Post by Alptrotter on Nov 24, 2018 18:05:45 GMT
For me, one of the most surprising things about today was how bad Millwall are. They are a very poor footballing team and it speaks to our manager that we couldnāt take the three points, even from a winning position. OK their keeper made a couple of good saves, but for the rest, they were terrible ( and we were not at all bad) until the dead hand of Parky got us to cede more and more ground and territory, roused the crowd and gave them more confidence, until the inevitable happened. I thought the three centre backs did OK, but our wing backs, especially Olkowski, were not so good.Re Olkowski, what has happened to him? He was utter rubbish today and the decline over the past weeks carries on apace. I wouldnāt bet against him trying to get away in January, he looks totally uninterested. Taylor tries but is limited. Again I thought Williams our best player today. But, given Oztumers banishment, Parky expects too much of him. Ameobi looks out of form, Magennis increasingly frustrated and Donaldson so weak a breath of air would see him crashing to the ground. One of my least favourites, Buckley, did better, certainly better than the abysmal Noone who replaced him. How can Vela not get into this midfield?
I am now firmly of the view that we do have a squad capable of a mid table finish. We just desperately need some new ideas and approaches from a more creative and skilful coach. The current incumbent simply cannot get the best out of his squad.
By the way, does anyone else agree that the chap on Tower is utterly appalling? Now I have video too, its clear he tells us nothing about what is going on, misidentifies players all the time and rails unfairly at the referee far too frequently. Get rid of him with Parky!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 18:12:16 GMT
Spud should be able to watch the game Pedro. Out of country the games are shown live on ifollow, except those that are shown on TV, then you only have the audio. Not sure if you can see it live from the U.K. using a VPN. Cost to me $9.00. Don't you need a/c to be abroad and/or non UK address? That is why VPN will not work in UK if you are already signed up with a local UK address. Only works in UK for non 3pm ko. We are WINNING š±š±š± I'm not sure Pedro. I thought the whole purpose of ifollow was that you could watch say, if you were on holiday in Spain.
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Post by Pedro on Nov 24, 2018 18:17:52 GMT
For me, one of the most surprising things about today was how bad Millwall are. They are a very poor footballing team and it speaks to our manager that we couldnāt take the three points, even from a winning position. OK their keeper made a couple of good saves, but for the rest, they were terrible ( and we were not at all bad) until the dead hand of Parky got us to cede more and more ground and territory, roused the crowd and gave them more confidence, until the inevitable happened. I thought the three centre backs did OK, but our wing backs, especially Olkowski, were not so good.Re Olkowski, what has happened to him? He was utter rubbish today and the decline over the past weeks carries on apace. I wouldnāt bet against him trying to get away in January, he looks totally uninterested. Taylor tries but is limited. Again I thought Williams our best player today. But, given Oztumers banishment, Parky expects too much of him. Ameobi looks out of form, Magennis increasingly frustrated and Donaldson so weak a breath of air would see him crashing to the ground. One of my least favourites, Buckley, did better, certainly better than the abysmal Noone who replaced him. How can Vela not get into this midfield? I am now firmly of the view that we do have a squad capable of a mid table finish. We just desperately need some new ideas and approaches from a more creative and skilful coach. The current incumbent simply cannot get the best out of his squad. By the way, does anyone else agree that the chap on Tower is utterly appalling? Now I have video too, its clear he tells us nothing about what is going on, misidentifies players all the time and rails unfairly at the referee far too frequently. Get rid of him with Parky! Agree about Chris somebody the commentator. What an awful voice, many times full of cold and adenoidal and hawking ugh! The normal summariser usually quite good but not a regular.
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Post by Pedro on Nov 24, 2018 18:23:21 GMT
Don't you need a/c to be abroad and/or non UK address? That is why VPN will not work in UK if you are already signed up with a local UK address. Only works in UK for non 3pm ko. We are WINNING š±š±š± I'm not sure Pedro. I thought the whole purpose of ifollow was that you could watch say, if you were on holiday in Spain. Yes so did I but when you look at the rules - "Yes, to register for iFollow outside of the UK or Republic of Ireland, you will need a local bank account and local address."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 18:28:19 GMT
IMO, we did play well the first half and you're right Alp. I thought at one point in the first half that Millwall would be a team in one of the relegation places.
By the end of the first half we should have been three up. Definitely a penalty early on, then a fantastic save by their keeper. In fact he kept them in the game.
Defensively, we did well with goal line clearances, Beevers to the rescue.
Very different in the second half. Almost as if they'd taken tranquilizers to keep them from getting too excited about being 1-0 up.
Why we don't go for the jugular instead of sitting back, I'll never know. Surely, he should have put Doogle on up front? A second goal would have finished them off, but no, we sit back and wait for the inevitable. You could actually feel it coming.
Just going back to the first half, at times we played a good passing game. Thus, I agree with Alp. We have the basis of a good team, certainly based on today's first half performance.
We need a change in manager, surely and if we get the right guy in we may just finish mid table.
Lastly, a comment well known to Pedro. Do they ever practice shooting at the nets in training. Ameobi put two high and wide, row ZZ even and Noone should have put us two up in the second half when he had a clear shot on net, but he blasted it over.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 18:50:09 GMT
I suppose the good thing is we scored should have had a penalty and there keeper plays a blinder, the bad thing is we still can't keep a clean sheet hence still no win. We can't keep playing this way and hoping we can snatch a winner ? COYWM
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Post by OohMac on Nov 24, 2018 19:18:58 GMT
I'm not sure Pedro. I thought the whole purpose of ifollow was that you could watch say, if you were on holiday in Spain. Yes so did I but when you look at the rules - "Yes, to register for iFollow outside of the UK or Republic of Ireland, you will need a local bank account and local address." Royston Vasey?
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Post by OohMac on Nov 24, 2018 19:23:45 GMT
I suppose the good thing is we scored should have had a penalty and there keeper plays a blinder, the bad thing is we still can't keep a clean sheet hence still no win. We can't keep playing this way and hoping we can snatch a winner ? COYWM Chip, I'm glad it's not ruined your weekend but I cannot see the positives in taking a point from a team who on Sky Sports were described as "having a really off day and even making Bolton look good". Again in this league when have we ever won by two clear goals? I know that's not the yardstick to measure anything but it must show a level of competence. You can score, keep the others at bay and pick a team off.
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Post by thekraken on Nov 24, 2018 19:47:10 GMT
Wish Iād been watching on the web. Freezing cold and you probably saw it better than me. Didnāt even realise weād had a possible penalty until I read about it on here as it was at the far end. But itās always great to go to a live game and the travelling fans still seemed pretty positive about things and gave their full support to the team.
Very entertaining first half. We played positivelly and created chances. Some good pass and move play. Thought Lowe did well playing further forward and he was unlucky not to score at the start of the first half when Archer made yet another good save.
They must have got a rocket at half time because they came out with a lot more energy and drive. I think it was as much we got pushed back as sat back. With Donaldson replacing Magennis we didnāt really have enough options when breaking out of defence. He is too lightweight. But we coped well enough but not for long enough and their goal became inevitable.
As regards the shooting I watched the warm up routine which was pretty pathetic. They didnāt seem to take it seriously and missed the target far too often. So with the very last shot of the game Noone blasted well over when in a good position.
What next? Take the positives from the first half and build on them and get a big enough lead by half time so that the managerās requirement to sit on the lead can be met. But I donāt think weāre good enough to build a big lead. donāt think a change of manager will make them much better players. The quality just doesnāt seem to be there, which brings into question why they were signed in the first place. And Iām not sure that older ones have the appetite. Bring on Mr Ireland......
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Post by whitesince63 on Nov 24, 2018 20:01:38 GMT
Very disappointing end to the game today after what appeared a bright first half. I don't hear the half time discussions Parky has but it surely isn't a coincidence that whenever we do lead, which I grant isn't often, we always sit back and give the impetus to the opposition. We have to remember today that it was Millwall we were playing, not Man Utd or Liverpool, where a second half shut out is understandable. Yet again as with so many winning opportunities against struggling teams, we have done this and thrown away points in the process. For all the talk about a reset and new start, it was exactly the same old negative stuff we've seen so often. I really do despair with both Parkinson and Anderson alike. Parky I can actually forgive because he tries but just isn't up to it but for Anderson it's unforgivable for allowing it to continue.
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