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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 29, 2018 13:26:45 GMT
Like you Alp, I think there was promise in the side Parky picked against Hull but I think he was forced into it by Kens comments and doesn't really believe in it. I hope he does because if he keeps a settled side like that we should be fine to survive. Unfortunately I think he will revert back to type on Friday but with Villa themselves struggling we may surprise and get something. If it all turns sour, again like you I would have no problem going back a step before building again with a new and more positive manager. Time will tell but sadly I'm not the least optimistic at this moment.
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Post by cadders on Oct 29, 2018 17:26:44 GMT
Whilst I agree with the sentiment about league 1 and starting afresh I think, if we get relegated, Ken will throw the towel in, and so we may end up in a league a lot lower down the pyramid.
That makes staying in the championship, irrespective of our style of play,an absolute must.
This will decide PP's fate.
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Post by OohMac on Oct 29, 2018 19:24:52 GMT
Like you Alp, I think there was promise in the side Parky picked against Hull but I think he was forced into it by Kens comments and doesn't really believe in it. I hope he does because if he keeps a settled side like that we should be fine to survive. Unfortunately I think he will revert back to type on Friday but with Villa themselves struggling we may surprise and get something. If it all turns sour, again like you I would have no problem going back a step before building again with a new and more positive manager. Time will tell but sadly I'm not the least optimistic at this moment. I agree. I think Saturday was a bit like an OFSTEAD visit at a down and out school. We put a brave face on and made pretend everything was improving and getting there but now it's over they can go back to how it was. If I thought Parky was improving the team at all I would even argue that we can drop a division and try again. Certainly league one is something we could thrive at, but the average age is getting older. The kids are getting no where. We picked up two injuries and instead of asking who could step up we sign a couple of players with a combined age of 72 who haven't kicked a ball all season? |
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 30, 2018 9:09:57 GMT
Well I think by now we all know that Parkinson won't change, he's already talking about more team changes for Friday so that presumably means going defensive again with no place for Oz or Doidge so probably yet another 4-5 changes, defensive midfield and one up top on his own. Villa are struggling just two points above us and their fans would soon be on to them if we took the game to them. I'm sure everybody at Villa Park sees this as three certain points so why not surprise them and attack them instead of sitting back?
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Post by OohMac on Oct 30, 2018 20:50:40 GMT
Just want to look at this from another perspective and that's from Parkinsons. I'm largely ignoring his words because they just sound like cliche and soundbytes.
So few questions for Parky.
Do you even like it here? You've got fans that you can clearly see numbers are dwindling. Most are neutral at the ground but the hard-core away fans are quicker to let you know they're not happy.
Your chairman for the 2nd season on the trot has alluded to the fact that he would go go against you if needed. He certainly won't back you.
From your interviews, pre and post, you look dour and glum. You come across as fed up and that you've given up. I can't remember the last time i saw anywhere resembling a smile when was the last weekend you thought. Really enjoyed that?
After the miracle of the Macron against Forest last season there must have been a moment of reflection where he thought I almost bloody blew that. Next season has to be better. It's not.
Will he ever win back round the Bolton fans? I honestly think not at this time.
It's hard to walk away from a job no matter that field you're in. But Phil and Bolton are not the right match and I can only see it getting more toxic. If any other job comes up it would be best to get a clean break.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Oct 30, 2018 22:16:24 GMT
Good points there OoM
He could actually walk away and make it look even better for himself whereas he could rip into KA in the media and talk about the problems and constraints he’s faced, that way he’d walk into another job (League 1 of course)
If he had any modicum of self worth, he should walk out and say he’s done all he can with the tools at his disposal
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 31, 2018 14:30:59 GMT
Will he ever win round the Bolton fans? Good question OM. I believe he could, fans are fickle and if he played a system which made the best from the likes of Sammi, Oz and Ireland and started to actually attack teams and win games comfortably, I think the fans would quickly come round. I just don't see that happening though. It hasn't happened in around ten years as a manager and so I can only conclude that he's incapable of it. If you have a belief in a system and generally it works, whatever system it is, I can understand you sticking with it, even in poor runs, but when it constantly fails as is the case here then it signals to me either a lack of ability or a stubbornness to change. I think it's probably a bit of both but since to Parky, he's done everything Ken has asked of him, I can understand him feeling he's over achieved. Given his record to date he actually has by his own standards overachieved and desperately wants people to see that. Sadly people see something quite different, an individual struggling to keep it going against clubs and managers with much more resources and ability. Very sad really because I consider him a genuine, hard working guy but just incapable of operating at the level he's at.
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Post by OohMac on Nov 2, 2018 13:42:41 GMT
Trying to find ways how I can drive home how out of his depth Phil is.
In the championship last season we recorded most defeats on the trot. 8. We may challenge that this season.
His personal stats championship. He has a win percentage of 23% rounded up and loses almost every other game. Losing 49% of all games. Don't need to tell you that his goal difference isn't favourable.
Even with the excellent/fourtituous start we made this season he's brought that average to 27% - rounded up.
Unrelated but Sheff Utd sit top of this league for all the hundreds of millions been spent.
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Post by thekraken on Nov 25, 2018 19:46:43 GMT
Statistical evidence shows that there's not much point sacking a manager for having bad results. See the article on the link. This quote from it summarises the argument, which is backed up with a lot of analysis from many different leagues.
This isn’t to say that managers can’t make a difference at all. It’s just that you have to be an exceptionally good or bad manager to do so, and the overwhelming majority of managers are bunched in the middle, where replacing one with another will statistically have no more impact than fans starting to go to games in a pair of lucky socks.
www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/sacking-managers-pointless-stats-slaven-bilic-west-ham-premier-league-a8044586.html
There's lots of other articles on a similar theme on the web.
So let's just hope that Parky gets lucky.... 
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Post by OohMac on Nov 25, 2018 21:17:13 GMT
I know you probably see this coming. But in this league, at this level I would label Parky is exceptionally bad.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 17:43:24 GMT
I have said a few times, as have others, that we could do with an attacking coach on the Parky team. Defensively, we seem to be as good as we can get. In today's BN there is a feature which gives credibility to teams who hire an attacking coach.
Funnily enough, despite our lack of goals, Parky says it' not something that they have looked at and doesn't appeal to him. It isn't a budget thing, it's just not for us.
The lowest goals for in the Championship, surely it needs some serious thought and not that we have enough expertise to guide us through the current problems, as he states.
Beggars belief!
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Post by OohMac on Nov 27, 2018 21:16:07 GMT
Think we should be attacking the coach.
Out of form teams Millwall, Wednesday and Wigan. What a chance to get some points of the board. Think w will end up with a single point and then please please please tell me we get rid of this guy.
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Post by davidm on Dec 6, 2018 11:29:28 GMT
Whites63 - you may have your dream come true!!
Reading have sacked Clement!
Part 1 of dream is done - now for Part 2
Will they come for Parkinson?
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Post by OohMac on Dec 6, 2018 12:48:26 GMT
Whites63 - you may have your dream come true!!Reading have sacked Clement! Part 1 of dream is done - now for Part 2 Will they come for Parkinson? Would you sack a manager and replace him with a manager of one of the few clubs you're ahead of? |
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 7, 2018 0:22:15 GMT
Whites63 - you may have your dream come true!!Reading have sacked Clement! Part 1 of dream is done - now for Part 2 Will they come for Parkinson? It would not surprise me in the least David if they came in for Parky. I think most teams and other supporters are unaware how bad he is and just see a man who got us promoted, kept us up, has acted with honour and dignity and done it under the most extreme and challenging of circumstances. He is something of a legend at Reading and with their fans probably as down and frustrated as we are, might see Parky as a saviour. Who knows anyway, if he goes somewhere he's cherished, has a budget for January and only has to keep Reading up to be hailed a success, why wouldn't Parky want to go there rather than know his time is very close to being up here. From Kens point of view it would be a godsend because he might even get a fee for him? We haven't had much luck for a long time so I'm keeping my fingers crossed on this one. ;-)) |
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