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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 25, 2018 19:21:58 GMT
Good summary OM but Coyle having done brilliantly with Burnley and also to be fair, well with us for 18 months would feature top of your list for me. He did though become arrogant and had no idea of defending, just going all out attack, which whilst good to watch when winning was painful when losing. I still maintain that if he had recruited a good defensive coach to work with him things could have been very different. In many ways Coyle was exactly like Parkinson, just the other way round, all defence and no idea of attack. Maybe we could put the two together?? Of your replacement list I'd try David Lee first if he wanted it and if not Warburton would be my first choice but I think Heckinbotham has something to prove and might be the best bet. Of course, would either come and will Anderson act? He hasn't so far but I think this time may be different having given Parky more money for wages at least, to get in better quality players. Hull on Saturday could be a turning point and anything less than a win and competitive performance may see KA take action.
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Post by OohMac on Oct 25, 2018 21:40:14 GMT
I don't see why they woudlnt come. (Only Steve Bruce may want to hang on for the inevitable panic sackings in prem...about three weeks)
Here's how Ken sells the club. Squad survied last season and since then we have unarguably improved personnel.
Got a great keeper. Solid back 4 and cover. Bags of experience in the middle and some flair players including best player in league one last season. Plus we've got a goalscorer in Doidge.
We have the best development squad in the country and some of those players and knocking on the door, they'll be ready.
We have two investors in the wings who will make funds available.
This club isn't Leeds or Forest. You will be given time. Expectation of fans is low. What they want is you to bring your style of football to the club.
Look at the stadium too , great facilities. Prestine pitch every week. Can be proud to manage your side here.
And In all cases, who else you waiting for?
Still not sure. How's about VIP Rod Stewart tickets thrown in. Done deal.
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Post by Woppy the Italian on Oct 26, 2018 20:16:29 GMT
I don't see why they woudlnt come. (Only Steve Bruce may want to hang on for the inevitable panic sackings in prem...about three weeks) Here's how Ken sells the club. Squad survied last season and since then we have unarguably improved personnel. Got a great keeper. Solid back 4 and cover. Bags of experience in the middle and some flair players including best player in league one last season. Plus we've got a goalscorer in Doidge. We have the best development squad in the country and some of those players and knocking on the door, they'll be ready. We have two investors in the wings who will make funds available. This club isn't Leeds or Forest. You will be given time. Expectation of fans is low. What they want is you to bring your style of football to the club. Look at the stadium too , great facilities. Prestine pitch every week. Can be proud to manage your side here. And In all cases, who else you waiting for? Still not sure. How's about VIP Rod Stewart tickets thrown in. Done deal. I will take the VIP Rod Stewart tickets pal, love him. Got everything hes done....including Faces. LOL
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Post by wots on Oct 26, 2018 21:24:26 GMT
Same here Woppy. I've got Vinyl and CD's , got rid of the 8 track and cassette. Seen his live shows tons of times, spoke to him in the street too. (Toronto)
As for Oom's post. "We've got two investors in the wings... If you believe that, then you might put good money on BWFC winning the FA Cup this year.
If we win, Parky gets a reprieve. If we lose, then O think it's goodbye Phil.
Just as an afterthought, I see QPR on the edge of the top six. After a bad start just shows you what an experienced manager can do. I expect PNE to regain their composure too. Not too sure about Ipswich, but who knows.
In light of all the negativity towards Parky, where are Joanna and AndyL for comment on the clubs plight? They were regular posters at one time.
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Post by Woppy the Italian on Oct 26, 2018 21:51:55 GMT
Im still after a football wots. Been to about 30 Rod concerts and about 7 Faces, but never come close to getting one. Called my son Stewart. As for the missing 2 posters... who knows. Maybe they are beginning to see the light.
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 26, 2018 22:56:41 GMT
Yes, strange about AndyL not posting, certainly one of the most intelligent and regular posters and I hope nothing amiss has happened to him, also it's sad not to read Joanna's posts. We rarely agreed but at least she always stood by her views. Let's hope they both return soon, the forum misses them.
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Post by OohMac on Oct 27, 2018 5:27:15 GMT
Wots that was just what Ken might say to bring a good man through the door. I don't believe it myself.
There are some managers that future investment would put off but there must be a few that think it's win, win. Get backed or sacked. Take a 3 year deal with Ken now and if they want their own man they pay out. Not bad for a few months work.
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Post by cadders on Oct 27, 2018 12:44:15 GMT
Couple of points 1. Just listening to the Boro v Derby game, a Boro fan comments "Pulis has turned Boro from a 70% possession team under Karanka to a 20% possession team. It's dreadful, dreadful depressing football." So we are not on our own and it's a damm sight colder up there!!!! 2. I see Paul Lambert has taken over at Ipswich, I'd be suprised if he is a success. Btw did people hear Mick Mc's comments about Ipswich on Talksport, very scathing.
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Post by andyl on Oct 27, 2018 13:11:04 GMT
I'm back for today's match. Have been away and unavoidably had to miss Wednesday live but was in to watch tv.
My take on this is that Phil Parkinson, working for much of his tenure under embargo, confusion and within limited resource has tried his best. He is professional and seemingly well liked within.
I think that over the last few weeks he has tried in drips and drops to update our playing style replacing Beevers for example with Hobbs and Taylor by Grounds. He has given us glimpses of Otzumer but known that many games pass him by- if not entirely appreciating why.
He is an excellent defensive organiser and deserves great credit for our promotion and for winning some games in the Championship with meagre possession.
But I do not rate him as an attacking coach or strategist nor over a season does he factor in the importance of possession. So we exhaust players who flicker and fade because they work harder than opponents.
He likes wingers but favours them on theor wrong feet and tellingly when they move inside is as worried about counter- attack as creating chances..but he picked them on their wrong feet . That's an example. We may win v Hull. But we will not win consistently at home because we fall beetween stools. We don't counter attack. But we don't seek to dominate.
To pick up on the above comment we are quite Chekhov like- our lives are pretty ordinary and humdrum yet we pine for Moscow. And our world to all but the most informed seems colourless. My wife who has studied Russian culture and knows the language tells me that Chekhov is completely misunderstood and is delightfully funny and entertaining.
Alas it's lost on me. And I have to say so is the concept of what is entertaining and delightful about our current mode of play. My wife in passing has more or less stopped coming because of the dullness of fare...and given the above I imagine she is a goid indicator of why crowds fall
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 27, 2018 16:30:06 GMT
Great to have you back AndyL, your posts are always well thought out and interesting and who but you could have combined Chekhov with Parky? Genius except that I don't think Parky is misunderstood, he is every bit as negative as his systems show. I think after his previous time here, it's clear that this team would never have been chosen were he not in deep trouble. I think that showed today in the way the players didn't gel. There must have been pressure on them knowing the importance of the game to Parky but just throwing a team together like today is always likely to produce a disjointed performance. I don't though think Parky's heart was in this team and actually I think he'd have been better sticking to his usual system, despite our poor run, especially against a Hull team who themselves are struggling. For me though, I think today just confirms how out of his depth Phil is and it must now be time for him to go. Looking at Bradford who again lost 4-0 today, there could be a job for him to walk back into?
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Post by OohMac on Oct 27, 2018 19:51:29 GMT
Anyone got the link for Phils just giving severance pay?
Cheeky sods just said he doesn't feel like there is a decision to be made?
Your decision should be to watch homes under the hammer or Jeremy Kyle on Monday morning!
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Post by thegrud1 on Oct 27, 2018 20:23:57 GMT
Prediction....If he,s not sacked by wednesday ,,,,we stuck with him till next season !
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Post by cadders on Oct 27, 2018 21:05:29 GMT
PP's sacking wil depend on how close Ken is to selling the club
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 21:29:05 GMT
He will never get the sack as long as Anderson is in charge 😢😢
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Post by OohMac on Oct 27, 2018 21:33:35 GMT
PP's sacking wil depend on how close Ken is to selling the club But selling the club would depend on championship status. If you were an investor, even if you knew nothing about "soccer" if you went today and saw a stadium with more empty seats than taken what would you think?
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