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Post by OohMac on May 22, 2024 16:20:33 GMT
I'll get hammered for this but a season of a Mike Bassett style manager playing 442 really would excite me.
Baxter Jones Toal Santos Johnson Thomason Sheehan Smurf(MJ Clone) Alan Thompson(throwback) Collins Charles
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Post by whitesince63 on May 22, 2024 17:43:29 GMT
No OM, I might be the one getting hammered but I don’t actually have any problem with the play out from the back system Evatt prefers as long as we have the players to play it. Clearly at the moment we don’t because neither of our wing backs can defend which is why we’ve conceded so many goals. I suppose you have to start with Rico but he has to be made to move the ball much quicker, even against teams with a high press. Surely they can work on a system to counter that it’s not rocket science. In fact we did it at Oakwell in the play offs to geat success so we can do it. Saturday was extraordinary and I’ve never seen such ineptitude from so many players at the same time so we really shouldn’t use that as the measure. I do agree though that Evatt does have to work on a plan B because playing the same system all the time is too easy to plan against for the opposition. Personally I’d like to see us sign a physical presence up front. I know that’s anathema to Evatt but there are times when you just need to play route one. Surely there are big guys who can also fit in with Evatt’s general system? I’d also like to see more experience in the team instead of attempting to sign only young players with a sell on value because just getting out of L1 must be the priority next season. As we’ve all said for two seasons we need a tough guy in midfield to strengthen our soft centre. Evatt has to concede that sometimes the players actually on the field need to just find a way to win not slavishly follow Evatt’s plan. That’s why we’ve failed this year. Most important IE needs to listen to different voices and be prepared to adjust and if he can’t confirm he can do that then I think he has to take himself somewhere else. 😁
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Post by riochforthereebok on May 22, 2024 17:57:45 GMT
If Evatt is in the chair, we will not be promoted in May 2025, you read it here first
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Post by OohMac on May 22, 2024 18:41:45 GMT
If Evatt is in the chair, we will not be promoted in May 2025, you read it here first Tell me about it. In his 4 seasons here I wonder if he's ever finished above where the bookies said he would? Ferrari cap and key ring and drives home in Fiesta.
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Post by riochforthereebok on May 22, 2024 20:52:25 GMT
Ian Evatt, if still in the chair, will be up against
Steve Evans - Rotherham Nathan Jones - Charlton Gary Rowett - Birmingham Michael Duff - Huddersfield Michael Skubala - Lincoln Phil Parkinson - Wrexham DAVE CHALLINOR - Stockport Nigel Clough - Mansfield
Some canny opposing managers there, some that are at clubs with plenty coin to throw at it, some with better credentials than Evatt and some unknowns that will surprise, just as Mousinho and Buckingham did, so if we do stick with Evatt, I don’t think his style of football will better 80% of those aforementioned managers/teams
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Post by whitesince63 on May 22, 2024 21:54:50 GMT
Ian Evatt, if still in the chair, will be up against Steve Evans - Rotherham Nathan Jones - Charlton Gary Rowett - Birmingham Michael Duff - Huddersfield Michael Skubala - Lincoln Phil Parkinson - Wrexham DAVE CHALLINOR - Stockport Nigel Clough - Mansfield Some canny opposing managers there, some that are at clubs with plenty coin to throw at it, some with better credentials than Evatt and some unknowns that will surprise, just as Mousinho and Buckingham did, so if we do stick with Evatt, I don’t think his style of football will better 80% of those aforementioned managers/teams To be fair Rioch I could go through almost all of those and put a counter but there’s little point. One thing I am sure about is that Dave Challinor isn’t leaving Stockport so I think you should forget your championing of him. None of those managers have achieved appreciably more than IE other than obviously Parky who equally won’t be leaving Wrexham but then nor would we want him back here anyway. With a few tweaks I’d back Evatt to better all of those with our existing team plus a few additions but my fear is that there won’t be any tweaks in his systems or his thinkings. We’ll see shortly whether he’s going or staying but if he is still here next year I’d still expect us to top six all season and depending on who we bring in pushing again for the automatics. Whether or not we’d be more successful at the end of the day I wouldn’t like to say but it would be just as big a gamble with someone else in my view.
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Post by riochforthereebok on May 23, 2024 14:05:08 GMT
Not sure how old or new this news is..
Not the right place for this but I accidentally stumbled upon a SKY clip whilst reading the BN and it was about Dementia and one of our own - John Ritson.
This is so sad to hear and I wish him all the very best
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Post by whitesince63 on May 23, 2024 17:27:38 GMT
Not sure how old or new this news is.. Not the right place for this but I accidentally stumbled upon a SKY clip whilst reading the BN and it was about Dementia and one of our own - John Ritson. This is so sad to hear and I wish him all the very best Likewise Rioch I hadn’t heard this either. Let’s hope it’s not too severe and like you I wish him well.
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Post by andyl on May 24, 2024 12:05:38 GMT
That's sad. I played a few games of cricket with him. A good man.
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Post by davidm on May 24, 2024 13:51:06 GMT
Click on link below to see the video. Right Click and "Open Link in New Tab":- link
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Post by andyl on May 24, 2024 17:23:48 GMT
She looks just like him. Good footballer, pretty much always punted safely to winger- those were the days. He was a handy batsman, useful bowler and brilliant boundary fielder as I recall.Such a shame
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Post by riochforthereebok on May 30, 2024 15:06:33 GMT
I see Ogbeta has joined Rooney’s Revolution down on the coast with Plymouth
Did not rate him one bit, so long as Randell has a full season we’ll be reet
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Post by OohMac on May 31, 2024 8:53:50 GMT
I see Ogbeta has joined Rooney’s Revolution down on the coast with Plymouth Did not rate him one bit, so long as Randell has a full season we’ll be reet Way way below the standard for L1. I don't know how Declan John got hammered for his defensive fragility but Ogbeta no mention. What is the most amount of starts Randell made for us last season? In my head I'm thinking 4. He either cannot handle the work load asked of him or has deep underlying issues with his fitness/body. Or both. Either way he needs to be 1 of 2 bona fide left wing backs. I do not include Ashworth or Iredale in there because they are not.
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Post by whitesince63 on May 31, 2024 11:30:00 GMT
To be fair OM, I actually like Iredale at LWB. He’s much more defensive I agree but when he does get forward he puts in good crosses and has a goal or two in him both with head and feet. I just think we need to be tighter at the back this year and I see both Randell and JDC as weak links in that, especially with a wrong footed Toal on the left and a slow and ageing Jones on the right. I think the whole defence needs a shake up because if it stays as it is I don’t see any better for us next season than the last. I wonder how far young max Conway is from the first team squad because he’s looked to have potential from the limited times I’ve seen him. The same down the right with Matheson who surely must by now have either proved his worth or not? If Evatt just sticks with the same then for me we’re in trouble so let’s hope he’s got some radical shake ups planned? I know it’s still early and most are away on holiday but I haven’t heard us linked with anybody or anybody linked with ours though that may change in the next week or so? We might even have it confirmed if it’s IE making the decisions anyway? 🙂
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Post by riochforthereebok on May 31, 2024 13:44:20 GMT
I think we need some age and experience in and around the defence and midfield, be it a veteran recently released
Tomkins from Palace Ciaran Clark from Stoke Paddy McNair Middlesbrough Jake Livermore Watford Matt Phillips West Brom Ollie Norwood & Chris Basham Sheff Utd)
Players worth looking at if we are ‘genuinely’ interested in getting out of this league that we’ve called home for the last 4 seasons😡😡😡 but it’ll probably mean getting the chequebook out for one or two of them as there’ll be no decent loans of any quality lying around
FORWARDS Tyrese Campbell Stoke Free Devante Cole Barnsley Fee Macauley Langstaff Notts Cty Fee Jamie Reid Stevenage Fee
MIDFIELDERS Alex Robertson Man City (loan) Marc Leonard Brighton (loan) Callum Styles Barnsley Fee George Byers Sheff Wed Free
DEFENDERS Jamie Shackleton Leeds End of Contract Sam Bryam Leeds End of Contract Connor Roberts Burnley (loan) Nathanial Chalobah West Brom Free
Just a few examples of perhaps the level, age and experience we need to be looking at because currently, we DO NOT have a leader, a shouter, an organiser on the field that can grab us by the scruff and get that extra 10%
Interesting how Alan Nixon says we’re signing Ashworth permanently and yet there’s no mention from the club
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