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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 9:22:46 GMT
Fool me once... well. he had me fooled on the Morecambe game. No second chances. I'm as unsure about this game as any other. If the standard, as described on here, in this Lge is poor, then we are helping it along. Nevertheless, 2-1 for us. What did I say?
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Post by realtrottersforever on Feb 12, 2021 9:53:42 GMT
surely this will be a win. i'd say 85% BWFC WIN. 10% DRAW. 5% LOSS.
They really struggle to score. just 22 goals for. we've scored 31. the best.. (Exeter) have 48.
their top assister has just one assist ! a whole load of players on just 1.
I remember in the reverse fixture, previewing their best player as their keeper.. Jamie Cumming 21 yr old on loan from Chelsea.
he's helped them to 9 clean sheets. which is a good total. we have 7. worst have 1 = oldham. best have 12. salford and cheltenham
they've only had 2 away wins... but of course 1 was midweek to Tranmere, so we're quite unlucky to hit them in any kind of modicum of "form".
MM back should help to break them down. is Lee back ?
i'll go 2-0 for this.
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Post by realtrottersforever on Feb 12, 2021 10:00:09 GMT
todays story about set pieces. www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/19084669.bolton-wanderers-boss-ian-evatt-pin-points-sides-achilles-heel/Uncle Steve sums up my sentiments exactly in the comments below the story. Uncle Steve2 hrs ago User ID: 2116460 2'He has prioritised other aspects in the past'.
So we have a major weakness from set-plays (the WORST in the league) and the manager chooses to focus on other things. I find this incredible. A match is determined by how many goals you score and concede, regardless of how the ball goes in the net.
Evatt seems to be either very stubborn or a slow learner, or boththere was also one funny line....now that the style of play is bedding in..he can now make time to work on this (set pieces)..something along those lines. facepalm !!! wrong in 2 ways at the same time.
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Post by OohMac on Feb 12, 2021 12:21:40 GMT
surely this will be a win. i'd say 85% BWFC WIN. 10% DRAW. 5% LOSS. They really struggle to score. just 22 goals for. we've scored 31. the best Exeter have 48. Yeah but our 22 goals are better than their 48 so Evatts happy.
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Post by whitesince63 on Feb 12, 2021 13:29:59 GMT
Well I was obviously over confident on Tuesday, although I still believe we’d have ended up winning if events had been different. There’s no way I can’t believe this wont be a win for Wanderers, to contemplate any less with the side we have now is crazy. I completely ignore their win against Tranmere because I think most teams in this league are as bad as each other and on a given day can achieve any score, so with the personnel we now have and hopefully a little fire in their belly from Tuesday, we should win comfortably. Sadly though, the Evatt system could completely overrule that if we get another dose of sideways back, sideways back, fannying around. Hopefully with John and Maddison in the side, we will finally have some width down both flanks to get round and behind their defence, something we haven’t had all season. I’m not sure about Dapo yet. It was a good cameo and he has qualities but I’m not sure he’ll do it consistently enough. Personally I’d rather keep Arthur in if he’s fit after the shoulder injury. Anyway I’ve recovered some confidence so will go 3-1 to Wanderers.
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Post by andyl on Feb 12, 2021 13:44:38 GMT
Nothing less than four goals will satisfy me and this is the time to take our strengths forward and pot 6. Stevenage are a seriously poor team and we should attack from the off.
I'm exhausted with writing about Evatt's seeming limitations------with the caveat that Marc Iles can distort. lose context and trivialise.
Set pieces at either end being a problem. la-di -da. Opponents going down to win set piece free kicks ( or could it just be that our clumping, clumsy challenges are naive and unnecessary half the time fol-de rol) or that all our woes are down to referees ( shame) are damning indictments of a professional manageer. We could have made rtf. manager, saved a packet and known all these things from simple analysis almost from day 1.
We have really plummeted the depths and if anyone thinks we are free of the relegation mire, think again..if we don't use this February's weaker fixtures to move forward up the league we will be in real problems.
I hope Evatt can learn. I hope the players rise to the challenge, and above all although I want to see possession based football ( which by the way most teams play way better than us, not least Morecambe for the last thirty minutes) but if I see one more movement when we take ten passes to get to the opponents' penalty box and ten more to pass it back to Gilks to kick out of play, the laptop is going out of the window
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Post by OohMac on Feb 12, 2021 14:00:52 GMT
I dont think Evatt wants to learn Andy.
Just wants his vanity project to carry on. I am a forward thinking manager, I do what the best are doing. I wont sacrafice my beliefs just to win a game.
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Post by davidm on Feb 12, 2021 14:28:45 GMT
I am with everyone else on this – we must win this match.
What side will we have?
I would play the new lad in goal as I think that Gilks, albeit a good organiser, cannot get down to low balls quick enough.
He may not play Jansen though because of the loan rules. We have 7 players on loan:-
Crellin, Jansen, Jackson, Elbouzedi, John, Afolayan and Maddison
and we can only have 5 in the match day squad.
Crellin obviously misses out so who else? Jensen missed out on Tuesday so no sub keeper. I think Elbouzedi or Jackson should stand down for this match. I would never go into a match without a sub keeper.
Presumably, Jones will be in instead of Brockbank and I would hope that Lee could be back in instead of Williams. I would also start with John.
I would play Afolayan and Maddison instead of Isgrove and Gnahoua.
There is so much fire power there and, as Andy says, as long as we choose to attack instead of just keeping possession, we will win.
A lot of it comes down to the manager’s attitude to the game and Tuesday’s cautious approach stunk. If he goes out positive, we will win – 3-0 for me.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 12, 2021 14:33:29 GMT
Felt really positive on Tuesday, tried to be as upbeat as possible for a win v Morecambe and tried to be pro Evatt.....
“What a fool believes”
Bad ref and sending off aside, Morecambe should have won that game
This game v Stevenage Borough, It’s got 1 yaaaawwwwnnn 1 written all over this one and we’ll be well and truly in a relegation scrap
Truth is, had Bradfords game not fell foul to the weather this Saturday and they went on to beat Salford and we were to lose (heaven forbid) to Stevenage, we could have ended up just above Barrow and 21st out of 24 in L2, very strong possibility this could happen if Bradford win the rearranged fixture and should this transpire, fans should not accept this and somehow request his immediate removal from the BWFC hot seat
Time will surely be up for him if we lose on Saturday and even a draw should not be good enough. Would anyone want to watch this set up next season? I’m sick of being fooled by Evatt when there are far better out of work managers that would crawl to the ReeMac and I’d rather see a different chap managing us than this non league manager
Currently out of work
Pulis Pearson Wagner Poyet Mark Hughes Paul Cook Danny Cowley Chris Coleman Eddie Howe Holloway Keith Curle Nigel Adkins Paul Clement Sunbed Brown Lee & Kelly
I’d take a punt on anyone of those before I’d see my club drop into non league!!!!! It could happen, it really could 😬😬😬
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Post by davidm on Feb 12, 2021 14:40:33 GMT
Pulis Pearson Wagner Poyet Mark Hughes Paul Cook Danny Cowley Chris Coleman Eddie Howe Holloway Keith Curle Nigel Adkins Paul Clement Sunbed Brown Lee & Kelly Half of those wouldn't consider L2 - way below them! I don't want Pulis/Pearson etc - we would just be back at Phil Parkinson hoofball borefest. Please don't get us back to dreadful aimless big boot football (and that includes Keith Curle). The current manager has made many mistakes and, as stated above, seems to believe he knows best but somewhere just somewhere there are signs of an improvement.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 12, 2021 15:03:40 GMT
That’s what keeps fooling me davidm You are spot on. Somewhere, just somewhere Ian Evatt has got something (I only hope it ain’t catchin - Del Trotter)
I can see that somewhere, we probably have the best players in this league, somewhere, but it’s Ian Evatt that doesn’t see that nor know how to play them.
Formations : 4-2-3-1 exactly the same as Morecambe, he’s tried every other formation known to man and woman and still gets it wrong Tactics : This City and Liverpool system of keeper playing out from the back?? Gilks is far from Alisson Becker and Ederson and Baptiste is far from Van Dyke, so this awful trait of spending 75 minutes out of 90 just sideways and backwards safety style passing is not going to get us goals. Also, can you imagine BSA or Rioch watching Doyle almost playing a midfield role when he should be doing the Lineker and mopping up incoming crosses into the box🤔 A construction worker from space can see why we don’t win games often by 3 or 4 goals, there’s certainly nothing cavalier about this Wanderers team Substitutions : No keeper on the bench🤔 instant sackable offence After match interviews: Keith Hill must be jealous of his jabber
Nigel Pearson must surely take some credit for Ranieri’s successful Leicester team that went on to win the Prem just as Nigel Adkins did for Southampton before Pochettino took the role, so they can’t be all that bad dm? I get the Pulis call, that said, Mark Hughes only lives down the road and would surely take us on and maybe Danny Cowley and his brother would fare better than Evatt
#timeforchange 🤔
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 13:07:33 GMT
Okay, he's loaned the tools, now use them properly. We should win this one without question... looking at the league table makes me shudder. Stevenage aren't to much different than us.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 13:24:14 GMT
Hi yes it's me I have not been on here for a while but I have been tuning in and watching the games as and when I can. I find that we have all been going round in circles basically saying the same thing's and hoping it will get better maybe now we have got rid of a few of the sxit players we had but still not 100% certain about Ian maybe if he lightened up a bit and realised that the players we have are other teams castoffs apart from maybe 3 or 4 decent players and play them to there strengths until we can get better players in. Don't get me wrong some of the football we have been playing has been very good but couple that with our inconsistently bad defending and we will struggle to get out of this league. So onto today would be nice to win 2-1 stay safe one and all COYWM.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 14:26:54 GMT
Decent team that he has put out only if Delfouneso starts putting a little bit more effort than he has been putting in stay safe one and all COYWM
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Post by whitesince63 on Feb 13, 2021 14:57:02 GMT
Hi yes it's me I have not been on here for a while but I have been tuning in and watching the games as and when I can. I find that we have all been going round in circles basically saying the same thing's and hoping it will get better maybe now we have got rid of a few of the sxit players we had but still not 100% certain about Ian maybe if he lightened up a bit and realised that the players we have are other teams castoffs apart from maybe 3 or 4 decent players and play them to there strengths until we can get better players in. Don't get me wrong some of the football we have been playing has been very good but couple that with our inconsistently bad defending and we will struggle to get out of this league. So onto today would be nice to win 2-1 stay safe one and all COYWM. Welcome back Chip, the forums missed you so let’s hope you’re back for keeps. Anyway, who knows what will happen today, it certainly looks an attacking outfit which hopefully will mean less fannying about sideways and back like on Tuesday. Let’s get at them from the start and go for goals, which with this team we should.
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