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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 14, 2024 17:06:40 GMT
Des and Paul riding high in the Championship with Oxford and Derby respectively
It’s not a gulf in player quality that’s making the difference between them and us, it’s clearly a manager who has been in the seat for far too long.
Call it lucky, call it what you will, but also, FV are as responsible for this mess as well, as they have stuck with their backing of this flop for far too long
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Post by OohMac on Sept 14, 2024 18:46:59 GMT
Yeah, so when people say "well who would you get"
In truth we don't know. Pompey wouldn't have gone Mousinho(apologies if I've spelt that wrong) Oxford wouldn't have gone Buckingham and Plymouth wouldn't have gone Schumacher on form.
Gary O'Neil got two premier league jobs without experience.
What we need to do is find a manager who doesn't believe a philosophy of playing is more important than winning
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 14, 2024 19:07:22 GMT
Yeah, so when people say "well who would you get" In truth we don't know. Pompey wouldn't have gone Mousinho(apologies if I've spelt that wrong) Oxford wouldn't have gone Buckingham and Plymouth wouldn't have gone Schumacher on form. Gary O'Neil got two premier league jobs without experience. What we need to do is find a manager who doesn't believe a philosophy of playing is more important than winning So why not Clemence at Barrow, Skubala at Lincoln, and come on, we are Bolton, not Stockport, so why not be bold and ask if Challinor wouldn’t come to a 20,000 followed club in a magnificent stadium if the money was right!!! Parkhoofson is doing the business at Netflix Utd proving style over substance goes a long way (or should that be the other way around) Big Sam said he wouldn’t go back (Blackpool) but never said he wouldn’t return to Bolton, although he did say that if a chairman of a championship club said they wanted Premier League within 2 years , he’d consider them, so surely that must rule a return to BWFC out Moyes and Nolan?? Michael Beale?? Gareth Ainsworth?? Ryan Lowe?? Schumacher?? When Stoke sack him Farke?? When Leeds sack him
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Post by OohMac on Sept 14, 2024 19:58:54 GMT
Moyes and Big Sam would be used to £4M a season. I think both will be hanging around to see what happens at Everton and Southampton.
But Big Sam did employ Karl Robinson and Robbie Keane at Leeds and said they were both excellent coaches.
Point being don't be worried, this is such a good job. Ian Evatts next job, much like his signings, will be lower down than us and not fending well.
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 15, 2024 7:29:52 GMT
Moyes and Big Sam would be used to £4M a season. I think both will be hanging around to see what happens at Everton and Southampton. But Big Sam did employ Karl Robinson and Robbie Keane at Leeds and said they were both excellent coaches. Point being don't be worried, this is such a good job. Ian Evatts next job, much like his signings, will be lower down than us and not fending well. Moyes maybe OM because he has no affinity with the club but I’m not sure I see anyone rushing to offer big money to Sam at the moment either so he may not necessarily be as out of reach as you think? I’m not saying he should come back permanently and I’m not sure he’d want to but in our hour of need and that’s where we are if we’re going to save the season, I’m sure he’d consider an opportunity to step in. Let’s be honest, we all know the players are better than they’re showing but there’s just an apathy at the moment and the team seems leaderless. There’s no belief either on the field or in the stands and I just think as far as Evatt’s systems are concerned the players have just given up to them and their heart just isn’t in it. Evatt talks about us being a fast one touch side but we’re exactly the opposite, slow, lethargic and despite all the training, players who just seem lost. I honestly think any decent manager could turn this lot around in no time by just letting 5heir ability and talent come to the fore. Sam could certainly do that and those who didn’t put a show in would be gone whoever they think they are. Too many are stealing a living and have been for some time yet they still get picked every week. It’s got to stop and surely yesterday confirmed that?
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 15, 2024 10:08:42 GMT
In this period of time where watching football from your sofa has never been easier, it’s worth pointing out that almost 8 THOUSAND more folk walked through the turnstiles at the ReeMacSheet yesterday than they did at ‘top of the table’ Blackburn Rovers Ewood Park!!
I have this awful gut feeling that come Monday when the dust has settled on yet another ‘reset’ Sharon will show him a strength of support by backing him to ‘turn it around’ as that’s the easier option than sackings, payouts, interviews, media attention
Come on Sharon, he practically gave you his resignation letter yesterday when he couldn’t find the words or encouragement to change anything
He has to go now
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Post by OohMac on Sept 15, 2024 15:00:40 GMT
I'm still not sure Big Sam would want it. Would he risk tarnishing his legacy for a few months. It would be as stressful as the Leeds job but for a fraction. Imagine with his media work too would he really want to put himself and family through it.
Though his time at Leeds he took Karl Robinson and Robbie Keane and he said Karl was a top top coach. A really impressive tactician. He's never really got the breaks but maybe he could take on an interim?
And maybe Big Sam could initiate that transition. Maybe oversee it and then step back/take on ceremonial role?
As for Ian. I'm going to foresee his next interview and see how many I get right.
"Saturday was the heat of the moment and I was very annoyed. I've watched it back and there wasn't much in that game at all. We more than matched them. They've been given am offside goal. A really soft penalty. At that stage the games got away from us and its probably us trying too hard that has helped them. The 4th was just tired legs and frustration and that's not us.
We will stick together and get it right. The international break wasn't kind to us a number of our players being away and were still nursing a lot of injuries. There's still a spot in the squad and I'm always going to be interested in adding to the quality.
I know I will turn it around. There's still a lot of football to play and plenty of points to play for and I've been here before and bounced back. That's part of what makes me so brilliant. Board and Sharon are brilliant. My staff are all amazing and work so hard. Chris Markham is superman on the recruitment side.
After the game Michael Duff told me how amazing we are as a team. There's definitely loads more to come.
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 15, 2024 21:48:03 GMT
You old cynic OM. 😉
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 16, 2024 12:54:22 GMT
Completely shocked
Sharon has not only let the fans down, she’s let herself down and the vitriol aimed at Evatt will soon be amassing on her doorstep
What the hell ad Crafdock done to deserve the sack??? I never knew it was him that took charge of the team against Oxford Charlton Exeter Huddersfield
Very very poor decision and I’m completely deflated
I actually think that’s it for me until he’s gone
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Post by OohMac on Sept 16, 2024 12:54:36 GMT
Well suspected this. Turned the radio on and heard 9am Schumacher sacked from Stoke. 10am and Bolton and Cardiff considering thier managers. As time passed I wondered why Stoke announced at 9 and were yet to hear.
Assume too that there would be training. So I understood that it looked less likely to be sacking time.
THEN the announcement that Ians staying but Craddock is going!!! Hang on what about full accountability Ian. Letting a young coach from the B team take the fall. Unbelievable.
It's a decision so bad it's made me really question the whole club. Can I be bothered to listen to the buff for the back track that Iles will now HAVE to go. Certainly can't be bothered to carry on watching this crap football and nothing about Craddock made me think it was all down to him.
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Post by OohMac on Sept 16, 2024 12:55:28 GMT
Completely shocked Sharon has not only let the fans down, she’s let herself down and the vitriol aimed at Evatt will soon be amassing on her doorstep What the hell ad Crafdock done to deserve the sack??? I never knew it was him that took charge of the team against Oxford Charlton Exeter Huddersfield Very very poor decision and I’m completely deflated I actually think that’s it for me until he’s gone Few seconds behind you. And completely in agreement.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 16, 2024 13:01:46 GMT
Evatt’s just joined the Freedman Megson wall of shame and there’s no coming back from that, so apart from Evatt being brave to walk walkway when clearly he knows he’s spent, then the true weaknesses lie with FV et al
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Post by chip on Sept 16, 2024 13:33:02 GMT
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again Ian is in the safest job in football I hope he turns it around because if results go against us on we could be bottom of the league 🤷♂️COYWM
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Post by one2many on Sept 16, 2024 15:17:06 GMT
The problem now is that there will be mixed feelings. Part of me of course wants my team to win but part wants us to lose if it means a change of manager. It shouldn't be that way and shows that things have gone to far.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 16, 2024 19:05:02 GMT
Am I being overly picky here? Either Marc Illes is playing a guessing game or he HAS been told certain things by the club!!
When you read through his report, it’s all assumptions, ifs buts and maybes and not a single word from Sharon or Ian following a gutless performance where all but Sharon are baying for Evatt’s blood
At least when the CoOp Live arena faltered, the American owner came on Granada Reports to apologise
Quotes:-
“have concluded, with the decision ‘pointing’ towards keeping the management structure intact for the time being”
“No ‘official’ announcement is expected in the short term, but it ‘appears ‘that Matt Craddock, who was promoted from B Team manager to the first team set up in November 2023, is among those who ‘could leave’ the club in the coming days”
“It is not ‘yet known’ whether any replacement staff will be sought”
Is this cheap journo from Illes yet again as he’s starved of any accurate information?
You would have hoped for a ‘open letter to the supporters’ might have been apt from our esteemed owner, but no, nowt!!!!
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