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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2020 2:49:06 GMT
who's that BWFC fan in there celebrating the goal..lol. I watched the highlights too RT. No idea, but it was good to see him celebrating the way he did.
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Post by andyl on Dec 16, 2020 8:08:25 GMT
Exactly!!!! And it was true all the time last night and in all games. Don't they have heat maps and methods of recording this.
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Post by andyl on Dec 16, 2020 8:09:25 GMT
Exactly!!!! And it was true all the time last night and in all games. Don't they have heat maps and methods of recording this.
Oops didn't mean to post twice, but it's a point to reinforce. As per my report I think we won with ten last night and as per whitessince 63 observations Greenidge was useful heightwise but also defensively- although Delfouneso did sometimes run back he seldom got really engaged. He made one good pass at one point and with ball at feet is at this level clearly a threat but as for IE's comment that the front two pick themselves, surely not? Doyle runs all over the places--too much in my opinion and he does so because his partner does not. It's a reason why I wouldn't mind seeing Kioso up there.
Isgrove, however ran tirelessly up and down and that's why it was him breaking. He all but rounded the keeper- credit the keeper on that one, even if a great chance.
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Post by bonaparte on Dec 16, 2020 8:54:36 GMT
As David M said, hard to play and hard to watch. The defence, Gilks, Delaney, Santos and Baptiste stood up well to the barrage of attacks, mostly down our LHS. That May is a handful. Greenidge had lots to do defensively but did try to put a cross or two, Jones did neither. Thomasson was under constantly pressure and did well, as neither Sarsovic or Isgrove (who failed to live up to his billing) took control of the midfield, Cheltenham were just too quick to the ball for them. Delfonso and Doyle again fed off scraps, mostly outside the box, so not surprising were ineffectual. For me Delaney was our best performer, icing on cake to get a goal. So Delaney 8.5, Gilks, Santos, Baptiste 8, Thomasson 7.5, Doyle 7, Sarsovic and Delfonso 6, Isgrove 5, Greenidge 4, Jones 3
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 16, 2020 11:07:45 GMT
Exactly how I saw it Boney, I was beginning to think I’d been watching a completely different match to others from their reports, including Marc in the BN. As you say, Isgrove didn’t get close to all the hype, ran about a lot but actually created nothing, missing the best chance of the game and Jones was even less effective than he’d been on the left. Thankfully our defence was solid, including Greenidge despite being totally out of his comfort zone wide left. Still, we won and that’s the important thing. Hopefully, that result and performance where we definitely toughened up a bit from recent displays , will now be repeated for the rest of the season. I’ve already said that I don’t think there’s a team in this league we can’t beat and after last night I’m even more convinced of it.
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Post by andyl on Dec 16, 2020 12:36:51 GMT
Did no-one see that superb Jones block when he threw himself in front of a loading attacker. There were a number of those and did no-one see Isgrove running back all the time to provide extra cover. You will only have seen Delfouneso ambling back although to be fair he was part of the tin hat defence under bombardment. Isgrove made one good cross that all but found Doyle and hit a number of good corners. In passing with Thomasson on free kick duty ahead of Crawford they were better too. Isgrove made errors of course and Jones offered nothing going forward, no more really did Greenidge. But against that team, if we criticise IE for Port Vale, let's allow that the less possession, tin hat, shore up flanks and offer occasional threats was far more likely to get a result than the cavalier Port Vale approach? I'm happy to criticise IE and did v Walsall but last night surely spot on. I just felt they weren't going to score and I always thought we might- that we did was a great moment.
Credit Delaney but he wasn't perfect. In fact moments before he got caught wrong side of a player and all but conceded a daft goal.
No doubt rtf can document some of the above eg Jones' vital block should she wish?
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 16, 2020 14:22:58 GMT
Come on Andy, blocking shots and defending is what a full back should do and of course Isgrove should run back and provide cover, that’s what he should do, but it’s the going forward, creating role that I’m complaining about. Jones is supposed to be a wingback, which means he goes forward, overlaps and gets crosses in. Likewise, Isgrove was brought in to create chances for Doyle and Fonz (wherever Fonz was?) but he did little or none of that. Maybe they just had an off day, maybe it was Cheltenham’s defenders but either way, I thought they were poor from an attacking point of view and I expected more of them. Then again, maybe it’s me just being over critical, or not appreciating their better points. Either way, I was disappointed with both of them and hope they do more of the positive, creative stuff next time.
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Post by bonaparte on Dec 16, 2020 15:56:07 GMT
Totally agree whites, unusual for me not to agree with Andy, but I think he has a thing about Delfonso, ambling back, what to do? make up the numbers. Wing back jobs. I probably have one about Sarsovic, doesn't do enough for me. Funny how wheels turn, before Ramsey we all played 3 at the back, with wingers box to box, midfield stopper, rest play makers for a big striker (eg Nat) up front. OK big striker currently replaced with skillful smaller strikers, I recall Parkinson writing about playing smaller strikers (eg Frannie Lea) to run through the legs of big defenders, then small defenders, big strikers etc. Seems we are back there again, nothing new.
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