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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 14:33:48 GMT
0-1 how good are we but wait must give them time to get to know each other and gel how long
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 14:37:15 GMT
1-1 attacking football at last just keep doing that and we will win games I think
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Post by davidm on Oct 17, 2020 14:52:17 GMT
A few more attacking moves this week. This tippy-tappy between defence and midfield is causing us problems as we get caught in possession in our own half too many times. Oldham have had more half chances than us so maybe we should be happy with 1-1 but we definitely need to get a grip of midfield. How do we get Doyle into this game?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 14:56:23 GMT
Halftime 1-1 I still think we need to attack quicker and we need to stop playing around at the back it looks great with players that are comfortable with the ball but our players aren’t. I don’t want kick and rush but we are desperate for wins so we can get some confidence into our team. COYWM
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Post by OohMac on Oct 17, 2020 14:56:56 GMT
If Sarcevic is better than Darcy then RD best get a brochure for the open university.
If i was Harry Kewell i would have told the players just to keep shape because Santos will play a hospital ball and you can attack.
Much better after the goal. Delfouenso should have opened a few mins earlier. Kioso has been very good. Gordon seems shackled either by instruction or own lack of confidence. Needs to do what Kioso is doing.
Listening to ifollow gone to a guy reading tweets all saying Sarcevic is having a mare and a liability. Commentators dont agree. But they've said weve been great.
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Post by davidm on Oct 17, 2020 15:55:37 GMT
Absolute utter shambles of a team
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 17, 2020 16:05:13 GMT
Doesn’t get much worse than that. To be fair we were lucky to still be in it Oldham had so many chances. Will someone please tell me what Sarcevic bring to this team? He’s slow, clumsy, creates nothing, runs away from the ball when he should be showing for it, it’s just appalling yet Evatt keeps him in every week and ignoring Darcy. Ronan may not be the answer but I’m damn sure he’s better than Comley and Sarcevic and surely should get a run out. I’m afraid watching that it’s going to be a pretty bleak season and we really will do well to avoid relegation with this lot. Hard to find any positives after that performance but were just so easy to play against it’s incredible. Wonder what excuses Evatt will come out with tonight? Maybe the piped crowd noises were too loud and put the players off?
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Post by OohMac on Oct 17, 2020 16:06:05 GMT
Ian Evatt. Tobias Phoenix. Sharron Brittan. Michael James. Whoever. Youre lucky no fans are in allowed to see the absolute definitive moment that we reached our worst hour.
Shambles. Absolute shambles. No game management. Wrong subs yet again. They created far more than us. Thats Oldham.
Some really bad players for us. But Ian Evatt is the villain.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 16:06:53 GMT
What a waste of another £10 lost again against a team bottom of the league something is very wrong in Bolton and it’s not just COVID we need a miracle just to get some wins I’m fxcking sick of my weekend’s being ruined by this so called great team of ours. We had a free kick in there half and they score god give me strength to keep hoping and praying this bloody manager and team sort it out sooner rather than later. I’m so glad I don’t have to sit and watch this shxt in the cold at the ground COYWM
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 17, 2020 16:08:51 GMT
Appears to be no sound on my PC again unlike my iPad. Can anyone advise if I need a different sound file other than the Realtek one included? whites, it may be a little late to run thro this, 'cos you can't run ifollow on two systems. Try right clicking on the speaker icon, bottom right and run thro' troubleshoot. There is also a video on youtube to troubleshoot this too. I'll find it and send you the link later. Qut does sound work with youtube, skype etc.? You could check the mute button too. I'm not laughing, it happens. Enjoy the game. Thanks for the advice wots, I did try using the troubleshooter menu but it didn’t cure it. It did say though that something wasn’t working when it tried to fix it so it looks like it’s going to be the iPad for no!! Mind you, I might not bother at all given that rubbish again today. 🙁
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Post by bonaparte on Oct 17, 2020 16:17:33 GMT
The first twenty minutes set the tone for the rest of the match. Oldham lively, Bolton backs to the wall. I thought the back 3 played well and keeper, I assume because of the influence of Santos, our man of the match. I must have a thing about Sarcovic, for three quarters of the match I thought he was awful, I didn't hear his name until the 25th minute and then a series of give away passes in the first half. However in the last quarter he showed some good touches, but not enough from a captain for me. I cannot recall a cross from the left, indeed I only recall two or three from the right. Gordon was not at the races. The new guy looks good but I don't think he beat his man once, maybe lack of match fitness Crawford did his usual, lots of huff and puff, but no end product pass or goal. Doyle and Delfonso worked hard, but had to come deep or wide to cover the midfield, not going to score from there. One nice piece of play one goal, no more service no more goals. In the short time the substitutes were on (management criticism, too little, too late) in my view they did better than the starters, but who am I? Scores, Santos 9, rest of back four 8 (inspite of heart stopping backheader by Delaney. Comley 4, Sarsovic, 3 for first half, 6 for second, Crawford 6, needs some more dead ball practise, and to look up more. Doyle and Delfonso 7 each, what can you do when you are not given the ball in the area? Manager another 4.
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Post by andyl on Oct 17, 2020 16:18:26 GMT
The only mercy personally is that I didn't travel to watch that load of garbage. There must now be an argument for Evatt to go. He just doesn't seem up to it, does he? I did not understand the restoration of Comley and Gordon. He persisted with the hapless Doyle and Delfouneso. The horribly unfit Kioso ( despite impressing) played 90. Subs were like for like. We pile forward for two successive late deadball kicks and lose the ball with no defender covering and surprise surprise lose the game , which had been on the cards for some while given the dreadful lack of fitness coursing through the team. So two weeks running the bottom team outplayed us in every way that mattered and yet again our midfield was ponderous. All three defenders were at fault for the first goal, one losing , one not blocking and one beaten at the far. All our own freekick chances were spurned, Crawford's best caressed limply wide and so aping the pathetic demeanour with which he was approaching the game and indeed left it soon after.l I have very little positive to say. Brockbank was turned scarily twice, once earning a booking. Delfouneso and Doyle missed their good chances. Delaney nodded a chance to a forward who hit the post and Comley was caught in possession hrribly in the first half and made the worst sideways pass you will ever see in the second. Gordon looked sluggish throughout and Crellin with nothing to do did it vapidly.
So, what is par at this level? It's tough to adjust expectations and sights. Last year was depressing as several before it but at this moment I'd take Hill for Evatt. At least he picked Darcy from time to time.
Were there any good points? I thought Kioso was competitive and he assisted our goal. Delfouneso was in the right place too. Sarcevic had half decent second half after a wretched first. He does at least have a brain and did create what little we offered and I thought Gnahoua looked better in possession than all the rest. He must start next time out. For whom doesn't matter. Doyle may have pedigree but he was truly dreadful today. Nothing stuck. His passing was dire and he ahd no answer to being manhandled. Oldham were poor at the back and not very strong, so much so that Delfouneso won two early headers which I seriously doubt we'll see again. We seem not to be bothering with a left flank at all.
I cannot bear the thought of Evatt commenting on that. If we get any glimpse of ' we played well, we made chances, the referee gave us no protection, we had good possession, we were robbed against the run of play' he should be sacked on the spot. How patient do we have to be? We were sluggish, unfit, lacking in confidence, lacking in effort, naive and completely unimpressive-- a fair reflection of that game in my opinion would have been a 1-5 loss and that to struggling Oldham . Total dross.
Crellin 4 Brockbank 4 Santos 5 Delaney 5 Gordon 2 Kioso 6 Crawford 1 Sarcevic 5 Comley 1 Delfouneso 3 Doyle 1 ( subs not marked but Gnahoua the only player on the day who didn't look out of his depth save for Santos most of the time and Delaney and Sarcevic some of it.
How much more must we take!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by davidm on Oct 17, 2020 16:23:16 GMT
What an absolute mess of a performance.
A much better game than last Saturday but we were just shambolic throughout.
We got caught defensively so many times with this insistence on pass pass pass between the defence and Comlyn.
Midfield-wise, we just cannot dominate the opposition, nor can we pass accurately. The numbers of stray passes was ridiculous.
Upfront, we just don’t know how to make use of Doyle.
We started slowly yet again and Oldham spent most of the early minutes in our half.
We just played tip-tap sideways and backwards football and kept getting caught in possession in our own half.
After about 20 minutes, we lost the ball 3 times in succession. The first 2 times, we scrambled Oldham’s attacks away but the 3rd cost us. I think it was Santos this time that was caught – the ball went down their left and a quick low cross beat everyone for a simple tap in. The blame is shared as Santos lost the ball, Brockbank allowed their man to centre and Delaney lost his man in the middle.
Delfouneso then missed in a one on one with the keeper – an easy chance but fortunately, we produced our best bit of attacking of the whole season when Kioso broke down the right and to the bye-line to pull back an easy tap-in for Delfouneso.
So could we take over and beat the bottom of the table side. No is the answer – Oldham had easily more of the attacking play. The half time possession was 60-40 in our favour but our possession was all in our half.
Second half was much of the same. We attacked, Doyle missed a sitter and Oldham looked like scoring every time they attacked which was often (9 corners to our 2 tells a story).
We had survived the last 10 minutes when Oldham did all the attacking and were looking at a disappointing draw when we won a free kick 30 yards out and conceded from it. Tutte’s ball in was won by an unchallenged defender who brought the ball out and Oldham just ran with the ball away from our defenders to score. At one stage in that break, it was 4 against 2 – we were that slow.
We are now badly marooned with the strugglers in this league. It is hard to see improvement.
Marks:-
Crellin - 5 No chance with the goals but doesn’t inspire confidence.
Kioso - 6 Great assist for the goal and showed some promise.
Gordon - 4 Just one decent run forward in the whole match.
Brockbank - 5 Iffy for first goal
Santos - 6 Caught a couple of times but generally OK
Delaney - 5 Problem with first goal.
Comlyn - 3 This man cannot pass a ball accurately
Sarcevic - 5 Looked better today than recently but he also looks unfit, overweight. Slow – look at the winning goal.
Crawford - 4 Not for me – his passing is so poor
Delfouneso - 4 Scored but still contributes little
Doyle - 3 Missed a great chance in the second half. We do not know how to play to his strengths.
Tutte - 4
Mascall - 4
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Post by realtrottersforever on Oct 17, 2020 16:37:01 GMT
good grief. tempted to be very knee jerk and say this guy has to go. i'd keep trying to give him a bit of slack, but i'm just not impressed at all.
i predicted 2-1. i had a bet... i even covered the draw..and still lose my dough.
played bottom of the table last wk..failed to win. bottom of the table opposition again, who ship 3 goals per away game, and we only score 1. slow start again. 1st 20 to 25 mins and no shots on target again. we did eventually get a few.... 30mins long punt from keeper, Delf wins header... few other flicks and stuff..lands back to Delf..clean thru' on goal. but keeper saves it.
32. obviously goal from Delf. 82 mins Gnahoua fairly tame shot on target..but at least it's a tester. their keeper could've been having a nightmare. you don't know if you don't find out.
pre-match Bolton fm chat on ifollow was going on about Santos going from crap to Franz Beckenbauer in 2 games... utter drivel. i said last week my rating of him was more Davidm's 6 than andyL's 9. make him defend and pressure him and he will cock up sooner or later that's for sure. early on Kewell looked like he'd done his homework to pressure our risky playing out..but Oldham were looking as dodgy themselves doing the same thing.
McAleny was really good for them..as was the no.24 Bahamboula.
Kioso had a good debut. looked lively, energetic. got involved, and won a good share of headers. still doubt the long term sense of that when other more important positions could have been strengthened.
we still have Isgrove and Miller to come back. that's about our only hopes for any improvement. otherwise, this is it for the rest of the season. this is our level. Oldham had far more corners... 9 to 2. and more shots 17 to 11. 3 shots on target each.
don't often give marks but here goes..
Crellin 6. not much to do. 1 or 2 corners he could have claimed.
Brockbank 6. steady. <edit. need to review his part in 1st goal conceded. do remember now comm's saying partial blame. Santos. 6. gave ball away for their 1st goal. 1 good block. decent passing as usual. 1 big chance created for Crawford ( i think) Delaney 5.5 generally ok. one bad back header that gave away the Mcaleny chance were his lob over Crellin went onto the post
Kioso 7.5 assist for our goal. rest per comments above. Gordon 5 didn't notice him much
Sarce 5. gave ball away several times. 1 shot per stats but don't remember it. Comley 5 started off brighter than usual .the odd forward pass. by end... one shocking square ball intercepted. reverting to usual standard.
Delf 6. considering he scored and got another shot on target. rarely noticed otherwise. Crawford. 5 Davidm's said for a while..that he doesn't do much. always thought it was a bit harsh. but increasingly true. apart from set-pieces..offered little Doyle 5. felt sorry for him in past..lack of service. not today though. coming ridiculously deep & wide at times..even Comm's comment on it. awful touches...ball not sticking. couldn't trap the proverbial bag of cement ! i know it's not his forte. goal confidence drained away again.
was half-tempted to send in a tweet/text to say i was watching the game from Antarctica to improve the levels of entertainment on show.
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Post by davidm on Oct 17, 2020 16:41:26 GMT
And please get rid of that awful tinny superimposed crowd noise! It was horrible.
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