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Post by OohMac on Feb 2, 2018 7:58:21 GMT
I can't remember going into a match with so much uncertainty. A deadline day on Wednesday and match two days later. Especially when we've had a couple of weeks off? And especially when we've pinned so much of our game on hoofing it to the big player up top for him to do battle.
No doubt one training session yesterday is not going to be enough to stop the first thought to be a hopeful punt up and with Madine gone we will soon learn that this cannot go on.
If this fixture was before Jan I would have said Bristol City are on form side, taking confidence in beating Man Utd and giving city a good run of it too. I'd have little confidence in getting a win but might expect a draw.
Although Rome is never built in a day we do have a knack of seeing some good results almost instantly after a material change. Megson beating Man Utd and that Night in Munich, Freedman beating a confident Cardiff, Coyle too beat his old club and Lennon got an away win at Birmingham before producing one heck of a display to beat rivals Wigan. Whilst Parky is still in charge im just using that as an example that sometimes you can start again, tweak as system or personnel and the results can be (misleadingly) instant.
My only prediction is that if we start with will.bri.am up front(changing his image to appeal to the younger, snapchat market. Start with him as a like for like for Madine and we've got no chance.
Anything else. Formation, style, player selection is a great unknown at this stage and a bit of a headache trying to fit a lot of similar players in one or two positions.
A win though. What a kick start that would be.
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Post by one2many on Feb 2, 2018 8:03:32 GMT
It seems that Willbriaminho is off sick. That is a relief!!
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Post by wots on Feb 2, 2018 10:58:01 GMT
Sportinglife have got us down to take this one with odds at 11/4. Would you put the house on it?
It'll be interesting to see the lineup. It's on Skysports if anyone is asking.
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Post by whitesince63 on Feb 2, 2018 11:49:26 GMT
Off course we can win this but as usual it's for Parky to lose. Without Madine and Wilbraham we just have to play a different system and if Parky doesn't see that and just tries to patch it up, or stay the same to Alf or Walker, then he deserves to be fired without delay. The jury's out, I just don't know what to expect but sadly I really just don't have any confidence in Parkinson's ability to play any other way.
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Post by thegrud1 on Feb 2, 2018 12:09:00 GMT
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Post by OohMac on Feb 2, 2018 17:48:50 GMT
Never known such a doom and gloomer. Me and the boys had a stiff drink and a chat. "Right lads are we off then?"
Got an exciting young team there Parky and if you don't fancy it I'm sure someone else will.
Alnwick. Flanagan. Beavers. Burke. Little Robison Henry vela Ameobi Clough Le Fondre
Subs hall turner Charnley king walker wheater(if fit) Dervite if not
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Post by OohMac on Feb 2, 2018 19:42:11 GMT
Shocking team line up.
P45 ready for half time. 0-3.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 2, 2018 20:41:37 GMT
I’m sorry but Alnwick really is shit. COME OUT AND COMMAND YOUR AREA 38 minutes Waiting for his defenders to do his dirty work Walker looks useful
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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 2, 2018 21:54:49 GMT
WOW I never expected that!!! Get innnnn COYWM
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 22:13:05 GMT
Over the moon with the win backs to the wall defending against a very good team brilliant COYWM do it for the fans 🍺🍺🍺🍺
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Post by andyl on Feb 2, 2018 22:59:22 GMT
A baffling selection. Defenders a- plenty. But one master stroke- Ameobi down the middle with freedom to go to either wing. It's a bit odd to have four wingers and play none as wingers and in truth Little and Robinson both surged forward but crossed like full backs
I couldn't see why we needed Derik really but I suppose we shackled Bristol pretty well and they had little success in midfield. That they too were an aerial team helped us. We had one moment of excitement, a signature left foot shot from Ameobi. They came close after Dervite lost his man.
The second half began slowly and the quality of our passing began to let them dominate but apart from a very well saved header they went chanceless. Clough came on for Taylor and everything changed. He began to play with Ameobi and Vela and it made all the difference- we even strung a passing move together. All of a sudden Ameobi broke through the centre and a superb off the ball run by Clough took defenders away and Sammy hit it sweetly into the corner of the net
it got even better. Morais and Ameobi got through on the right. Morais found Clough who looked odds on to open his account but screwed his shot narrowly wide. Shame. But our best move of the game.
We actually managed the game out quite well with significant time spent up the field. Dervite still had time to risk all with a daft foule difference to but all in all despite barely passing a ball and an awful lot of lost possession we won reasonably comfortably
We don't actually need a big centre forward. Not that any proof should be needed but with Ameobi upfront and free to Roam we were a greater threat than in the Madine superhero mode and I think we could now escape?
Alnwick 6 Little 5 Wheater 6 Dervite 5 Beevers 6 Robinson 5 Vela 6 Derik 5 Henry 7 Walker 5 Ameobi 8 Clough 7
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Post by greydad on Feb 2, 2018 23:23:48 GMT
Ameobi and Clough look to have the potential to be a real threat to opposition defences, and as Andy has said the interplay between them and Morais in creating Clough's chance was as good as we've seen all season, such a pity that it wasn't converted. Clough's introduction was well judged, as was the subbing of Little for Morais, his cameo would suggest that he ought to be given more game time on the right, so well done P.P. for the changes made. Possession and composure are still seriously lacking in defence and midfield but tonight proved that we do have players who can be effective in running with the ball in the opposition half when given the ball to feet; hopefully both management and players will have a little more confidence in adapting to more of a passing game, whilst retaining the knack of keeping things tight at the back. Well done Whites, we might even see a few returning fans if things continue as they did in the last half hour.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 2, 2018 23:47:51 GMT
ALF must be gutted and be wondering how he’s going to get a starting spot after seeing Walker and Clough get in ahead of him, even worse when you don’t even get off the bench but I’m liking the healthy competition for places now. You’ll get your chance ALF, be patient lad, but you might have to wait until we play Nott’m Forest as they’ll both be unable to feature against their parent club!!! Mind you, whatever you’ve said or done to PP, he clearly doesn’t fancy you to start
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Post by Pedro on Feb 2, 2018 23:55:49 GMT
Fantastic win and magnificent team effort and we really looked like a team for a change. I for one am pleased to see the back of Madine and constant hoofs up to him. Tonight's game was far more exciting and unpredictable to watch. Interesting that the crowd were loud and behind the team right from the start because of the way we were playing.
Connor Hall or Earing or King would have nailed that superb cross from Morais at the end - that's how much better they are than any of the current team in the heading department - a joy to watch. They also have wingers and full backs who can cross as well as Morais.
Great performance to beat the fifth team in the table and make them look ordinary. Great to see us wanting the win so much more than Bristol and for the whole game. First 90+ minute performance of the season. Hope it has given Parky something to think about. If we can keep improving on that performance we should have no problem staying up as long as we fail in Parky's quest for a Madine replacement.
From BBC:
Possession Home35% Away65%
Shots Home11 Away14
Shots on Target Home4 Away3
Corners Home3 Away6
Fouls Home17 Away11
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Post by OohMac on Feb 3, 2018 9:23:36 GMT
I think Bristol City were superior when it came to passing the ball, and their team from right back to striker were comfortable on the ball. But for all that they created very little and on chances created cannot say they deserved much. I suppose 65-75% possession counts for nothing if a player can break away and drill one in from 30 yards! What we have, certainly on Sunderland, is a group of players who will throw everything at it. I suppose Parkys biggest success has been to install a great work ethic in the squad as a whole. No passengers.
As I said we won the game on a wonder goal that you can't always legislate for. As someone pointed out though it needed Cloughs run to open the defence and 95 times out of hundred a shot from that distance will be easily saved or high and wide. Lady Luck meant today it killed three worms on the way in. What a strike.
I'm not sure if the thinking behind the line up makes sense. It seemed to be pack them in tight and pick the tallest players we've got up front. Had we have started with Clough, ALF, Charnsley, Noone, buckely, etc might we have won the game still? Who knows.
Great win for us. Brings more back into the pack.
Negatives for me: Alnwick could have cost us the game with a blatant penalty. Distribution poor. Never looked comfortable. Though decent save from their only chance. Derick - pretty anonymous. Henry's passing for a midfielder was aimless and lucky not to have cost us with a 30 yard suicide ball. Positives which far outweigh the negative stuff- little and Robinson showing great energy(oh yeah stick poor crossing down for a negative. Powder puff chips in a la Feeney) the back three looked solid as a rock, Ameobi wonder goal but much more to his game, Cloughs back and looked a class above. Actually wanted the ball to feet, give and gos. And walker looked very promising too.
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