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Post by andyl on Jan 20, 2016 8:20:26 GMT
So where do we go for this game. Unfortunately the teamsheet is stuck to the wall and pinned through the names of Dervite and Feeney with pins that Neil cannot extract. But otherwise what should he do to cover Wheater's and Madine's absences.
I dare say Clough may return. He allegedly has a hip injury though I fancy that comes from hanging upside down in the cattle market with a for sale £2m sign skewered to said hip. But failing that will he trust Woolery.
It was pretty obvious v Eastleigh that Holding and Dervite are no sort of pairing in the middle. But if he recalls Prince for whom?
Should Amos return?
I presume Trotter will keep his place and Pratley will continue to be allowed to crash around in the china shop. But should Mark Davies keep his place? Or should Spearing or Danns return. Casado was our best performing player for a while. Should he return?
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jan 20, 2016 10:36:56 GMT
This will be the game to spell the end if we lose. I know it was only Eastleigh, but if we had any sort of winning mentality, we would go on to beat MK, we haven't and that comes from the tinker man and the crap array of talentless dross we have on display Bolton 1 MK Dons 1
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Post by one2many on Jan 20, 2016 11:46:00 GMT
another must win game. i am going to stick my neck out and say.....we won't win it. 3 wins all season, what a joke.
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Post by OohMac on Jan 20, 2016 15:02:24 GMT
I can only think that with Wheater out we need to play 3 in the middle park. A pairing of Holding and Prince with a sweeper because all of our defenders are too slow, flat footed or don't have the concentration levels and balls from the middle are so easy to spot and its led to a hell of a lot of goals against this season(last nights 2nd was perfect example)
But that is such a negative way to set up a team at home against the MK Dons. But if watching us under Big Sam taught us anything its that a 5-3-2 doesn't have to be defensive. At a time we had Mendy and Gardener bombing up and down the field we were outnumbering opponents in both halves. If we can use Vela and Moxey similarly we might be in luck.
Silva should take the Madine role. He's not a midfielder. If Lennon doesn't let him have "the free role" he will take it anyway. He doesn't help the full back at all so in a midfield he is wasted. Cannot pick him, however he does have something so I would stick him up front with Woolery or ideally Clough. Trotter has played his way in the team for a start and whilst Mark Davies is on the books I would pick him, Pratley would get the nod in the hope that his good goal fires him up again.
And of course I would stick Amos back in. He is a class keeper. He outshone Bogdan and Lonergan last season. We just need to DeLennonise him and he will be back. Maybe the sweeper system would give him more confidence and less to do. _______Amos ______Derick _____Prince__Holding Vela Moxey ______Trotter______
Davies/Spearing*_____Pratley ____Clough/Davies If not fit. _______Silva______
So if we don't have Clough, Davies plays the 10 and Spearing comes in midfield. If Clough is fit he gets the nod and Davies falls back.
If the sweeper was a bit redundant and we needed an extra body in the middle we could easily adapt it so Derick plays in the Campo role instead. Can alternate it throughout the match.
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Post by Trotter on Jan 20, 2016 19:21:11 GMT
I like the analogies Andy uses in the top post especially Clough being hung upside down, I only wish the league table was upside down and we all woke up in the morning thinking all this season was just a bad dream anyway we all know we all live in the real world were young footballers are not hung upside down but are pawns in the chess like business world of football were unfortunately it is our turn to have everything go against us which is fine as long as we know there is a future when after we come through the nightmare so I'm going for a
Bolton 1 - 0 MK Dons
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2016 8:50:11 GMT
If truth be told hand on heart I am losing interest with everything to do with B.W.F.C. we are being dragged further and further down each day. The lads at work keep saying why don't you follow another team but deep down I will always be a Wanderer so that said 2-1 win and an enjoyable Saturday for a change.
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Post by andyl on Jan 21, 2016 11:21:51 GMT
I don't necessarily like myself for saying or thinking this but just currently I think Mark Davies needs some criticism.Publicly saying he's staying,playing on Wed as if going through the motions - at least I thought so and the most expensive player on the books allegedly. His sale would pay many administrative staff salaries. He should play for nothing for a while if he wants to convince us of loyalty. I'd say club and fans have stuck with him well.
I really find it difficult watching Feeney but in terms of attitude ... he's well on the way to Player of the Season nominations (yes really!Who else ?) Happy birthday Liam!
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Post by andyl on Jan 21, 2016 11:28:06 GMT
Re Ooom's post yes we really need to try a sweeper . Or at least one behind the other . I really don't like the modern trend for wingers to do full backs jobs while they linger inside.
The other way might be to go to three at the back and screen them with five proper midfielders. Both Spearing and Danns could contribute. What we can't sustain is the two winger static forward approach so prone to conceding counter attacks with a defence and keeper who just aren't up to it
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2016 11:41:30 GMT
Re Ooom's post yes we really need to try a sweeper . Or at least one behind the other . I really don't like the modern trend for wingers to do full backs jobs while they linger inside. The other way might be to go to three at the back and screen them with five proper midfielders. Both Spearing and Danns could contribute. What we can't sustain is the two winger static forward approach so prone to conceding counter attacks with a defence and keeper who just aren't up to it Andy if we play three at the back devite must not be one of them ,to play three you need quick players and our three player of that order are all new boys , so for me its 5 at the back 3in mid field and two up front . amoss vela prince holding derik moxey davies trotter Pratley amiobe clough defence is the main thing here and hope for quick breaks or good set pieces , we start with a point don't end with less
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Post by modfishy on Jan 21, 2016 15:11:48 GMT
Already getting nervous about this game, although I'm taking solace from reading that they've got a lot of players out injured. I predicted win on Tuesday with Pratley scoring, don't think I'll go that far again this weekend....think it'll be a 2-1 with Ameobi on the score sheet. Everything crossed for this one already and it's only Thursday afternoon!!
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jan 23, 2016 15:11:11 GMT
Come on you Whites Now let's get another
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Post by Trotter on Jan 23, 2016 17:10:03 GMT
Happy days or day at least, well done the lads who must now have a higher level of confidence which is a massive element of footballers - coyw
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jan 23, 2016 17:21:18 GMT
A few more of them and who knows!!! Car park sold, staff paid, first win in yonks, just need a buyer for the club now and it'll be great to be a Wanderer COYWM
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Post by andyl on Jan 23, 2016 18:36:58 GMT
At last a win and what an exhilarating one. Again Neil had chosen the same team and we began tentatively looking vulnerable on the flanks and not the strongest in defence. They had the better of early possession. It all changed after a scintillating forward run by Holding. He earned a foul. The ball was chipped to Feeney who rounded his full back and floated a near perfect cross. Maxine put the keeper off. The ball fell to Holding and wallop1-0. Had we resigned Craig Dawson on the at? That's what it felt like with the best yet to come!
We continued to press. Madine got in a powerful header on target. Silva cut in and hit a goal bound shot which was narrowly deflected wide.
In the meantime they missed a sitter. Justice after all our headedmisses in the away game. (Dervite and Madine)
The big difference today lay in the form of Trotter. He had his best game yet breaking up attacks and hitting good passes. I can't remember him losing the ball. He punched one wide.Pratley ran on to it. A firm shot deflected upwards and beyond the keeper. Yeah 2-0 and playing really well
so would Neil stick or twist?What had he learnt? Now here I must confess that I was praying 'Stick!Stick! Take Silva off or Feeney.
How wrong was I?We built on Trotter's dominance which released Pratley to make lots of forward runs. Silva who had offered one party trick in the first half ran riot and was the height of entertainment. He overdid it once and was quietly encouraged by Neill. Well done Neil. He was to last much of the game and indeed his last act was a terrific piece of back-tackling.
The season's champagne moment came as Holding picked up the ball at left back sprinted away ran right through cut inside and fired a shot which the keeper palmed wide.Brilliant!!! And he offered a third run later. What a star. He won't stay at centre half. It was very noticeable how we for once were winning headers in midfield. Feeney had several runs. Madine for once ran tirelessly . He missed some good chances but was a real force. Mark Davies played a complementary and rather quiet role
the game had a final couple of twists. A counter attack resulted in a good save able shot which yet again Amos missed. He had made a couple of good saves to be fair but O dear. Nevertheless anothe raking through ball found departing Shola Ameobi who sliced inside and scored a decider much to everyone's relief
A great win. Two memorable individual performances from Holding and Trotter. Some matador isle skills from Silva.Ole! And returnsto form for Pratley Weaknessses? Vela was ok but flimsy at times. Spearing had a cameo of awfulness making a wild pass and giving away the goal or at least the chance to shoot. If Trotter could just have converted the second half interchange with Feeney I'd give him MoM but Holding must feature even if Trotter was the controlling influence and springboard for others. I do hope others of you clocked how good he was today?
Finally marks. Amos 6 Vela 5 Dervite 5 Holding 9 Moxey 6 Feeney 7 Pratley 8 (would be nine but for clumsy fouls in first half) Trotter 9 Davies 6 Silva 8 Madine 7 plus special mention for Ameobi. Ave atque vale 10- not MoM but a brilliant five minute sign off
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Post by davidm on Jan 23, 2016 18:54:22 GMT
Well, that’s what a game should be……ENTERTAINING!
A good performance throughout (possibly helped by a woeful opposition defence) but let’s give them credit. A good, hard-working, skilful game in which we competed for the complete match not just bits and pieces.
I was concerned at the start as I don’t like the shape of the team but today it came off.
Well played. We must keep this going for the next few weeks to get any semblance of hope.
Marks :-
Amos - 6 Not much to do. Came and missed a centre in first half and should have been beaten mid first half when their guy headed over from 10 yards out. I never like to concede form 25/30 yards out but I couldn’t tell if Amos should have got it. One good save in second half.
Vela - 6 Skinned a couple of times early in second half but a steady game. Would like to see him join with the attack a bit more.
Moxey - 6 As with Vela, skinned a couple of times but got forward well. Lovely pass to Ameobi at the death.
Holding - 9 MOM – very well played. First goal and also 2 surging runs out of defence. He also knew when to put the ball into touch at the right time and risked nothing.
Dervite - 7 I never thought that I would give Dervite a 7 ever again after recent weeks but give him credit. I thought he played well.
Feeney - 7 Again, another one who I do not rate but he played well today with some decent crosses.
Silva - 8 Scared the life out of opposition. Tends to showboat when he should pass but he entertained today.
Trotter - 7 Well played. Solid in centre midfield and got a couple of shots in.
Davies - 7 The 7 is for the second half as I thought it took him a while to get into the game. Should be dominating matches like this.
Pratley - 7 Another who I think did much better than recent. Too many clumsy fouls, as in every match, but he worked really hard.
Madine - 6 Left on his own up front, as usual, so struggled. Got some shots in but all straight at keeper.
Ameobi - 7 What a cracking goal. I thought he would head for the corner flag but excellent skill to create the chance and take it. Could he not just play for free from now on?
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