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Post by joanna on Jan 23, 2016 19:23:52 GMT
Much better today but I had to laugh at Trotter writing in the programme that his best attribute is "speed". He describes himself as: "calm, crazy, enigma."
So do we add "deluded" or "comedian"? In the words of Johnny Mac, "You cannot be serious, man"!
Anyway, if he and the rest of the squad continue to perform as today, we should be able to laugh with him rather than at him and his peers.
How to explain the sudden lift in performance, virtually across the board? Let's hope it wasn't due to MK Dons entirely and that we can maintain this standard against the better sides. Two wins in a row....and 6 goals scored! Yay!
Hope there isn't a random doping/drugs test to follow! Perhaps that's what Liam meant by "speed"!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 19:33:25 GMT
Just got home so pissed off I had us down to win 2-1 so what do we do win 3-1 how shit are we. Fuxking get in a win on Saturday lets get pissed cause I am going to lets get some more down our necks.
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Post by bonaparte on Jan 24, 2016 9:21:20 GMT
Andy, you must have had your rose tinted spectacles on to pick Trotter as MoM. I agree more with David , good all round performances, difficult to pick a MoM, choice between Holding or Silva for me. Holding won out. No boos today Joanna, we got an entertaining match with some drama. Lots to cheer about. The question remains why now at the end of January, when we are sitting rock bottom? Why not sooner? Andy will tell us Trotter made the difference, but all the team put good shifts in and worked hard for each other, something we have not seen too often this season.
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Post by andyl on Jan 24, 2016 10:10:31 GMT
I actually gave both Holding and Trotter 9 apiece. For a MoM I'd pick Holding. But I do think Trotter was the fulcrum of the team protecting defence, building forward momentum and holding the ball to buy time for others to run on most notably Pratley. That said it was clear that Neil had asked Pratley to get forward more and he was the better for it. I'd hoped TV highlights might show Trotter's steadying involvement for goal two but they began with the ball to and tackle on Davies. Another point I'd make is that Trotter was reading the game really well choosing sensibly between left and right and moving into good intercepting positions.
And as David picks up on Holding was playing really intelligently and keeping clearances simple. There will be games where he is roughed up and may not be so effective but the pairing of fast and slow centre halves really worked Whereas the pairing of two slow ones always left us vulnerable. Neil has been too slow this season to make changes that may help. In my opinion he is too slow with substitutes and could now be bringing Woolery and Twardzik into contention both of whom have something about them however I do think Neil pretty much got everything right yesterday and the players responded
There remain weaknesses. Vela did not play well yesterday and should have cut out the goal. Amos continues to cause concern. He should have saved the goal in my opinion and his distribution has gone the way of all recent BWFC keepers. Contrast Rachubka not yet assimilated who threw and passed the ball quickly to teammates on Tuesday. We face a difficult week. Everyone is for sale or loan. Players are being pimped out continuously. But we have a bit of hope. Current players are good enough to wing games in this league but can Neil organise and manage those who remain into solider away performances. Confidence is fragile. But it is nice for once to wake up in the rosy afterglow of an exhilarating victory. And yes Silva was the breathtaking trapeze artist who filled us with awe and wonder. Man of match Silva?Not for me. But a much better all round effort and he lasted further into the game than previously . I'd have loved to see Woolery on for him for 20 mins though.
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Post by joanna on Jan 24, 2016 11:05:41 GMT
Andy, you must have had your rose tinted spectacles on to pick Trotter as MoM. I agree more with David , good all round performances, difficult to pick a MoM, choice between Holding or Silva for me. Holding won out. No boos today Joanna, we got an entertaining match with some drama. Lots to cheer about. The question remains why now at the end of January, when we are sitting rock bottom? Why not sooner? Andy will tell us Trotter made the difference, but all the team put good shifts in and worked hard for each other, something we have not seen too often this season. Agree with all of that, Bonaparte. In this most difficult week, the spirit and ability have shone through, so looking to find fault and holding on to long-held prejudices are not called for today. Some of the most derided players did really well and deserve singling out for their efforts, especially Silva, Madine, Feeney, Pratley and even Dervite who does not get much mention above, but put in a brave, improved performance. Confidence is such a big issue in sport and it does no good at all for the "fans" to boo or jeer at the first opportunity. We'll only get of of this mess if the support and encouragement is whole-hearted from beginning to end, as Lennon's is. PS I know you don't like Madine, Andy, but there is no need to resort to giving him a girl's name and describing his great header that hit the bar, leading to the first goal in these terms: " Maxine put the keeper off." Talk about damning with faint praise! A visit to Specsavers (on 2 counts!) is recommended, sir.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 12:00:58 GMT
It is good to wake up on a Sunday after a very good win lets hope we can continue this bit of form who will be left next Saturday we will just have to wait and see long may it continue.
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Post by andyl on Jan 24, 2016 13:03:27 GMT
Firstly for Joanna I've corrected the predictive text error re Madine ' s name. I had experienced a worse text error in that post but happily edited it out just before Crewe on the train.
I agree re the upturn in performance especially of Pratley and Feeney yesterday. And Madine and Davies were both much improved from Tuesday. Dervite made errors which on another day could have led to goals for example a ball went between his legs and nearly unsighted Amos early on.
We fans deserve some good cheer Hope though is a dangerous platform for improvement. Despair though can be positive for the only way is up. Your question re why not earlier Bonaparte is to the point. I think we have been very well in many games but have either missed chances or conceded sloppy goals. Confidence makes a huge difference but so too do managerial judgment calls re who to pick,in what role and against whom.
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Post by OohMac on Jan 24, 2016 16:26:36 GMT
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(Though there may be a few more members after this form)
In all seriousness though Trotter is a bit of a revelation at the moment, which begs the question why couldn't Neil get this sort of performance from him three months ago and why did he ship him out at the earliest opportunity when we clearly needed someone like him in the middle of the park.
But anyway Reasons to be cheerful 1,2,3
1. A win in a relegation battle than brings MK Dons back into it.
2. Two back to back wins and 6 goals scored in 2 games.
3. Looks like we sold a car park(again, why was this not done earlier) and the vibe is that things are looking on the up.
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Post by westandlower on Jan 24, 2016 16:29:40 GMT
Was a good all round team performance. Easier to pick donkey of the match rather than man. Donkey would have to be Spearing mostly for that wayward pass when we had too many committed to attack in their half. Candidates for man include: Holden (who just got my vote) but also Trotter (best game in a white shirt yet) Silva and Feeney (incidently linked with Charlton today).
Would like to think that we would play as well next week but can't help thinking that Leeds will not be as inept as MK.
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Post by andyl on Jan 24, 2016 17:01:41 GMT
My argument of course has been that Neil should have picked him whatever fans perceived. He had turned out for U21 played well and was still left out for a week or two before Forest made their offer..and that itself is an indication of something?
I know he is irritating,looks lethargic etc but in my opinion we play better when he is in the team and in form.
Feeney for possible sale eh!
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Post by OohMac on Jan 24, 2016 17:34:27 GMT
I've always said that Trotter offered something more than what we had. Spearing, Medo, Danns and Vela pretty much were the same. Pratley was a faux 10 type and Trotter was a bit of a mix in the two. The closest thing we have to a box-to-box man.
I don't know if you'd describe our fans as fickle or forgiving but we're more than happy to wipe the slate clean and give the player a fresh start. Like Pratley who played himself into the team and is now captain. There is no reason at all that Trotter can't be a regular and even a future captain. If Darren leaves for Ipswich or anywhere else(and any bid for a player of his age and salary has to be accepted) then there aren't that many obvious choices.
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