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Post by andyl on Apr 14, 2015 7:29:16 GMT
very winnable ! No more added time goals,please!
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Post by one2many on Apr 14, 2015 9:21:07 GMT
Meaningless fixture, might as well experiment with fringe players. In this type of game, anything could happen from an eight goal thriller to a 0-0 bore draw. I'll go for 1-0 to us and the lowest attendence of the season.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 14, 2015 17:56:46 GMT
2-1 to the Trotters but I agree with andyl, he has to test the youth in this one. In fact, let David Lee pick the team from his kids
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 14, 2015 17:57:39 GMT
2-1 to the Trotters but I agree with andyl, he has to test the youth in this one. In fact, let David Lee pick the team from his kids Sorry Agree with onetoomany |
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Post by andyl on Apr 14, 2015 21:44:27 GMT
That was distressing. Right up to the last moment of significance when Feeney blazed a shot over the bar from close range with the goal gaping I could barely believe what I was watching. Full marks to the meagre crowd for somehow raising the energy to shout, sing, flash mobiles and inspire some sort of attacking effort. I think it brought us back to parity, that and Bannan's persistence allied to Le Fondre's ability to take a goal
The Lennon fruit machine appeared at first to have reverted to the tried and failed Le Fondre up front with two men wide. As it happened it was initially two men Walker and Feeney on the left quickly overtaken by Feeney playing up front alongside Le Fondre. Errr.
We we began woefully. First Dervite and then Mills failed to challenge for simple headers preferring to let balls bounce and be controlled by smaller opponents and this led directly to a cross , loss of midfield concentration an unmarked man and a shot fired through detached centre halves past a sluggish Bogdan. Too simple by half and an eerie silence. Walker had been duped at wing back before the cross and defensively had quite a torrid time thereafter
i don't want to be overly critical of Walker and Rochina because both sparked opportunities and have something about them. Rochina was trying too hard to be inventive but Walker swung in quite a few good crosses yet some poor ones too. Rochina kept giving the ball away rashly. He also looked to be struggling to make corners reach. It was a bit like the moment in Under 12 football when you know a keeper or corner take simply haven't yet the strength to succeed. So it was with Rochina. But all of this said both Rochina and Walker offer something going forward and both tried hard whilst on.
but for all that it was the more experienced Dervite, Danns and Feeney who were frankly awful throughout. They played with little tempo and urgency . Danns looks badly in need of a rest. Dervite surpassed even Mills in the awfulness of his long ball distribution and his defensive concentration was quite dreadful. I'm not sure he deserved a mark at all
I suppose we did fight back. Bogdan was rolling the ball out to defenders and midfielders well. Le Fondre was persistent. Vela clearly under restraining order kept to his patch but generally did the few things he could pretty well. Ream pushed forward well but of course had little option but to pass to Feeney most of the time with predictable outcomes. Mark Davies was introduced and showed with a few good passes and that trademark assist for what should have been a simple winner but for the fact it was Feeney who was assisted
Frustating end of season game. We can still be relegated but Millwall still have to win four more games and if Fulham beat Rotherham tomorrow then they Rotherham have to win all three remaining. It looks rather as though we will finish 19th or 20 i the league and we are ending the season little better than we started it. At least this time there were only 2 mins of added time for Eagles to score a winner. And he didn't.Phew
Bogdan 7 Dervite 1 Mills 4 Ream 6 Vela 6 Danns 3 Rochina 3 Feeney 3 Bannan 8 Walker 5 Le Fondre 7 Mark D 6 Emile 5
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Post by andyl on Apr 15, 2015 7:20:43 GMT
O dear! Have listened to NL post match' better team, played well, couldn't understand half time fan reaction' etc. Owen, Dougie, Neil.. Is it something in the water at the training ground?
What Ididn't say quite so directly above was that last night we witnessed some of the worst passing seen for years, Dervite launched balls to nowhere, Rochina routinely passed to them, Bannan was hit and miss. Danns hit almost no forward passes and still mishit a few . What were the stats. They must be awful. Perhaps we got on top in the second half but that was through fan power?
But however bad the passing was the shooting was a zillion times worse. What do they practise?Do they practise. I believe we had 20 plus shots with just two or three on target..and often these were from good shooting positions under modest pressure. Danns, Bannan arushed shots over the bar. Mills miskicked with an open goal so that wouldn't be in the 20plus and as for Feeney's final miss. I would think the half time plastic encased wobbly men would have done better. All he really had to do was side foot it in. He could have taken one or maybe two touches. It was awful awful awful!
Charlton were end of season neat and precise, missed very few passes and forced two or three smart saves from Bogdan. Again Stats? They had far fewer but I wouldn't be surprised if more were on target?
Roll on the summer. Neil said we are eleven clear of Millwall with superior goal difference and so safe. Er.. What if they win four hames Neil. Goal difference won't count in that! Yes we should be safe. Blackburn might finish Millwall off. And Rotherham are up against it too. But mathematically safe? Not yet!
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Post by bonaparte on Apr 15, 2015 9:32:34 GMT
Could not agree more. Passing terrible and shooting horrendous.
Cannot understand why Feeney is in the squad never mind in consideration for a team place, he is awful.
Cannot understand why Mills is being offered a new contract. He and Dervite are of the clear the lines chaps, not now my clearance is the start of an attack, where are my mid fielders? Of course with Heskey they can resort to lumping it up the field, he at least can direct a header or hold the ball up. Walker had a poor game, maybe he really does not have it, he couldn't beat his man, his corners were poor, looked Jaded. Vela tired and was rightly substituted, but too late.
One bright spot Davies, he had some nice touches and showed his class.
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Post by davidm on Apr 15, 2015 12:06:40 GMT
I was too disappointed (even despondent) last night to comment.
It was pretty poor throughout.
The first half was perhaps the worst first half this season - bit bothered by Mr Lennon’s comments on this.
I quite like the 3 at the back but we have no proper wing backs - Walker and Vela forsook their defensive duties and we were wide open. Our back 3 were awful (even Ream got beaten too many times). Mills spent his time berating his colleagues when he is as much at fault as they. He is not a leader and I’m hopeful re comments in this morning’s paper that Forest want to sign him. Please take him.
I believe that we have got a very good manager but he has me worried at the moment. If he thought that we dominated and deserved to win, he is so wrong. Charlton could have sewn the game up before we woke up.
An interesting and telling statistic for megsontilidie:- since Christmas we have played 11 home games and we have conceded first in 8 of them. We haven’t lost them all but there is something fundamentally wrong with these players if we need the opponents to score to wake us up.
Roll on the end of the season and let’s hope that somehow (I don’t know how as many are on long contracts) we get rid of the totally average players who currently represent us.
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Post by joanna on Apr 15, 2015 14:15:35 GMT
The most noticeable thing for me last night was that we had no physical presence whatsoever until Heskey came on. At this level, teams need a mix of pace and strength, and we are lacking in both respects. BSA knew that a variety of attacking approaches is important. Our next signings need to reflect this basic wisdom. Too many of our youngsters can't withstand challenges, and would need exceptional skill to compensate.
PS:I had to laugh when I saw the pipe-cleaners that are Wilkinson and Odelusi turn out for us not long ago:-I bet opposition defenders were licking their lips!
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Post by andyl on Apr 15, 2015 16:07:32 GMT
So does that make Rochina a chimney sweep 's apprentice? All of course true. Walker at least gives a bit of an account of himself aerially. No one else other than Emile can head the ball to anywhere. We sorely miss Wheater who if clumsy is at least strong and physically competitive
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 15, 2015 19:26:30 GMT
I spoke to a mate of mine last night who is a Bury fan and he was raving about how, big strong and competitive Eaves is. Now he may not be the best thing since sliced bread but is he really that bad that we couldn't have at least given him a chance to impress? Considering we have no money and few real forwards with any presence why not at least give him a try?
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Post by OohMac on Apr 16, 2015 18:12:29 GMT
All seems very laboured at the moment and like people have said the finishing is woeful at times. Lennon said we had 10 shots on target, we didn't they were mainly off target.
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