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Post by andyl on Mar 11, 2015 22:07:15 GMT
Very difficult to win with all the chopping and changing. Surely Bannan was helping possession. If 5 loanees a problem could he/should he have played Lonergan? It's odd this. When he came NL gave no opportunities to loanees now they're straight in? How many added time goals conceded is that now? This is all very Coylesque. Surely we can beat Millwall..Please! !
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Post by riochforthereebok on Mar 11, 2015 22:42:35 GMT
Beat Millwall? Sorry AndyL, but we need to be at least 3-0 up going into additional time added on at the end of the match to at least get a draw these days.... Shambolic
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Post by OohMac on Mar 11, 2015 22:54:35 GMT
Absolute rubbish now Lennon.
Can't remember the last time we picked up a point away from home How many games have we conceeced injury time goals away? What the hell happened to the games we played when we blitzed Cardiff/Wigan?
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Post by greydad on Mar 11, 2015 23:59:04 GMT
Not sure of the wisdom in leaving Bannan out. Coke is a stronger player, as evinced by one crunching tackle in particular... he showed lots of energy and over all had a decent debut. Bannan might just have complemented Coke better than Danns tonight, who was on his usual booking for much of the 2nd half, but was also his usual tireless self. Bannan would, of course,have had to be included at the expense of A.N.Other loanee. McCarthy was no nonsense, hardly missed a header, and acquitted himself well, but neither he nor any other of the massed ranks in the area for the 94th minute corner were anywhere near Rhodes when it really mattered. I'm not sure that C Davies' long lay off can excuse his lack of composure when he had the opportunity to put us ahead, he should have scored, no question. Amos did his bit, as has become the norm, and the performance as a whole was just about deserving of a draw , other than the defending of that corner. The defence coped pretty well for 93 minutes, Vela and Ream both played well, Mills ok but will talk himself into a sending off if he's not careful. We competed in midfield despite the all too familiar loss of possession, especially from Feeney and Jancko on the flanks, although they both showed some perseverance, the odd threat and decent cross. LeFondre showed some excellent touches, almost squeezing the ball past Steele (their MOTM) from a good Moxey cross, Heskey was his usual handful , some good lay-offs, but no goal threat. Moxey and Ream linked up well after the former's introduction, Davies added some pace and nuisance value, but his miss proved so costly. A decent away performance then, for 93 minutes, but yet another late let-down! An interesting point from Andy L re: Lonergan, or indeed the fit again Bogdan..Bannan was unlucky to be excluded tonight, and I would like to see him in midfield on Saturday. My definite outfield loanees would be Bannan, McCarthy, and Le Fondre, and Coke did his cause no harm tonight. It will be interesting to see N L's selection. I wouldn't describe the performance as a whole as shambolic, or absolute rubbish, but certainly whatever the merits of the team's efforts tonight the failure to see the game out is a damning indictment of the collective inability to defend at the death.
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Post by davidm on Mar 12, 2015 13:02:59 GMT
Just look at this picture of the goal. All 11 of our players are in the area. There are 5 Rovers players, 2 of whom are completely unmarked. Rhodes is standing inside the 6-yard box totally on his own. Who is Mills marking? What has happened to our defensive organisation?
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Post by OohMac on Mar 12, 2015 14:35:47 GMT
Picture says it all, last minute too. The bad thing is even if Lennon does the analysis and pinpoints the issues we've so little options its just a case of try not to do that again. I'm not a big Mills fan, I don't rate Dervite either and think Ream isn't a great centre back. Wheater is my preferred option but lacks pace. Its not looking great. Good centre backs have been very hard to find for us.
Sam probably got it right when he brought in some of the old guard Colin Hendry, etc to do the basics right. I can't think of anyone out there like that at the moment.
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Post by andyl on Mar 12, 2015 14:38:47 GMT
And who is the leader of that defence to yell and pull it together.
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Post by megsontilidie on Mar 12, 2015 14:39:08 GMT
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Post by whitesince63 on Mar 12, 2015 19:16:22 GMT
I wasn't the least bit surprised we lost it at the death it's becoming the norm. Sadly NL can only juggle one journeyman against another so poor is our squad. Hopefully we can stay up and have a big end of season clear out. Get all these loanees either signed or binned, preferably binned other than one or two. God players don't lose concentration like these do and sticking with this bunch just means another struggle next season. Of course it's all down to finance and getting our few, injured quality players back so if there's no cash then we're sunk. What happened to the foreign buy out??
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Post by OohMac on Mar 12, 2015 20:31:40 GMT
Hindsight is a great thing but this season is a write off and i'm wondering whether or not we should have cashed in on Chung Lee? At the time, with the injury he picked up I was ok with moving him on and bringing in a few new faces. Now I think i'm wrong and it would have been better to let him go on a free at the end. He may not have changed in terms of play offs but when we were playing well and winning games Lee was crucial.
The point is strengthened as well by the little money we got for him, reports £500,000 and the fact that the players Slavchev, etc haven't added to us at all. We're definitely lacking that flair midfielder who can open up a game.
I'm not even sure he's getting a game at Palace, I would say we could have asked to take him back on loan but we can only play 5 anyway.
You might think that i'm being simplistic and that the fault of the team couldn't have been patched up with one player. We have several injuries to key players but when I look at the teamsheets its definitely missing that va va voom factor that Lee brings.
Oh well, whats done is done. Got to move on.
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Post by megsontilidie on Mar 12, 2015 21:20:58 GMT
Hindsight is a great thing but this season is a write off and i'm wondering whether or not we should have cashed in on Chung Lee? At the time, with the injury he picked up I was ok with moving him on and bringing in a few new faces. Now I think i'm wrong and it would have been better to let him go on a free at the end. He may not have changed in terms of play offs but when we were playing well and winning games Lee was crucial. The point is strengthened as well by the little money we got for him, reports £500,000 and the fact that the players Slavchev, etc haven't added to us at all. We're definitely lacking that flair midfielder who can open up a game. I'm not even sure he's getting a game at Palace, I would say we could have asked to take him back on loan but we can only play 5 anyway. You might think that i'm being simplistic and that the fault of the team couldn't have been patched up with one player. We have several injuries to key players but when I look at the teamsheets its definitely missing that va va voom factor that Lee brings. Oh well, whats done is done. Got to move on. hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/03/09/sl-steve-parish-provides-injury-update-on-winger-chung-yong-lee/he's injured...still about 3 weeks before he's even training. we did bloody well to shift him in that state. 500K+ plus shifting his big PL wages. that certainly beats our usual strategy of getting sod all back. it's poor compared to what it could have been a few years ago. he's a polite and respectful lad ( not a trouble -maker) but i think he's been wanting to get out for the last 2 tfr's windows at least .
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Post by cadders on Mar 12, 2015 21:30:56 GMT
We were always a mistake away from losing last night, I thought McCarthy looked good considering he's not match fit and interestingly he was one of the few who came over to applaud the Wanderers fans at the end. The rest look gutted and so they should have been! I just can't see the point of Feeney though, hardly ever gets past the first man with corners, free kicks etc and is very wasteful
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Post by riochforthereebok on Mar 12, 2015 21:53:59 GMT
If you look at the teams doing the biz in the lowers leagues and add the odd fringe player from the Prem, there must be better talent on the scrap heap than the garbage we currently have at the ReeMac? Eddie has to spend next term and spend big, obviously within FFP, whatever that 5hit means!!! Let Lennon loose with the chequebook now and we might produce some quality to start next season. I want them points back that we gave away so cheaply V Forest, Watford, Reading, Blackburn etc etc
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Post by whitesince63 on Mar 12, 2015 23:00:35 GMT
I don't think Eddie has the money to spend rftr or maybe isn't prepared to given how much he's supplied so far. I'm sure the FFP restrictions are hampering us too but I have to agree that there must be better available than we've brought in so far. Hopefully NL will clear the decks this summer and with what resources he does have will bring in some quality. I think it has to be centred around youth though and also a couple of proper full backs which we've been missing all season, in fact longer than that. A strong defence would at least be a start, midfield and attack look ok if we get our wounded back and maybe sign ALF permanently.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Mar 13, 2015 20:56:47 GMT
Get The Juke back for next season on loan, if The Dingles stay up and put him up front with Clough and ALF, a 3 pronged attack, possibly take back the much improved Baptiste from the other Dingles, rid us of Bogdan to free up cash to improve our terrible defence, not saying Bogdan Is crap or anything, I'm just trying to help finance other moves and I think Lonners is slightly better. Sell Spearing to see if Pulis is willing to give us Dawson... I'm dreaming now aren't i? Is it me or is this forum website struggling for iPhone use? I can't seem to go back via the Bolton Wanderers tab like I used to!! Come on burndenpaddock and realtrottersforever, this is your forum remember, so please get it fixed
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