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Post by Trotter on Mar 1, 2015 6:48:43 GMT
Lonergan, Bogdan or Amos who will be wearing the No1 shirt come the first game of next season it seems to me our Leader Neil Lennon has some thinking to do here as all 3 will be out of contract at the end of the season Amos who is on £20k a week but will be free to sign looks a good bet to take for me but saying that all 3 are worthy of our No 1 shirt.
Thoughts please .........
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Post by greydad on Mar 1, 2015 10:38:30 GMT
I don't know whether or not 20K a week would be within the club's means, but I agree that he looks an excellent keeper...he and Bogdan are similar in stature, and the latter if fit would have been be my first choice ahead of Lonergan . All three look to have excellent shot-stopping attributes, but in terms of sheer physical presence Bogdan and Amos (bearing in mind any considerations regarding the latter are based on a couple of games as yet!) present more imposing figures. This may seem harsh on AL, and I fully appreciate the contribution he has made in helping Wanderers move out of the bottom 3, but I feel that on the occasions Bogdan has played this season he has looked a slightly more complete keeper, and one more likely to give added confidence to his back four. Financially of course, Bogdan may represent an avenue for acquiring some much needed revenue, although I would be disappointed to see him go.
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Post by andyl on Mar 1, 2015 13:09:42 GMT
I was really impressed by Amos yesterday. He has an air of confidence that belies his age and experience. He made a couple of saves yesterday to shots that have recently been defeating Lonergan. If we could secure him affordably for the long term it would signal ambition and progression.
We have seen Bogdan over a few years. He has patches of good and indifferent form and his concentration sometimes lapses. At his best he is our No1 currently. I think he is out of contract in the summer. If he will sign on again it would be good business even if he is sold during next season. If however he won't I think I'd use him as and when and let him go. He has talent and physique. At Liverpool he was immense. That Bogdan I'd love to keep and watch! But I doubt we can keep him and also that he can consistently be like that.
Lonergan has had some good games and made some excellent match winning or match saving stops But he is not good with his feet, has absolutely no presence when the ball is in the air and his judgment coming out or being in position to receive back passes is quite suspect. He sometimes falls backwards and tends to dive too early and horizontally leaving him vulnerable to rising shots and some low. He has peaked in his career and is quite inconsistent. He is a goodish back up keeper at championship level but no more-that is if we harbour serious ambitions of a good season. I think signing him on or not comes down to finance. I doubt he will have many suitors within the top two leagues? And none internationally? I'd be prepared to let him go!
there are two other options a) to invest in Fitzsimmons and Jaaskalainen junior? Or b)to acquire a good, experienced keeper to complement whichever of the current three we can secure and retain
Yesterday I was reminded of the early Jussi and he's been our best since Branagan , Felgate and McDonagh. If Amos is anywhere near as good as that he will be better than his immediate competitors today.
It's certainly a problem for NL re whom to select and whom to court!
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Post by greydad on Mar 1, 2015 13:35:07 GMT
I should have added the rider that Bogdan would of course need to renew his contract in summer in order to offer any opportunity for the club to capitalise on his market value.. I hope he does renew, but we will have to wait and see.
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Post by OohMac on Mar 1, 2015 17:53:32 GMT
Its all about the money really, not much in the three to be honest all good keepers. Under contract i'd say Bogdan is worth £2M+ the others(as good at they may be) are not worth that.
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Post by spanishjonny on Mar 1, 2015 20:35:13 GMT
I would try to keep Amos because he wants to prove something, Bogdan thinks he's too good for us, but it will come down to money so I think out of those 3 the only one we can afford is Lonergan
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Post by andyl on Mar 2, 2015 18:26:48 GMT
It seems we've signed Amos for an extra month- though I'm not sure which month! Bogdan, it is no secret really, has made it clear that he won't sign again-or at least this was the case,apparently a few weeks ago- whether injury has given pause to his ambition remains to be seen. You may well be right, Spanishjonny!
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Post by greydad on Mar 3, 2015 12:24:24 GMT
I'm not sure that Bogdan thinks he is too good for us, perhaps more that he considers himself too good to be on the bench other than when selected for cup games. I can't imagine he would be inclined to sign a new contract unless he felt he would be first choice keeper, and his performances against Wigan and Liverpool at Anfield underlined, in my opinion, that he is our best keeper....I do not include Amos in this assessment as he is on loan.
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Post by andyl on Mar 4, 2015 12:37:11 GMT
I think Bogdan has given hus good service over a number of years and three managers. If like Chungy he and his advisors feel he should move on I for one would be a hypocrite for myself personally and also advising others to move their careers on after 2-4 years at that point . It doesn't always pay/ lead to improvement to stay put much as in this context we may admire the few one club professional footballers
Bogdan does not think he's too good, I'd hazard. He's more likely to feel the opposite - he can't get in the team! Our best chance of keeping him is his earliest restoration and a run of success. Much as Chungy I understand that on a personal level he really likes being at Bolton
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Post by Trotter on Mar 13, 2015 20:36:49 GMT
Amos must be favourite now Neil has backed him to start against Millwall tomorrow
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Post by andyl on Mar 13, 2015 21:05:05 GMT
Yes and Bogdan played for U21s tonight. Will Lonergan be omitted altogether at Ipswich???
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Post by andyl on Mar 13, 2015 21:20:10 GMT
I could be proved wrong re this surmise but I'm beginning to think NL is considering letting both Bogdan (no choice) and Lonergan leave and looking to secure Amos plus another
One mystery re Lonergan is how he came to get injured at Notts Forest when there was next to no discernible contact. At the time I thought he was playing possum to avoid dismissal. Perhaps he was just unlucky and felled by minimal contact on say the temple. I just hope he hasn't been unnerved by this experience on top of a near collapse of his form and luck. It's clear that NL prefers Amos at the moment. Whether that remains the case time will tell.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 22:59:08 GMT
Anyone who can keep the ball out of the net the most gets my vote  |
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