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Post by andyl on Feb 27, 2015 14:20:25 GMT
So what next? Very difficult to predict an NL team but am guessing something like
Amos, Vela, Wheater, Mills, Ream, Danns, Bannan, Feeney, Eidur ( or maybe Janko), Heskey, Le Fondre?
Any advance?
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Post by greydad on Feb 27, 2015 15:10:38 GMT
Your selection looks to be about right, I would imagine...it's a toss-up for me between Clough and ALF for a starting place alongside Heskey, but either should benefit from his knock-downs if Tuesday is anything to go by. Amos ought to be very confident after his debut display , perhaps Eider could be best employed as a sub, giving Janko and Vela another opportunity to develop the partnership that proved so effective against Fulham. Whoever starts there should be positive attacking options available on the bench should they be required.
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Post by OohMac on Feb 27, 2015 23:20:08 GMT
Very important game. Not a must win, but a win would be a catalyst and I think mean that survival will be a certainty(probably) a loss or draw isn't the end of the world (it may feel like it at 5pm) but it will be a long end of season.
Think Neil sees home matches and away matches differently. I think he'll go Amos, Vela, Wheater, Mills, Ream(if all fit), Danns, Bannan, Feeney, Clough, Gudjohnson and Le Fondre.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 11:18:19 GMT
This could be a nice return to winning ways at home so to that end 2-0 with ALF getting them both fingers crossed.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 28, 2015 14:02:13 GMT
First thought that came into my head..... Bore draw And goal'less as well But I'm still backing NL COYWM
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 17:03:38 GMT
1-0 thank god for that 9 points from the drop 3 more on Tuesday would be nice
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Post by megsontilidie on Feb 28, 2015 17:06:38 GMT
phew..that was a nervy one. vital 3 pt's. all about the result. was never gonna be pretty. felt we needed 2 to seal it, but got a bonus clean sheet. Amos probably man of match..1 or 2 very handy saves. although we protected him better with him only facing 4 shotsOT...much better than Forest & Watford games when the keeper was facing double digit shots on target. Wheater very good again..1 or 2 vital blocks. and the little diamond that is Zach Clough gets another. i did say we wanted to see him against bottom half sides . not his best game but it's all about producing in key moments. nice to see Mcnaughton back in the fold. did well when he came on. i was gonna comment midweek on that one, i.e was it just a case of KM letting his head drop cos NL not giving him a chance due to loan restrictions, which is understandable. good to see NL doesn't hold grudges unlike someone we could mention.
17th in the table now with 40 pts looks a lot more healthy and some precious confidence back in the lads veins, in terms of the the win and the clean sheet.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 28, 2015 17:17:11 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised if teams drop out on 45 points in this league. Great 'gritty' win today for the lads. All anout the points not the performances at this stage of the season I say I was nearly there with my prediction of a goalless draw COYWM..
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Post by andyl on Feb 28, 2015 18:10:33 GMT
Very tense at the end! We won because Zach Clough conjured an amazing angled shot after a beautifully balanced pirouette as he ran on to Vela's through ball.
It it was a battle which we had to win. NL professes a wish to be on the front foot and his selection underlined this. But we always looked short in midfield and Clough, Heskey and Le Fondre saw little of the ball. I would imagine that we were on the wrong side of the possession statistics.It certainly felt like it in the second half.
i was impressed by Amos. He was quick off his line and made three very good saves. The first was identical to Pringle's early goal at Rotherham. But Amos got the angles right on his near post and dived up to claw it away. I like his kicking power although he spurned some roll outs. He reminded me of Jussi in some ways but the air of confidence was infectious. He held on to a strong goal bound shot of the type Lonergan has been parrying. All in all he reminded us of what good all round keepers bring to the whole team.
And in front of him Wheater was powerful, committed and strong. I think he would be my MoM for the blocks made and character . But between him and Amos
NL had a strange game. His switch of Vela to midfield was decisive and Vela took us up the pitch three or four times. Bannen was lightweight but neat. I thought Danns had another poor game bereft of Pratley. He kept at it but got caught more than once. Maybe if he had hit our one first half chance better he'd have gained in confidence. But he looks clapped out ?
Feeney had a quite dreadful game. He would not take his man on, kept dithering in midfield and his crossing and dead ball kicking was dreadfully inconsistent. His half time reward was to be moved to wing back / full back. What was NL thinking? Fortunately he got injured yet even in that he accrued three minutes of added time we didn't need. NL was forced to resort to MacNaughton, he who is unfit to play and can't train effectively. Well surprise! He was better than Feeney. Obviously rust he rushed a couple of clearances but he also crossed the field to mop up a left back gap and most importantly plugged the chasm of opportunity they were readily mining around Feeney. Towards the end NL did take Heskey and Danns offoand brought Moxey and Eidur on, too late perhaps but we got away with it. Janko was a possible earlier sub but resisted by NL. Not sure why
there weren't many chances at either end. They perhaps looked the likelier scorers yet we held them out well. Eidur brought a bit of experience to the party. We made no last minute gaffes and earned the nine point cushion. There will be better days but this was a well battled scrap and we came through. Maybe being on the front foot helped. In the end Clough made the victory
Amos 9 Vela 7 Wheater 9 Mills 6 Ream 7 Danns 4 Bannan 6 Feeney 2 Clough 7 Le Fondre 5 Heskey 5 MacNaughton 6 Eidur 6
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Post by megsontilidie on Feb 28, 2015 19:47:04 GMT
agree with all of that Andy. it is ironic that the position we seem lightest in, is midfield considering the over-stocked position DF left us with. even with the raft of injuries we seemed to have a reasonable bench.. up front with Eidur , and Dervite, KM & Moxey as defenders. i'm getting confused by Janko's best role ..is he a right wing back, right back or right mid ? 3 strikers seemed a bit overkill when we only had 2 midfielders and the fwd's weren't getting much of the ball, against a Brighton side who can keep it well . ideally you'd want 3 in m/f..but who ??. maybe a 442 diamond formation would help. Clough at head of diamond...m/f 3 with Danns at base, Bannan left, & Janko right side . then again if Mcnaughton can fill rb ok, then Vela can step into mf, and keep Janko as a sub when KM tires.
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Post by greydad on Feb 28, 2015 22:52:03 GMT
A bold selection, justified ultimately by the result. It was a hard won victory, and as has been highlighted by Andy L one which was founded on the performances of Amos and Wheater in particular. Mills was solid, Ream was defensively sound but his game was once again enhanced by his consistent ability to find a man with his passes.....it would be interesting to see him in midfield later in the season when/if our Championship security is established. Danns and Feeney continue to exasperate, energy is not enough when possession is routinely wasted, but both have earned some latitude since N L's arrival, although for how much longer if they continue to be ineffective ? In defence Vela was solid on the whole, but flourished when he got to grips with his midfield responsibilities and made a few surging runs, one of which fed Clough for his sublimely executed finish. Bannan is unarguably lightweight, but his mobility and tenacity are much needed in midfield and with better support than that offered today his creativity might well be more effective. McNaughton did enough for me to warrant his inclusion in the squad, perhaps a starting role on Tuesday will allow Vela to continue where he left off today. Le Fondre and Heskey worked manfully, and although as a front 3 they and Clough did not create many opportunities the latter's ability to run with the ball and his eye for goal should ensure him a starting role on Tuesday. 3 very valuable points gained today, a few more hard fought 1-0 wins will not go amiss if that's what it takes, and the clean sheet should be an enormous confidence booster..well done Whites!
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Post by Pedro on Mar 1, 2015 18:00:27 GMT
Clean sheet has to be the main plus of yesterday's game after a litany of poor defending. Sublime goal from what looked like an impossible position! Optimism returns. Bring on Reading! www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKSgcPCM08UFrom BBC: 45% 55% Shots 13 13 On target 4 4 Corners 5 10 Fouls 6 11
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Post by OohMac on Mar 1, 2015 18:29:43 GMT
Not great and we probably didn't deserve a win. Draw would have been fair but we played one great pass and one shot and scored from it. That win, with Millwalls loss, will see us safe. Lets try now and get top ten. Who said Vela should be allowed to leave on a free a few weeks ago?
Amos 9, Vela 8, Mills 7, Wheater 7, Ream 6, Danns 4, Bannan 5, Feeney 5, Clough 8, Heskey 5, Le Fondre 6.
Think ALF played a an understudy for Heskey,he was non existent when he went off he upped his game and played a great part. Danns was, and is, not a defensive midfielder another poor game. His main attribute is to break up play through clumsy fouls. Once yellow carded he needs to be subbed. Bannaan again not defensive.
Feeney very poor. A winger that can't cross a ball, says it all(poet) We're missing Clayton if we had as much on the the left as Feeney has on the right we would be winning games with a 3 goal margin.
Lennon: 6 got the defence sorted but was poor. His signings didn't play/make a difference.
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