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Post by davidm on Apr 23, 2014 9:09:15 GMT
I was more impressed with Leicester than at the KingPower. They swamp midfield and move wide delightfully. They have turned out to be worthy champions and credit to them. BUT despite modest possession we had a good strategy against them- far better than in the previous game. We had some splendid breakaways and could , perhaps should have won 4-1. For all their possession they only had one chance when we went to sleep after missing one of our own, left a man alone and onside and enabled him to go on two on one with Mills to release Dyer for a really good winner. I can't make up my mind whether it's fair to criticise Jutkiewicz overly because he part fashioned two of the three great chances he squandered with poor finishing. And much the same goes for Beckford who was bright and lively when he came on thumping a fierce shot just wide and high but then tapping a glorious chance tamely to Schmeichel after doing all the hard work to be in position. If these two had been able to finish we would have won outright. The bottom line though with Jutkiewicz is that he is badly unfit. Every burst of action left him hands on knees or prostrate and his strength lacked at the vital moments. Prior to the match it had been reported that DF was not going to use his young players except maybe loanee Robinson, so par for DF I guess we had to expect him to field several but not Robinson. Why does he do it? We set up with three centre backs and White and Ream as wing backs. I think it worked pretty well. We had a couple of flank scares but had the width to offset Leics. Bogdan was in dominant form and with quick releases usually to the thoughtful Trotter we also began to have some good breakaways. Hall was inventive and quite penetrative. To have played with two up top against them would have been disastrous. As it was they seemed to have six or seven in midfield But Trotter and especially Spearing were playing well and competing. In the second half the game opened up. DF had withdrawn White at half time and this paved the way for Dyer to be brought on against the known Mills. I wonder if DF had left well alone for twenty more minutes whether we would have maintained the 0-0. But anyway it opened out for us too. Chungy who had struggled to keep possession early on broke through, tricked his way past two men and pulled the ball back to Jutkiewicz's left foot. He pulled his shot wide. It was a crucial miss yet not the last Trotter faded from view in the second half as did Hall who gave way fro Kellett and after another strange choice by Chungy volleying from a wide angle he was hooked for Lester So how did White, Kellett and Lester play? Quite encouragingly I think. White looked a bit lost at times but was well protected by the three centre halves. He had a brief to go forward but wasn't trusted with enough passes. He all but burst through once only to have Jutkiewicz assert seniority to no good effect. Kellett was the most impressive. He was tricky, energetic and skilful. Again Ream several times ignored the pass to him. But he did well and his efforts led to a couple of half chances. Lester had less opportunity but was eager and quick. They brought a welcome energy to things and helped to keep us in the game. So ( at last!!) credit to DF for giving them a go and also for helping to make the game one of the more interesting we have seen this year. We could well have won it. With Mason on board I think we would have I just wonder if He'd gone the whole hog and brought A young striker on before Beckford whether we might have got the goal Bogdan 9. ( excellent in every way) White 5 Mills 7 Knight 6 Wheater 7 Ream 6 Trotter 6 CYL 6 Hall 6 Jutkiewicz 5 ( can't get a good mark missing three fantastic chances) Beckford 5 ( ditto) Kellett 7. Lester 5 Andy, in our meetings at away games and on these forums, I have agreed with you on many things but we are so far apart on our judgment on last night’s match. Why do we play negative counter-attacking football at home? I know that Leicester are the best team in the league but to concede possession and more or less give the game to them in the first half was criminal. Football is an entertainment and the first half last night was embarrassing. Yes, eventually, we should have scored in the second half but Leicester should have buried us well before then. I can’t agree that the wing back system worked pretty well. Ream never got forward. White did but no one passed to him. Three centre halves did nothing for us defensively. It wasn’t good defending that kept the score at 0-0 in the first half. It was luck and Leicester’s desire to walk the ball into the net. I can’t see me ever agreeing with you about the” thoughtful” Trotter. He never moved past the half way line. There was a huge gap between our front 3 and the back 8 that Leicester just filled and therefore dominated the game. You class it as one of the more interesting games – well to me it was embarrassing. We conceded the opponents possession at home.
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Post by Pedro on Apr 23, 2014 9:13:14 GMT
Great report Andy. That's the game I saw and we kept saying to each other that should be 2.1, 3.1, 4.1 as each gilt edged chance was missed by the Juke and Beckford. Our defence can be proud for limiting them to just one equivalent chance. What a joy to see Bogdan do what we have all been calling for him to do. Run out,leap high and catch the ******g ball - so easy for him due to his height!!
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Post by andyl on Apr 23, 2014 9:51:41 GMT
We can all see things differently! Sorry to omit Spearing. For me as Bonaparte he was MoM but only 7 out of 10 because he missed some passes. In common with Bogdan he played better when Trotter was involved essentially in the first half. I know that the 5 at the back was defensive but it reflected the width with which they attack. Had we needed a point for safety it would have been madness to break it up at half time. With nothing to play for then fine.
Yes. White was left for dead and was making everyone nervous. But he did warm to task and the neat back header away at the far post was good. He went forward well. Is he better than Baptiste? Yes. He was quick enough to deter . For me Ream was the dodgier in defence. He kept coming too central for a left footer and ball watched horribly. As for his square pass into the D enough said. We had enough men to compensate just.! I don't think Ream is a good enough full back on that showing and he didn't get forward enough for the formation which was a major reason for the infrequency of our attacks.
I was very happy for DF to experiment and give the likes of White and Kellett a go. How will they ever step up without experience? It's a major criticism of DF that he hasn't been brave enough to try a few ten minute baptisms earlier We have all said so? Why are we not acknowledging the good aspect of this more?
David, if you see a replay of the Bogdan' 'Squirm save' it's the same one I thought to be his best. I wonder if I would if I saw it again. To my eye in the N Upper it took a vicious swerve and his late adjustment was commendable especially as he got it wide and out of danger.
Bonaparte I can see your criticisms of defence. Knight in particular was inconsistent but I thought Mills and Wheater got the job done well.Nugent was alert for their goal but I didn't see him get a chance.
We could have won that if Jutkiewicz was fitter- the main reason he missed his chances was the sharpness lacking after a run. It was noticeable that he needed treatment or time out after his major contributions. Can they get him fit enough to buy??
On the plus side Stu Holden looked remarkably OK before the game and what an inspiration he could be- even to see him shake hands with Pedro last night before the game. Was warming! With his class we would be transformed. If only !
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Post by realtrottersforever on Apr 23, 2014 15:31:15 GMT
From the Guardian an unbiased view of the proceedings (short and not so sweet) www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/22/leicester-city-win-championship-reading-middlesbroughand from the comments below the article KevinDavies14 23 April 2014 12:06am Pathetic performance from Bolton but well done Leicester. Burnley and Leicester both shown that you don't have to have the most ex-Prem players on megabucks to get promoted. Simply appoint an experienced manager who can organise and prepare a side and keep them relatively settled. Everything that our glorious manager can't do. Freedman out. A man after my own heart.
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Post by wotsupnow on Apr 23, 2014 15:45:59 GMT
From the Guardian an unbiased view of the proceedings (short and not so sweet) www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/22/leicester-city-win-championship-reading-middlesbroughand from the comments below the article KevinDavies14 23 April 2014 12:06am Pathetic performance from Bolton but well done Leicester. Burnley and Leicester both shown that you don't have to have the most ex-Prem players on megabucks to get promoted. Simply appoint an experienced manager who can organise and prepare a side and keep them relatively settled. Everything that our glorious manager can't do. Freedman out. A man after my own heart. Not only that rtf. At the start of the season, they sold a young Charlie Austin to QPR at the start of the 2013 season... Burnley stats PL 82 Goals 41 Could you ever see us doing that and still getting automatic promotion...
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Post by socalwanderers on Apr 23, 2014 16:31:21 GMT
Wots, Have you see the latest comments coming from our leader DF??
SELL, SELL, SELL is now the future of BWFC!!!
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Post by realtrottersforever on Apr 23, 2014 17:29:09 GMT
We haven't got anyone to sell that would make that much difference to be honest. But Charlie Austin was certainly their star player at the time they sold him, but they have discovered two more to replace him can you see DF doing that WUN.
Yes he blooded a couple of youngsters last night, but one who he said back in January 2013 we would be seeing in the 1st team (Zac Clough), he hasn't even managed to find a place on the bench for.
The guy is a loser. He talks about instilling a winning mentality into the players, but he hasn't got it himself, if we did, we wouldn't be continually playing this dull, boring, soul destroying counter attacking football, regardless of who the opposition is and regardless of whether we are at home or away.
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Post by socalwanderers on Apr 23, 2014 19:04:04 GMT
Well said rtf "say what you see!!"
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Post by BWFCTILIDIE on Apr 23, 2014 19:05:05 GMT
IPHONE
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Post by beenheresince53 on Apr 23, 2014 19:13:26 GMT
Last night was the first time I've seen Trotter I can't for the life of me see what Freedman can see in him he really is a poor mans Yaya Toure' his positional sense is terrible although he does a lot of pointing showing us supporters he knows were he should be expecting fitter team mates to cover for him, for every decent pass he makes several bad ones,he's not for me. It's been mentioned above but we really did have 4 very good chances to score not half chances but serious attempts that should have been taken.On a positive note I thought Bogdan has improved since his spell out of the side he seemed a little more positive and it was good to see some of the youngsters getting a run out. I was sat close to Stuart Holden and asked him at half time how his leg was he replied saying it was getting there and he felt ok, fingers crossed.
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Post by Spanish Jonny on Apr 23, 2014 20:55:55 GMT
Last night Dougie 'Mourinho' followed Chelsea's lead and started with 3 centre backs and wing backs, he must have thought this up about an hour before kick off because Spearing spent the first half arguing with the bench and his own players, as to where every body should be playing.
Reminiscent off the Blackpool home game last season when he played Hall in a position he'd never played before in a formation the team had never played before, he gave a home debut start to Hayden White but played him in a position he'd never played before in a formation the team had never played before. Masterstroke!
After 15 mins. it was obvious he would have to change it, but he didn't have a right back on the bench to go 4-4-2, so Mills drew the short straw and was stuck out at right back, this eventually cost us the game when Nugent and Dyer toasted him.
Leicester were neat and skillfull and had a lot off possession, but were beatable
Juke and Beckford had great chances to score and IMO were unlucky
AndyL, in your last couple of match report's you've criticised Juke's fitness, you must be watching a different player to me, I have not got the stats for last night's match but I bet he covered the most distance on our team, he came back for corner's and cleared most of them, one he looked like clearing but missed, resulted in the ball coming on to Knight in a bad place and he could only head down into the ground and it bounced over. He was then expected to leg it up field to try and win the header from Bogdans kick, he outran their centre half's from the half way line to create the good chance he just rolled wide, near the end of the game he ran back 25 yards to try and tackle one of their midfield players, injuring his knee in the process. Trotter must cover the least distance If we had started this game with a proper 4-4-2 I think we would have won
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Post by BurndenPaddock on Apr 23, 2014 21:21:12 GMT
Good to see you on the forum Spanish... why dont you register and stick around BP
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Post by Spanish Jonny on Apr 23, 2014 21:35:23 GMT
My current avatar is too much off a likeness!
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Post by realtrottersforever on Apr 23, 2014 21:58:54 GMT
AndyL, in your last couple of match report's you've criticised Juke's fitness, you must be watching a different player to me, I have not got the stats for last night's match but I bet he covered the most distance on our team, he came back for corner's and cleared most of them, one he looked like clearing but missed, resulted in the ball coming on to Knight in a bad place and he could only head down into the ground and it bounced over. He was then expected to leg it up field to try and win the header from Bogdans kick, he outran their centre half's from the half way line to create the good chance he just rolled wide, near the end of the game he ran back 25 yards to try and tackle one of their midfield players, injuring his knee in the process. Trotter must cover the least distance If we had started this game with a proper 4-4-2 I think we would have won He certainly ran himself into the ground SJ. If he isn't fit by now having played every game (I think) since we signed him on loan, what are they doing in the training sessions?
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Post by megsontilidie on Dec 4, 2014 12:53:24 GMT
Sorry TW I thought Freedman was responsible for picking the side but silly me I shouldn't have included him in hoping for a change. Whatever, I should think it's pretty obvious now that I just can't stand the guy and the damage he's doing to my club. Clearly you don't see it but each to their own eh? We do know!!!! You mention it in every comment you post.... Freedman is not doing any damage to the club, Freedman is managing what he's got. The huge debt is probably a problem, Phil Gartside too, even Eddie Davies. However, you can't see past your irrational fear of Freedman, and have forgotten that Megson started the rot, and Coyle totally destroyed the team. Freedman is picking up the pieces to years of mismanagement. Still, you think Freedman is the one damaging the club.oh dear. i never really know if this poster is on a wind up, or actually beleives what they're saying. either way, it should get exposed to maximum effect.
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