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Post by realtrottersforever on Feb 6, 2015 15:03:53 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31070588great preview by the beeb. NOT !! Janko out with ankle problem. ..he's ineligible isn't he. and "Twardzik and Simeon Slavchev are also set to return to the midfield" how can you return when you've never been !!??. almost as clueless as the formation showed for the cup replay...Ream at right back it was a hard one to figure and few would have guessed Mills up front, but Ream was never playing r/b IMO. anyway back to the game. tough one. if you play too much of same team you get fatigue at Rotherham type levels but if you mix it up too much with newbies, it becomes as disjointed as a DF mega-rotation selection. no Danns or Pratley probably means we have to suffer Trotter. Derby are a good side, so i see a 2-1 loss.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 6, 2015 17:05:43 GMT
1 nil to us Twardzick!!!!! What? ? I can hope can't i?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2015 18:53:49 GMT
As sad as it may be I think it will be a loss 2-1 but would take 1-1
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Post by andyl on Feb 6, 2015 20:41:03 GMT
Very likely that he will go with Ream in midfield to take the place of Danns. After Trotter's disastrous cameo on Wed I doubt if NL will pick him. He's more likely to think of him coming on for Clough late in the game and perhaps having the positive effect he did at Rotherham
I think we'll see Bannen in a Chungy role and that he will start with the promising pairing of Clough and Le Fondre up front. Derby are good but they won't launch it forward likke Rotherham did much to the embarrassment of our non heading Mills and Dervite. This may all so suit Lonergan who was very hesitant under Rotherham's artillery Fire
It will be surprising if we see other new signings start. NL is not like DF who said he would do one thing before invariably doing another. He clearly rates Twardzik so just maybe he'll be on the bench
I've never been to Pride Park aka IPro . I really liked Rotherham's stadium but the game was awful. Here I'd prefer to be less impressed by the arena and to sneak a victory. We just could but we do need to be up to fight it out against one of the best two or three teams ion the division
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Post by socalwanderers on Feb 7, 2015 2:54:59 GMT
Well let's see if NL's reinforcements can lift our spirits after the cup loss!!
Being cup tied would like to see the newbies breath new life into our campaign!
Bolton Win 2-1
COYWM
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Post by andyl on Feb 7, 2015 13:54:49 GMT
In the ground. It's v peaceful.No fans here yet. I can sit down!We haven't conceded a goal and can't until 15.01. So black despair absent. Hope is a good companion in this eyrie. Think Liverpool not Rotherham I tell myself. Is NL saying the same?
Some new blood to see? There are 128 stewards and now 3 BWFC in our numbered seats.
Team soon. Has NL got a surprise in store?
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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 7, 2015 15:51:36 GMT
Ah well... Champions V Wannabe's Liam Trotter? ?
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Post by socalwanderers on Feb 7, 2015 16:29:35 GMT
WOW! 4-1 now and still time to play!
Where did it go wrong?
Q). For the fans that went....... Jeckell & Hyde performance? Or was Derby just to good?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2015 16:32:55 GMT
Cant work this out 4-1 what the fxck is going on have we given up?
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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 7, 2015 17:05:16 GMT
Made worse by Freedmans win with Stuart Prarce's side Still time to take them down eh Doug
Good positives for BWFC with a goal for Twardzik and I suppose it's worth noting that the defence is pretty much all Freedmans, so it's fair to say that NL has done his best trying to make Bentleys out of Hyundai's
Onwards and upwards Trotters
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2015 17:19:58 GMT
Talk of trotter what the fxck does he give to our team. 8 goals against in 2 away games how on earth can we sort that out?. We have to say our season is at an end now for the top half of the table so we might as well just try a few things out for the rest of the season and just finish as high as we can were that will be I have no idea.
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Post by andyl on Feb 7, 2015 17:27:13 GMT
Lennon out I hear them say. Perhaps not yet Dougie would have been censored for this. For 30 mins we played neatly and we'll .Bannon looked good and his deft touches impressed. Going forward we looked neat and incisive albeit lacking an SKD figure to intimidate.
Of course NL'S good run was centred on Chungy, Pratley Danns and all were absent. And we looked an immature team shorn of height and presence against the likely champions
Ream was struggling with Ince even before Trotter ' s booking and silly foul gave them the decisive free kick. Thereafter we were steam - roller ed. Lonergan was weak in distribution, communication and aerially but not perhaps in the front line of blame for the goals.Some keepers would save the first and catch the cross for the 4th maybe? Clough flickered. Twardzik had some good touches and scored a neat goal..Slavchek had one good run at the end but we were outmuscled, dispirited and we'll beaten. Our young players underperformed especially Vela
Lonergan 5 Vela 3 Dervite 5 Wheater 5 Ream 5 Moxey 6 Bannen 7 Clough 5 Le Fondre 4 Trotter 2 Feeney 4 Twardzik 7 Slavchek 5
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Post by andyl on Feb 7, 2015 19:52:45 GMT
I have just edited my tapatalk post from the train and ironed out the predictive text's predilection for turning Le Fondre into Le Fondue. But maybe it knows something I don't. For the whole performance we put in was lightweight , cheesy, full of players picking at tackles and generally insubstantial and lacking fire.
Trotter fulfilled everyone's low expectations. He was perhaps harshly judged to have fouled when dispossessiing an opponent to set Le Fondre through but soon after got booked for a clumsy lunge and then needlessly conceded the free kick from which Ince scored. The second goal was really poor. They walked through and either one of two players could have scored after feeble tackling , anoverlap on the right and for four or five games running a vacant full back area.
Vela was alas all over the place today. His sojourn in midfield has completely disoriented him. The third goal came straight from a crazy infield pass . Mind that phase of play would not have occurred had Lonergan been willing to roll the ball out to Ream . For the umpteenth time in the game he spurned roll outs and launched high balls to our mighty pair of Clough and Le Fondre. They won precisely zero.
their fourth was a high ball from the left ( too much room given) the easiest of knock backs from the far post and a close range nod in. With no Wheater nor Mills and no Heskey or Davies to augment defence we were awful in the air and this goal looked like a training move. The fact that Lonergan was as ever trapped in no man's land helped them. Some keepers would go and collect those or at least punch them.
Derby were just stronger than we were and more committed but we made some horrendous mistakes. In the last few minutes they all but had a fifth when Ince shot against a post after Lonergan again chose to dive out of the way instead of standing tall. The first goal was a poor foul and Lonergan was very slow to move across to it. The second a procession through the middle of defence with a shot under Lonergan , the third was a very good shot after a blunder from Vela . The fourth a series of unchallenged moments. We more or less committed hari kari
But strange though it was at the game there were some good things to see. Bannen is a good capture. He looked really good at times and his left foot passing was reminiscent of the way Johnny Giles used to stroke the ball around. Clough battled away and had some good runs. Twardzik got a very neat goal and also looks to have a very cultured left foot. Moxey did quite well and towards the end the pair were combining to overlap well.
It it will be interesting to see what NL does but there were some things to be learned
1 Vela must move to midfield and McNaughton if fit needs to provide experience in that right back slot
2 If Emile is fit he has to start ahead of Le Fondre who is an impact sub
3 In this he's not alone because Eidur, Slavcek, Twardzik and Clough don't have full games in their legs
4 Feeney is a trier but there must be better options around. He lacks skill and again would be a sub rather than starter in most competitive teams
5 When Bogdan is fit he should be restored asap. Lonergan is no longer keeping him out on form.
6 Bannen looks a very good swap for Spearing. Generally the creative side of things is improving but it's no good if defence is sacrificed and we are too leaky. Mills isn't the best in the air but at least he's battle hardened. Dervite and Ream can play very well but they aren't the strongest when paired centrally
7 the whole team needs to be better aerially
8 Trotter despite my view that he has some strengths is fit only for the knackers's yard at present
9 we need a much greater physical presence up front ( see 2)
10 6 pts from 18 is relegation form again NL needs to stop the rot soon but at least his suitors might be less in evidence now
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Post by cadders on Feb 7, 2015 20:48:56 GMT
Negatives for me were, 1. We were to lightweight and got out-muscled too easily. When we did show a bit more fight we gave away stupid free kicks. 2. Inability to make simple passes, how many times did we pass into touch? (Derby did a few btw) 3. We appeared to give up when the fourth went in, what has happened to the fight and commitment Maybe they know that the season is nearly over as we won't go down and the play-offs are a dream
Positives, good ground and c30,000 Derby fans on a cold day is not bad even for a top championship side
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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 7, 2015 20:52:34 GMT
Worth keeping one eye on Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink just in case our leader NL does happen to get poached from the Prem His record is outstanding at the moment. Yes, I know it's only Burton, but I don't see anyone else in top of League 2 Funny how a few of us scoffed at the mention of his name to replace Freedman!!
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