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Post by andyl on Dec 23, 2014 15:43:51 GMT
Looking back at Oct post I'm seriously off re Bournemouth and Brentford. But the rest including Bolton and Fulham aren't far out. Brum exceeded expectations too.
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 23, 2014 18:25:51 GMT
Looking back at Oct post I'm seriously off re Bournemouth and Brentford. But the rest including Bolton and Fulham aren't far out. Brum exceeded expectations too. You've certainly got most about right so far Andy but let's face it who could ever have imagined those 3 B's doing quite so well as they have in the first half. It could of course all change in the New Year with some of the best performers so far slipping back a bit. Don't think any of the 3 have deep squads so a few injuries or loss of form to key players might sort them out. Let's hope so anyway if we're going to catch them?? ?
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Post by OohMac on Dec 23, 2014 20:42:51 GMT
If that comes true you should get millions back from your £1 bet. I too think Derby will win the league, at a canter. Think Norwich will be runners up with Fulham improving and getting a play off place with Forest, Cardiff and Blackburn or Boro. Think we'll get a few points in Lennons early games and then fizzle out a little. 15th. Well we've definitely got more than "a few" whether we'll fizzle out or not remains to be seen. It could happen as our squad is unbalanced and "waffer thin" to quote Monty Python. We may be forced to play the 7 central midfielders soon. But I'm miles more confident, he's built it back up from the back. I never had us down for the 1-0 wins when Lennon took over but he's basically doing right what Dougie was so desperately trying to do and thats when he has injuries. When we've been fully fit, we've played great stuff.
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Post by thekraken on Dec 27, 2014 12:15:00 GMT
I said 14th back in October. The position that we are now in at the half way stage. I think that I've underestimated! NL now averages two points a game. If we continue at that rate we will have 75 points, which in at least the past five seasons has guaranteed a play off place. It will be tough to make it to the play offs but not impossible. There's a lot of 'ifs and buts', but I now think that we have a good chance of being in the mix at the end of the season. A fantastic transformation if ever there was one.
All the best for 2015 to you all and to BWFC
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Post by thegrud1 on Dec 27, 2014 13:11:53 GMT
I,ve always said that if you set a team up not to lose,your saying to the players ,you cant win(FREEDMAN) If you set a team up to go out and try to win (LENNON),your saying to the players ,your good enough to win this. Its called man management and Lennon has it in abundance! Proud to be a Wanderer !!!!!
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 27, 2014 16:55:57 GMT
I,ve always said that if you set a team up not to lose,your saying to the players ,you cant win(FREEDMAN) If you set a team up to go out and try to win (LENNON),your saying to the players ,your good enough to win this. Its called man management and Lennon has it in abundance! Proud to be a Wanderer !!!!! Spot on Tg1 of all the things Freedman didn't possess Man Management was the most obvious. Can anyone doubt that if he'd stayed we'd be well adrift at the bottom now and the certainty all our better players would be on their way out. I suppose now we know why Palace were so keen to see the back of him and why he certainly won't be going back there, or anywhere else anytime soon, given his now obvious ineptitude. Just a shame Gartside took so long to accept it unlike Whelan who soon realised OC wasn't up to it at Wigan and sent him packing.
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Post by megsontilidie on May 5, 2015 10:17:54 GMT
interesting to look back at this. bwfc position hampered massively by injuries. most not predicted top 2 right. i can't let WS63 get away with his "Watford are a bottom half ch'ship team" either ( mentioned on another thread ) . i did pick this up a month or 2 ago with him saying that prediction was looking bad. i'd always fancied them as a top 6 shout with their goal power.
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Post by andyl on May 6, 2015 17:46:37 GMT
This is why I seldom predict. I was way out with Bournemouth and Brentford and didn't imagine Birmingham's progress nor Cardiff ' s decline. Strangest of all was Derby ' s decline. O well! And I also over estimated our chances. In the event we would have been nailed on relegation certs but for that good run with Chungy! And injuries were not the complete explanation. Just maybe NL would not have lost interest so much if we had been in a scrap
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Post by Trotter on May 22, 2015 18:06:12 GMT
I was way off the mark with my prediction, still happy with Lennon though.
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Post by OohMac on May 22, 2015 20:16:28 GMT
"Think we'll get a few points in Lennons early games and then fizzle out a little."
Well we fizzled out a lot, and i've edited that quote and omitted the rest of it where i predicted Derby to win "at a canter" and Fulham will kick on and secure a playoff spot....the season before I tipped Burnley for relegation too. No wonder William Hill gives me free drinks and back rubs whenever I go in.
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Post by joanna on May 23, 2015 10:00:38 GMT
Andy L said: Just maybe NL would not have lost interest so much if we had been in a scrap I'm intrigued by this assertion. Please explain. Can you really know another man's mood and intentions any more than you can predict results, starting line-ups, final league positions etc?
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Post by andyl on May 23, 2015 11:12:55 GMT
At the generalised level you pose a difficult question, Joanna and iit'so one for and often visited by philosophers from ancient times to now! I suspect that an answer might be that we all think we can some of the time especially if we know a person well. And experts in body language can make accurate observations and there is some science applied for example to lie detection. But could one person reliably detect depression in another ? Did anyone watching Gary Speed on Football Focus imagine that his life would end later that day.?
However at the much more mundane level of my original post it was my impression that NL perhaps for good reason was less concerned with our final games than others in his place might have been and his body language at matches was less animated. This of course is the same NL who praised Lonergan greatly and yet after Notts Forest lost interest in him and released him. In my opinion those decisions look to have been affected by logic to a degree but perhaps also by emotion and mood at a given time?
My post merely related to end of season drift. Some leaders and managers do drift in concentration- Alastair Cook before my eyes as I write is perhaps a good example of a leader whose mood is predictable and his counterpart Brendan McCullum is transparent re his intentions?
Re predicting teams and league standings it's fun to try and knowledge experience makes it to a degree possible. It is not just luck that makes rtf and her partner as good as they are at Fantasy League predictions every year ? And fans on here do make accurate predictions some of the time.
So to answer your question yes I do think we can comment on and predict all such things some of the time but that we can be very wrong in our conclusions
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Post by joanna on May 23, 2015 11:58:30 GMT
In other words, it's possible to get lucky with a prediction (except for RTF apparently!) about as often as punters get it wrong.....but you assert a perceived lack of interest as an actual fact here: highly debatable!!
The media do this all the time (deliberately and often nastily in their case!) in order to try to sway our opinions for their own ends. The general election, for example, was seen to be tarnished and cheapened by such biased representation of the facts and of people's characters. Many of the sentiments behind Lord Leveson's recommendations have not been attended to one iota, which makes it a complete waste of money and time. Decency and fairness are lost in the process.
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Post by Trotter on May 24, 2015 8:06:19 GMT
Not only does Joanna portray beauty she has become my favourite read this season #sucker for beauty I am.
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Post by andyl on May 26, 2015 10:20:38 GMT
Well it can't be reciprocal or she would surely have berated me for not commending your repeated successes in fantasy league predictions !
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