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Post by andyl on Oct 20, 2014 19:35:14 GMT
You must bring this back in May, Trotter so that we can see how close we got.
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Post by surreywhite on Oct 20, 2014 21:21:18 GMT
I am truly astonished at the number of people who think we are in with a shot at promotion now..... Don't get me wrong, I think Lennon will do well for us and inevitably will be way better than Douglas..... But... We would need to bag points at a serious rate to get anywhere near such a level- I'm afraid that is simply beyond the realms of probability... A good result this season would be a solid mid table finish and that is exactly what I think we will get... 14th place, work on things over the summer and then see where a fair wind takes us next season...
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Post by OohMac on Oct 20, 2014 22:31:43 GMT
I too can't believe the level of optimism based on quite little. I argued with people who said we couldn't succeed with the same crop of players because think there's depth and reasonable quality in this squad but looking at the teams above us, so discounting Blackpool, there are some massive teams and very tough ties coming up. From memory we have a few Sky games Norwich, Wigan and Millwall with Cardiff and Brentford and then Blackpool. Fairly impossible to predict a points tally from that. I'd have said 2 with Dougie.
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Post by thekraken on Oct 21, 2014 22:24:48 GMT
I said I'd vote after the seeing them play at Charlton.
I'll go for 14th. Not enough players good enough for a promotion push.
Let's revisit this at the half way point of the season.
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Post by realtrottersforever on Oct 22, 2014 7:57:49 GMT
Unfortunately, I feel that Freedman's methods/tactics have been so ingrained in the players, over the last 2 years, and not many of those said players being good enough to adjust quickly to new methods, it will take some time to throw off the shackles of Freedman's legacy, that it will be no better than 14th.
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 22, 2014 12:51:46 GMT
Unfortunately, I feel that Freedman's methods/tactics have been so ingrained in the players, over the last 2 years, and not many of those said players being good enough to adjust quickly to new methods, it will take some time to throw off the shackles of Freedman's legacy, that it will be no better than 14th. I don't entirely disagree rftr but the two performances so far have proved the players can do better so I think several have already adjusted. It's goals we're short of and I don't think any combination of our current players will solve that problem. It's essential NL signs a proven goalscorer in January otherwise I agree with your 14th position. I'm still confident however that he will find us a player or two who will lift our fortunes. With what we already have I don't think it will take much to lift spirits and results to where we need them so I still maintain we can get near or into the play offs.
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Post by Trotter on Oct 22, 2014 18:51:27 GMT
You must bring this back in May, Trotter so that we can see how close we got. Yes will do, should be interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 8:44:18 GMT
Just staying up will do anything else will be a bonus. I will not be having a go at the new manager unless he does the same things as freedman ie picking the same under performing players week in week out the season started with the win over Birmingham lets just wait and see what happens eh.
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Post by Trotter on Oct 25, 2014 17:26:57 GMT
Just staying up will do anything else will be a bonus. I will not be having a go at the new manager unless he does the same things as freedman ie picking the same under performing players week in week out the season started with the win over Birmingham lets just wait and see what happens eh. Go on have a stab in the dark, Beckford does when he is in front of goal
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 8:46:11 GMT
I just hope Neil knows what he is doing Trotter cause Beckford has only scored 6 goals since he has been with us. Anyway I think all we need is a strong centre back and a top goal scorer and we should be ok.
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 27, 2014 18:29:51 GMT
Beckford had one good season at Leeds, other than that he's done nothing. He's had numerous chances but continuously failed to deliver. I don't think we'll see any change in that so for me he's a lost cause, get rid and give others a chance.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 11:00:54 GMT
The funny thing is whites we ain't got anybody who Neil is happy to just play and give them a chance as he is happy to keep giving Beckford more game time. In my opinion I would just use Beckford and C Davies as impact subs and let the others have a go. I know a bloke can't just walk in and get it right but bugger me Beckford has had is chance.
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Post by Trotter on Dec 21, 2014 14:59:33 GMT
Hmm anyone still want a guess?
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 21, 2014 17:42:06 GMT
Hmm anyone still want a guess? I'm sticking to what I said earlier, play offs or close if NL can find a quality goalscorer. I don't think there's a team in the Championship we can't beat if we play to our strengths so I'd expect the good run to continue. The players are growing in confidence every match and if NL can get one, or even better, two proven goal scorers into the squad I'm certain we can make it. None of the currently leading clubs are winning consistently so if we can keep the run going we'll soon be breathing down their necks. Three points against Rovers would be a good start.
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Post by Trotter on Dec 22, 2014 15:54:23 GMT
Love it, the confidence from supporters are a changing I feel, just like whites I also feel we will be in the shake up at the end of the season.
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