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Post by cadders on Aug 9, 2014 22:54:09 GMT
Well I went to today's game thinking we may get something out of it, I was right, lessons in - How not to defend
- How to give players acre's of space
- How to ball watch
- How to give needless fouls away because we can't control a football
We should have been one down inside 10 seconds, the guy couldn't believe his luck and panicked. He needn't have worried though as he got another chance 10 minutes later
The first half was absolute garbage, no other words can describe it.
The second half was better in terms of effort and commitment but unfortunately not in quality
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Post by kazooki on Aug 10, 2014 0:15:55 GMT
.. he is happy to consistently receive 10% odd in interest each year on that 160... As of earlier this year he gets nothing from the debt. As far as I'm aware all his interest payments have stopped and he can't demand any of his £160m back for the next 10 years other than through the club making a surplus. Buying a player for £1.5m like The Juke in reality represents an overall investment of almost £6m over 3 years if you add in wages (if he was on £25k a week) and agents fees etc. So if he is already out of pocket for £160m and isn't getting a penny back anymore, why would he want to add to that loss? Who could blame him? Trouble is, if he did sell out, we'd be even worse off than we are now, our income does not match our outgoings. So we'd be constantly in debt and having to go to the bank to borrow money and the banks don't write debt off .. they want it back with much higher interest. Where do the millions come from to improve the team then? All we could possibly hope for is that these investments like the school etc start to bear fruit or an oil tycoon comes in where money is no object. |
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Post by whitesince63 on Aug 10, 2014 8:14:08 GMT
So we all seem to agree that we're in a real mess, poor players on one hand and no money to improve it on the other. This situation can't have been a surprise to messrs Gartside and Davis, indeed the money strings were being pulled in our final year in the PL only Coyle lost the plot and we got relegated which wasn't part of the plan. Once we did getting straight back up was essential so what do they do but let Coyle start again despite us knowing by then he was clueless and then making matters worse by bringing in an even bigger useless clown in Freedman instead of an experienced hand of which there were a good few available. Giving an inexperienced and unproven individual a 3 year contract instead of a yearly rolling one tying him to us whatever happened just proves even more the stupidity of Gartside and ED. Davis has funded this club whatever we say and has also pumped millions into the Academy to try to bring through youth so I can't blame him too much other than allowing Gartside to squander so much of that money with such continued abysmal decisions. If ED has any sense left he'll now get rid of both Slimeside and Freedman, start again and hopefully stop the slide we're undeniably on with this pair in charge of things.
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Post by cadders on Aug 10, 2014 9:57:08 GMT
The thing that really got me yesterday was, they looked like they had never played together, we could have had 11 random players out there and they would have played better as a team! I seem to remember the same at this time last year which doesn't bode well for these early games.
God knows what they have been doing in pre-season, Chungy (in the 2nd half) was the pick of a bad bunch for me
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Post by riochforthereebok on Aug 10, 2014 10:36:29 GMT
Just watched the "20 second" highlights on the FLS and oh my god!!!! We are in bigger trouble than I first feared... Lonergan should remain in the stiffs line up.. Tim Ream?  Best advice ever given to a defender when the ball is going over the touch line, stand up and don't fully comit. You could have turned a Blackpool tram quicker than his movement and reaction for their second goal. 3-0 could have been 5-0 and that is even more worrying. Come end of season I suspect we'll have the worst defensive record of all if we can't get basic defending right. Didn't see Mark Robins becoming the first managerial casualty, there goes my fiver bet!!!  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 11:29:29 GMT
I can't help thinking that a major bombshell will be dropped in BWFC by Fartside and Eddie!!! Not sure what the bombshell would be but I hazard a guess, something like 'administration' Hope I'm wrong You will be bwfc cant go into administration because the owner is the debtor and cant forclose on his own debts , hope that's one thing less for you to worry about  |
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Post by riochforthereebok on Aug 10, 2014 12:40:56 GMT
I can't help thinking that a major bombshell will be dropped in BWFC by Fartside and Eddie!!! Not sure what the bombshell would be but I hazard a guess, something like 'administration' Hope I'm wrong You will be bwfc cant go into administration because the owner is the debtor and cant forclose on his own debts , hope that's one thing less for you to worry about Cheers owdon I was reaching for the rope for a minute!!  |
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Post by BL2 on Aug 10, 2014 13:11:06 GMT
You will be bwfc cant go into administration because the owner is the debtor and cant forclose on his own debts The owner (Eddie) is actually the creditor. Its Burnden Leisure PLC who is the debtor. |
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Post by BWFCTILIDIE on Aug 10, 2014 13:48:34 GMT
With everything that is owned (freeholds) by Eddie/his companies there is absolutely no chance if administration. It would be a lose lose situation? Completely pointless and all assets built up over the last decade would have to be sold/lost..
Administration is completely out of the question and totally irrelevant.
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Post by kcobain4 on Aug 10, 2014 14:09:12 GMT
Just watched the "20 second" highlights on the FLS and oh my god!!!! We are in bigger trouble than I first feared... Lonergan should remain in the stiffs line up.. Tim Ream? Best advice ever given to a defender when the ball is going over the touch line, stand up and don't fully comit. You could have turned a Blackpool tram quicker than his movement and reaction for their second goal. 3-0 could have been 5-0 and that is even more worrying. Come end of season I suspect we'll have the worst defensive record of all if we can't get basic defending right. Didn't see Mark Robins becoming the first managerial casualty, there goes my fiver bet!!! I was pessimistic before the start of the season...but we seem to be even worse than I feared!!! Welcome all to another Bwfc season in hell!!!! Unless major improvements in the team in the next 3 games DF must call a taxi..and with the way PG has been running the club in the last 7-8 years will be major contenders of going down...never a team without a proper striker (who can score for a change) and a defence as bad as ours survived the championship. |
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Post by kcobain4 on Aug 10, 2014 14:12:46 GMT
With everything that is owned (freeholds) by Eddie/his companies there is absolutely no chance if administration. It would be a lose lose situation? Completely pointless and all assets built up over the last decade would have to be sold/lost.. Administration is completely out of the question and totally irrelevant. Administration doesn't make sense in our situation...only two options: either drop further down and rebuild gradually(10 years of misery with high risk of never getting out of the loop) or sell the whole thing to someone else (together with all the infrastructure that are valued more than the team it self). |
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Post by whitesince63 on Aug 10, 2014 15:58:07 GMT
There isn't any need for panic either financially or football wise if ED just does one simple act first thing tomorrow. Bullet Slimside and Freedman, find a decent chairman and recruit a proper, seasoned manager. Can anyone now say we would have been worse off sticking with the 3 amigo's than bringing this clown and his extensive entourage in at significant cost. All he's done is jettison players whose contracts were up anyway and replace them with no marks at lower wages. Now tell me that none of us could not have done that. In fairness I don't actually blame Freedman and in some ways feel sorry for him being put in a position he wasn't in any way qualified or experienced enough to deal with. He's no more than a yes man for Gartside who is the real culprit. Freedman only has one system in his head but sadly not the players to play it. A good manager fits the system to the players he's got which in a nutshell illustrates why Freedman will never succeed. No matter how many times it fails he will always find something or someone to blame exactly like he did yesterday, rather than admit he got it wrong. Grow some Davis and act now before we suffer any longer. Bring back Brownie, ditch the terrible two and things will quickly pick up even with Freedman's rag bags.
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Post by realtrottersforever on Aug 10, 2014 16:01:46 GMT
Most will have seen very short highlights via FL show or goals express on sky. These are the slightly longer at 3 mins 24 Official bwfc version. worth watching for the Moxey clanger straight from kick off.  even official bwfc are struggling to find any decent chances for us. |
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Post by socalwanderers on Aug 10, 2014 18:35:28 GMT
Evening All!!
Had to resist posting yesterday till I calmed down.
Yet another explosive start to the season by the clueless leader and his misfits!!
To the traveling supporters that spent their hard earned will be very wary to go to the Bury game.
Can't find any positives on the game except it could have been more than just 3 goals!!
Spearing & CYL looked like the only two that cared!!
We will be very very lucky IF we stay in this league with that showing!!
We are a spent force if you read between the lines from DF's interviews, where as Gartside seems happy enough to take all the money from this years season ticket holders and look forward to his BIG bonus come the end of the year!!
Please excuse me if my posts are very far and few bettween now and the end of the season!! I won't be getting excited any time soon until DF resigns and takes is best mate Gartside with him.
If its true that mason has signed for us on loan don't get too excited with DFs amazing plan of one up front will never ever work with this current squad!
BTID still happy with Dougal??
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Post by BWFCTILIDIE on Aug 10, 2014 18:49:18 GMT
Good evening socal... I'm as pissed of as anyone else after yesterday's disgrace. Until we spend money on a decent striker or two we may aswell get used to it. Mason signed until January really isn't the answer !
I wouldn't say I'm panicking and I still feel that Df will get it right.
Having said that, we as fans watch football for entertainment. He needs to remember that fairly sharpish.
As does Gartside !!!!!!
GARTSIDE OUT !!!!!
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Best advice ever given to a defender when the ball is going over the touch line, stand up and don't fully comit. You could have turned a Blackpool tram quicker than his movement and reaction for their second goal. 3-0 could have been 5-0 and that is even more worrying. Come end of season I suspect we'll have the worst defensive record of all if we can't get basic defending right.
even official bwfc are struggling to find any decent chances for us. 