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Post by realtrottersforever on Aug 8, 2014 16:56:56 GMT
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Post by joanna on Aug 8, 2014 18:27:09 GMT
What I'm looking for this season is some entertainment and attacking intent. Paying fans loyal to the club deserve some excitement, rather than be told to sit quietly and accept the possibility of successful containment as some kind of electrifying victory.
If we have no natural striker, then we have to create more chances. Utilised adventurously, we have midfield players who can do that. More points will accrue.
The defence should be able to cope, especially at home, without two holding players, whereas the attack needs more than Beckford as the one up top to convert chances, and the midfield will need to supply plenty of opportunities. I'm tired of the post-match cliche that "we had chances to win the game", when it's been plain to see that we've been battered for 90% of the match.
Dougie, please let our creative players express themselves this season and drop the dull masterplan or we will have no supporters left and the financial plight will worsen.
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Post by Pedro on Aug 8, 2014 18:43:26 GMT
Freedman is the s....... oh! someone has said that already!! Vitesse Arnhem had a hard time getting through our defense and I'm sure they were better than Watford so I am optimistic that we wont let in a cricket score - score draw would be a good result
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Post by andyl on Aug 8, 2014 19:15:01 GMT
Stood in Lancashire CC pavilion during rain today speaking about tomorrow with a stalwart fan on his way to Watford tomorrow. As ever injuries aren't helping. We may be capable of threatening the play off places or we may again struggle.Time will tell. I think the squad is better than last year .
First games are notoriously poor predictors. Watford were dire at home when we met them last year.
A 0-0 may be a likely return?
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Post by riochforthereebok on Aug 8, 2014 19:58:24 GMT
Quite from tonight's game Blackburn v Cardiff which is currently 1-1
"BLACKBURN 0-1 CARDIFF Cardiff look sharp going forward. Maynard, Jones and Le Fondre as a front-three is exciting - full of pace and invention, as well as power in Jones. Maynard just missed out on a key pass while in a good position in midfield"
"LOOK SHARP GOING FORWARD" It's been a long time (Okocha Djorkaeff Speed) I heard that quote about Bolton, but will the Doog have a trick up his sleeve one wonders??
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Post by mark on Aug 8, 2014 20:37:12 GMT
I think we will go all out for a 0-0 draw and Watford will sneak it 2-0.
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Post by spanishjonny on Aug 8, 2014 21:02:16 GMT
If we can't score, a clean sheet would prove the defence can do their job, that'll do for me at this stage
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Post by surreywhite on Aug 8, 2014 21:06:58 GMT
If BWFC line up 4-2-3-1 with Beckford up top on his own then you can forget any chance of a win for me unless you keep possession and play it neatly on the floor with constructive passes in behind the defence for him to run on to.. That won't happen, and it will be hitting high balls in for him to hold up as if Juke were still there.. If your playing that way then start with C Davies or Wilkinson.. Basically anyone but Beckford!! Can't see us scoring and can't see us keeping a clean sheet if we line up as expected so it's 2-0 Watford for me and a unhappy bunch of fans by 5pm tomorrow....
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Post by realtrottersforever on Aug 8, 2014 21:55:15 GMT
Great to see 16 different posters on this thread, the forum's picking up
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Post by BWFCTILIDIE on Aug 9, 2014 6:48:35 GMT
If BWFC line up 4-2-3-1 with Beckford up top on his own then you can forget any chance of a win for me unless you keep possession and play it neatly on the floor with constructive passes in behind the defence for him to run on to.. That won't happen, and it will be hitting high balls in for him to hold up as if Juke were still there.. If your playing that way then start with C Davies or Wilkinson.. Basically anyone but Beckford!! Can't see us scoring and can't see us keeping a clean sheet if we line up as expected so it's 2-0 Watford for me and a unhappy bunch of fans by 5pm tomorrow.... From what I saw against vitesse I can't see any reason why we couldn't keep a clean sheet today? We were pretty solid defensively. Our issue is creativity and support going forward. In fact, from what I saw, we have nothing at all going forward at the minute. No support, nobody to aim for, nothing. As someone else mentioned on another thread though, at the moment I'd be delighted with a clean sheet and a goalless draw until somehow, we manage to bring in some attacking forces.
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Post by bonaparte on Aug 9, 2014 7:39:14 GMT
Right on Joanna. Deluded Dougie says the fans now understand his style and plan. Speaking for myself, I have yet to see a change in style, so show us He says the season ticket holders are with him. I am a season ticket holder who is with the club, regardless of CEO and manager. Win or lose, we want to be entertained and not be embarrassed to admit we support BWFC in the pub on a Saturday night. He says Darren Pratley puts in the effort, hope we are not seeing the birth of a new Zat Knight. Anyone know where Liam Trotter was in the friendlies?
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Post by whitesince63 on Aug 9, 2014 8:00:32 GMT
Some very good and thoughtful posts last couple of days but the thread running through them all is that not one of us knows what will happen or even what the team will be. I would be surprised if much has changed from last season given most of the team's the same so I remain to be convinced that the fall has ended. Eleven back at corners, not enough skill to play the ball on the ground, no pace and no goal scorers. Those are the facts whether you like them or not so unless one or two suddenly up their game I can't begin to feel positive. But I hope I'm wrong!!
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Post by joanna on Aug 9, 2014 9:25:32 GMT
W63: You forgot to mention no physical presence either, especially now that Juke has gone. So many of our players are brushed off the ball far too easily. BSA employed skilful players but allied this with very strong physical presence to intimidate. We present no fear-factor now.
Can DF motivate our lightweights to 90 minutes of all-action endeavour? Are we fit enough? Have the players been given roles appropriate to their skills? We'll soon see!
More than anything else, I'll cringe if the words of Ian Holloway about us are borne out by our performances. Fans want to be proud of their club and the way they go about their business. It was hard to feel proud at Reading......
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Post by surreywhite on Aug 9, 2014 10:39:03 GMT
If BWFC line up 4-2-3-1 with Beckford up top on his own then you can forget any chance of a win for me unless you keep possession and play it neatly on the floor with constructive passes in behind the defence for him to run on to.. That won't happen, and it will be hitting high balls in for him to hold up as if Juke were still there.. If your playing that way then start with C Davies or Wilkinson.. Basically anyone but Beckford!! Can't see us scoring and can't see us keeping a clean sheet if we line up as expected so it's 2-0 Watford for me and a unhappy bunch of fans by 5pm tomorrow.... From what I saw against vitesse I can't see any reason why we couldn't keep a clean sheet today? We were pretty solid defensively. Our issue is creativity and support going forward. In fact, from what I saw, we have nothing at all going forward at the minute. No support, nobody to aim for, nothing. As someone else mentioned on another thread though, at the moment I'd be delighted with a clean sheet and a goalless draw until somehow, we manage to bring in some attacking forces. . I'd be equally delighted with a clean sheet BTID, I just can't see one though... I acknowledge that the defence is considerably more solid than it was and has improved immensely, however, for me it will continue to come under too much pressure due to our inability to maintain posession, and also our lack of a decent hold up player to act as an outlet ball for the def when they are forced to clear their lines quickly.. For me the pressure will keep coming on to them (invited in the main) and they will eventually crack...
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Post by realtrottersforever on Aug 9, 2014 11:15:09 GMT
I also can't see a clean sheet, although without Zat the chances must have improved by 25%. But DF has already stated his aim of us controlling the possession and not allowing Watford the ball, but it will be interesting to see if our possession stats improve over last year's dismal showing.
It will be interesting to see which centre backs he plays, because Mills isn't the best at passing the ball out from the back, and just a quick thought, if DF intends us to build from the back why do we need a big target man?
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