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Post by andyl on Aug 27, 2024 19:33:54 GMT
Should be plus six
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Post by andyl on Aug 27, 2024 19:41:13 GMT
Yet again woeful passing. Misses by Arfield (4) Santos (1) Dempsey (1) Thomason (1) and Charles (1) . Maybe more?
Good points. Thomason again more measured, less frenetic, not risking yellows. Forini looks solid. Osei- Tutu progressive.
Bad points Dacres-Cogley never overlaps, Matete neat but under- performing, one lost possession just awful. Santos lummoxing in first minute no less. No wingplay at all.
Arfield is showing intelligence but no finish, Charles not holding the ball.
Good Southwood save after man left unmarked.
Goals bring confidence. We have none as yet
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Post by chip on Aug 27, 2024 20:44:40 GMT
A win is a win Dempsey MOM for me two well taken goals and a clean sheet well done all round COYWM
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Post by whitesince63 on Aug 27, 2024 21:23:04 GMT
A win is a win Dempsey MOM for me two well taken goals and a clean sheet well done all round COYWM Demps did play well chip but for me Thomason was mom, some of his passes were sublime. I do think we have to accept that Shrewsbury were awful though and we really should have won far more convincingly. I suspect it will be much tougher against Exeter who will likely just sit in and bottle us up. I think Desmond was far more progressive on the left than Schon and both Forino and Matete grew into the game and should both start on Saturday. Interesting that none of Williams, Dan, Iredale or Victor were on the bench. Leaving soon?
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Post by kenglowhite on Aug 27, 2024 21:40:15 GMT
As I said in my last post the main midfielders should be Thomason and Matete and that looked good tonight. Agree Thmomason was MOMO. Surprised at Tu-Tu's performance on the left ,and he looks a better bet there than Schon. Agree that Cogley has started cutting in rather than getting round the back of opponents' defence. Wonder if Forino will replace Toal at the end of the day. Johnston continues to impress.
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Post by OohMac on Aug 27, 2024 21:50:46 GMT
Didn't see it but fair play to Evatt on getting what he wanted from the game. I'm amazed he risked Johnston.
Iredale is handy as he can do CB and LWB but not being involved doesn't look great for his career. Odd though as he started the season. I guess thinking may be Forino and Jones or JDC could go RCB and then Toal could cover LCB.
Other worry is Randell not getting him too many games. He's the hokey cokey of players in, out, in, out. Shake it all about.
And surprised not to see Vic(knock) and Nlundulu(not sure)
Makes me wonder if Iredale, Nlundulu are gone as they seem to and possibly bids for Adebeyajo, it could me more business before the deadline. Assume Coleman too but don't think we need to do anything there.
So credit to the win, but will mean nothing unless we follow it up with 3 points and good performances at the weekend
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Post by whitesince63 on Aug 28, 2024 8:00:27 GMT
I agree OM it’s essential that we follow last night up with a good performance on Saturday. It will be interesting to see how Evatt deals with the team he picks for Exeter because all of those who came in made a difference so much food for thought. I think the midfield of Thommo, Demps and Matete worked well and Forino was much steadier tha Toal is currently. Desmond down the left wing was much more productive than Schon, who I’m still not convinced by and for once JDC threatened though once again fell down with his final ball. If only he could get that right? So all in all a much more impressive performance than I expected albeit against what was a very poor Shrewsbury.
I think the next few days will be taken up with ins and outs though I expect most to go to the final hours. Will we bring anyone else in I suppose depends on who leaves. If we lost players we don’t really want to like Dion, Baxter, Victor and even Johnston now he’s proved he’s fully fit again, we will need to replace them. Personally I’m happy to leave the squad exactly as it is because we have cover in every position when everyone’s fit again but I think that’s unlikely so we’ll just have to wait and see. 🤷♂️
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Post by OohMac on Aug 28, 2024 8:56:57 GMT
I agree OM it’s essential that we follow last night up with a good performance on Saturday. It will be interesting to see how Evatt deals with the team he picks for Exeter because all of those who came in made a difference so much food for thought. I think the midfield of Thommo, Demps and Matete worked well and Forino was much steadier tha Toal is currently. Desmond down the left wing was much more productive than Schon, who I’m still not convinced by and for once JDC threatened though once again fell down with his final ball. If only he could get that right? So all in all a much more impressive performance than I expected albeit against what was a very poor Shrewsbury. I think the next few days will be taken up with ins and outs though I expect most to go to the final hours. Will we bring anyone else in I suppose depends on who leaves. If we lost players we don’t really want to like Dion, Baxter, Victor and even Johnston now he’s proved he’s fully fit again, we will need to replace them. Personally I’m happy to leave the squad exactly as it is because we have cover in every position when everyone’s fit again but I think that’s unlikely so we’ll just have to wait and see. 🤷♂️ Goalkeepers were fine. Can lose Coleman. Defenders I'd like to see two new wing backs with more onus on attack. And if we need to in games we can go 4 at the back and play them as orthodox wide attacking players. Maybe Schon and TuTu can do that but not sure on Williams and JDC. I'd be open to offers. Centre backs we have Jones, Toal, Forino,Johnston, Ireale, Santos and Forrester. I'd say that's at least one too many. Forrester may not register for this half of the season given the injury and depth. Midfielders - still want that no nonsense, sleeve roller upper who will talk all the way through the game and get stuck in. Captain the side and take GT under his wing. With Morley gone wouldn't lose any more Attackers - at the moment we have number 9s and number 10s but if we want to go 433, 451(which I think we should) I don't see any of them with the quality to go on the left with Collins perhaps capable of doing it on the right. If we could get a more adaptive player in there would welcome it obviously with Dan Nlundulu going elsewhere. Like an Adam Armstrong loan type. So I still see a busy ish day on Friday and that's without any surprise bids for Baxter, Sheehan, Santos, Charles and Vic.
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Post by andyl on Aug 28, 2024 15:03:24 GMT
We can see already that the season is about squad depth and an early season jigsaw. On the basis of attending at Charlton and TV watching Wrexham and Shrewsbury, we have improved depth, have still got some of last season's gaps and miss the Maghoma/ Morley skill add-on in midfield. The conundra
1. Baxter or Southwood- not much in this. Southwood appears to have sure distribution. On saves they are both good. On crosses neither excels but Baxter has an edge. We will need both and that's the plus over Coleman as back up.
2 Santos v Forini- way too many Santos errors. Can standout via size and blocking. One excellent back tackle at Charlton. Will give goals away Hopeless up front. Last night one weak header and an amusing 'trying to get to' late on. Looked like Zebedee after a few pints. Help.Time for bed.
Forini made an error or two but looked quick and strong,also intelligent and communicating
D-C. V Jones vToal v Forini v O-T. D-C looks lost without Jones to overlap. Forini went forward once last night. Toal cannot pass or overlap but can shoot/head. O-T has shown flashes of skill already.
Matete v Dempsey. We are light in midfield. Matete is very flimsy and even though sub made horrible errors in possession in both recent games. One eye catching run last night and some skill suggests some hope. Dempsey most times brings energy and direction but little skill
Collins, Charles McAtee. All three are too flicky and disjointed. Charles will get and miss goals. At present we are committing too much resource to attack without variety. We have no consistent width which makes breaking down a well organised defence difficult.
Passing. Thomason is our best but he still makes some shockers. We have let Morley go too soon unless replaced. We lack creativity in midfield- glaringly so
Pressing- at times really good. McAtee helps. Thomason v good. Collins improving. I feel we need a stable defensive midfield. Sheehan is good at link play but oppositions tend to target him to their good effect. He needs better forward options. Victor did ok v Wrexham but needs service and peer support if to score goals.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Aug 28, 2024 19:00:17 GMT
We can see already that the season is about squad depth and an early season jigsaw. On the basis of attending at Charlton and TV watching Wrexham and Shrewsbury, we have improved depth, have still got some of last season's gaps and miss the Maghoma/ Morley skill add-on in midfield. The conundra 1. Baxter or Southwood- not much in this. Southwood appears to have sure distribution. On saves they are both good. On crosses neither excels but Baxter has an edge. We will need both and that's the plus over Coleman as back up. 2 Santos v Forini- way too many Santos errors. Can standout via size and blocking. One excellent back tackle at Charlton. Will give goals away Hopeless up front. Last night one weak header and an amusing 'trying to get to' late on. Looked like Zebedee after a few pints. Help.Time for bed. Forini made an error or two but looked quick and strong,also intelligent and communicating D-C. V Jones vToal v Forini v O-T. D-C looks lost without Jones to overlap. Forini went forward once last night. Toal cannot pass or overlap but can shoot/head. O-T has shown flashes of skill already. Matete v Dempsey. We are light in midfield. Matete is very flimsy and even though sub made horrible errors in possession in both recent games. One eye catching run last night and some skill suggests some hope. Dempsey most times brings energy and direction but little skill Collins, Charles McAtee. All three are too flicky and disjointed. Charles will get and miss goals. At present we are committing too much resource to attack without variety. We have no consistent width which makes breaking down a well organised defence difficult. Passing. Thomason is our best but he still makes some shockers. We have let Morley go too soon unless replaced. We lack creativity in midfield- glaringly so Pressing- at times really good. McAtee helps. Thomason v good. Collins improving. I feel we need a stable defensive midfield. Sheehan is good at link play but oppositions tend to target him to their good effect. He needs better forward options. Victor did ok v Wrexham but needs service and peer support if to score goals. Really good summary Andy, which leaves the greatest weakest of link of all, Ian Evatt, because he’s spent with what to do with them Even on the BN last night, the comments were pretty much a resounding confusion with Evatt’s selection and formation. Some comments stating that certain players were being played out of position (a favourite of Evatt’s) but then what happens, we go on and win Is that a lucky ‘accidental’ team selection? I’d say it’s more that Shrewsbury were replicating our Charlton performance at the weekend as they were god awful I half expect us to beat Exeter, you know, home game, decent crowd again, players hoping to prove that the 3 games we’ve played so far are not to the levels they expect, that sort of thing, but then, football doesn’t map out as one expects, so I’d be no less surprised if we got beat either In Evatt I don’t trust 🤔😳
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Post by riochforthereebok on Aug 28, 2024 21:42:13 GMT
Not sure this Carabao draw is a fair system but we’ve been drawn away to Arsenal
That should see a few quid in the coffers and we know we won’t be in round 4
All champions league teams drawn at home, what a bloody swiz
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Post by whitesince63 on Aug 28, 2024 21:51:29 GMT
Perfect draw for us that one. A money spinner for the club, great experience for the players and you never know in a one off game. Can’t really lose with this one.
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Post by OohMac on Aug 29, 2024 8:58:40 GMT
People moaning but was the comp ever fair when European teams don't even enter until Round 3 and not round 2.
So not sure why there's uproar and the new draw allows us a better chance to take our side to, in this case The Emirates.
Would we really want to play Mansfield again even if it meant we could progress.
My question is how much money is there actually in it?
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Post by OohMac on Aug 29, 2024 9:00:02 GMT
And if there is an extra bit of cash does that open the door a bit more for another deadline target?
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Post by riochforthereebok on Aug 29, 2024 9:52:39 GMT
And if there is an extra bit of cash does that open the door a bit more for another deadline target? You’d have to hazard a guess that a midweek game in London will yield a 45,000 plus crowd (58,000 if The Arsenal bully their fans into buying tickets for this one) but then, how much of that gate receipt would we be entitled to, if any?? I’d also guess that the Carabao money for R3 is probably about £20,000 for the side that progresses (if the finalists and runners up only get £100k & £50k respectively) Speaking of large crowds, if you read the BN with everyone claiming to be at Highbury THAT night way back in 94, they’d have had a 70,000 crowd😂😂 I was there in the Clock End, only to come out and find our mini bus clamped in Islington Always remember driving down this road and the amount of cars on driveways with Man Urinal paraphernalia in the back windows was strange to say the least, you could see the stadium from their driveways I’m still of the mind that we need to exit all comps and go for the one that really matters -promotion, at all costs, so yes, nice that we have a great draw, like you say OooooooooM, could have been Mansfield away which would have been as pointless as a Tuesday or Wednesday in London, but at least this way, the TV channels get to see how bad Evatt’s tactics are
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