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Post by realtrottersforever on Sept 26, 2023 15:54:47 GMT
Much has been said since Saturdays game, about the indiscipline of the players and the manager himself. But just thought I would dig out this story from the Bolton News from JANUARY 2021.
Asked after the game why he had moved to the dugout closest to the South Stand – or traditional away end – the Wanderers boss says he felt visiting teams have had an unfair advantage.
“I think the layout of the stadium is wrong in terms of the away dressing room is next to the referee’s room,” he said.
“The away dugout is next to where the linesman is, so we should have that advantage.
“We want to be in the linesman’s ear as much as we can asking for decisions, so that was the thinking behind it.”
and he wonders why the players are so indisciplined!!!!
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 26, 2023 20:10:49 GMT
I have to ask RTF, where do you reckon Evatt got this ludicrous idea from??
I do not know the Blackpool team back in the day, but was this a Holloway idea in their Premier League Years that Evatt is copying, to always be in the linesman’s ear??
Yes, you want a passionate manager that cares but Evatt takes that way beyond passion into just plainly and simply being ‘a right moaning b’stard with a permanent agenda against ref or linesman’
No wonder he’s the most booked gaffer
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Post by realtrottersforever on Sept 28, 2023 10:12:41 GMT
I have no idea RFTR, but looking at a pic of the Blackpool dugouts, the home dugout appears to be on the same side ours used to be, so it wouldn't appear to be anything to do with his time at Blackpool.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 28, 2023 10:34:25 GMT
Nowhere else to stick this so I thought I’d shove it here I’m fairly sure that Owen DOES come up for air at some point, but it’s a great trip down memory lane My god, he can talk😂😂 I love these www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyh7T7ZPXQ4 |
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Post by OohMac on Sept 29, 2023 6:51:11 GMT
Think the changing rooms switch, the tunnel swap was all part of Ians "marginal gains" tactic.
That for me in a nutshell is how I see Evatt. Trying to appear revolutionary and clever, I know from podcast he talks about reading books on marginal gains. Trying to squeeze out that extra 0.1% that's needed to win tour de France, a grand prix, the boat race etc. I get all that but football isn't always that tight. By, for instance, being crap at corners you're ignoring 25% gains. Santos gets 1 goal a season. He should be on 10. Sheehan and Morley should be on 10 each. They're probably 5. That's 90% improvements available in Santos'case. Too much clever clogging.
I've no doubt that the refs are connected, in a Union, if you give the ref or the 4th official verbal diarrhoea for 90 mins the chances are they aren't going to throw anything your way. Then when they meet up and say where are you next week "Bolton" they're going to say "was there last week. What an afternoon. That mouth of a manager doesn't give it a rest. Sent him off 3 times already. Need to be on top of him from minute 1 or he we won't shut up"
Refs are only human. And only human instinct to think "I like you, I'll let you have that one" and "I don't like you, you're getting nothing from me if I can help it"
On another point. Banishing the away support up to the gods. I completely understand. They are far away. Less influence on the officials. Their support doesn't reach thier players and being so far away probably dampens thier energy too. But stadiums need atmosphere. And we know the best atmospheres are when two sets of fans are in full swing.
On top of that when we're on TV and the South stand hasn't a single person in it it looks awful. As a neutral you wouldn't know that the travelling support are all up on row z you just think "remember when Bolton were premier league selling out that stadium now there's not a single fan there
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 29, 2023 9:48:34 GMT
I agree on pretty much all of that OM, I’ve never thought that getting on officials backs all the time ever did you any good. I can understand it by the players as long as they don’t go too far and other teams have benefitted from it against us with decisions but when even your players don’t claim why should the official give you anything? The tackle by Wigans Humphrey’s early on should easily have been at least a yellow yet nobody claimed and the ref didn’t give it. That could easily have changed the whole course of the game and probably did actually in Wigans favour? I don’t personally like seeing Evatt remonstrating all the time. Being passionate and showing emotions is fine, I think that’s what many of us go to matches for but IE regularly goes too far and as you say, the refs talk together and maybe that’s why we’re getting so many decisions against us? So much for marginal gains more significant losses. 🥴
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Post by realtrottersforever on Sept 29, 2023 16:34:42 GMT
I don't think we changed the changing rooms, nor the tunnel, it was purely the dugout, which always looks so ridiculous when they come out at the start of the game and half time, and they all have to walk in front of each other to get to their dugouts.
I agree that I think the officials just shut their ears to IE's protestations most of the time, until it gets too much, then he gets a booking.
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