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Post by davidm on May 23, 2023 15:38:51 GMT
Retained list info:-
Leaving are Dixon, Lee, Kachunga and Isgrove
New contracts offered to Sheehan and Bodvarsson whilst MJ Williams gets a new contract because he completed a certain number of games last season and it triggered an extension.
Sad about Lee. Happy about Bodvarsson.
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Post by chip on May 23, 2023 16:47:53 GMT
Good riddance to Dixon, Isgrove injury problems, Kachunga never a striker but gave is all at falling down a lot and surprised at Lee I thought we may have given him another year. Brilliant news about Bod and Sheehan onwards and upwards COYWM
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Post by whitesince63 on May 24, 2023 10:55:54 GMT
I don’t think good riddance is a comment that should be made against any of our players chip, it’s hugely disrespectful and also unfair in many ways. Dixon came in behind one of the worst defences we’ve ever had at Bolton and suffered from it thereafter. Crellin was then brought in and was even worse, then thankfully Trafford was signed and the problem went away. Earlier issues clearly affected Joel’s confidence and every time he came in you could sense how nervous he was and it was usually in a game where numerous changes elsewhere had been made. The lad wasn’t even getting regular football in the B Team yet despite all this I seem to recall him making some important penalty saves for us, so cut the guy some slack. Hopefully Joel will get a move that reestablishes his confidence and he goes on to have a decent career. I can only wish the lad good luck in the future as I do with all the others leaving.
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Post by riochforthereebok on May 24, 2023 15:00:01 GMT
I don’t think good riddance is a comment that should be made against any of our players chip, it’s hugely disrespectful and also unfair in many ways. Dixon came in behind one of the worst defences we’ve ever had at Bolton and suffered from it thereafter. Crellin was then brought in and was even worse, then thankfully Trafford was signed and the problem went away. Earlier issues clearly affected Joel’s confidence and every time he came in you could sense how nervous he was and it was usually in a game where numerous changes elsewhere had been made. The lad wasn’t even getting regular football in the B Team yet despite all this I seem to recall him making some important penalty saves for us, so cut the guy some slack. Hopefully Joel will get a move that reestablishes his confidence and he goes on to have a decent career. I can only wish the lad good luck in the future as I do with all the others leaving. Not doubting what you’re saying at all here W63 and anyone that dons the white jersey needs some modicum of respect, but have I got my timelines wrong here?? Didn’t Dixon come in ‘after’ Billy or was it that Evatt decided to thrust Dixon in ahead of Billy as Billy was making basic errors🤔 I’m a bit confused and I can’t remember who came first??
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Post by OohMac on May 24, 2023 15:22:46 GMT
Yeah was Crellin first. He lost his place eventually to Gilks. When we got went up Dixon was brought in, many thought to rival Gilks but MG took the sub role. Then in Jan Traff came in, Dixon was 2nd choice and Gilks retired.
I feel for Dixon for all the points Whites made. I'm not even sure we need a replacement for him. We never see him. If No.1 gets injured I'm sure were allowed to have 2 keepers so can get emergency loan in.
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Post by riochforthereebok on May 24, 2023 15:49:23 GMT
Yeah was Crellin first. He lost his place eventually to Gilks. When we got went up Dixon was brought in, many thought to rival Gilks but MG took the sub role. Then in Jan Traff came in, Dixon was 2nd choice and Gilks retired. I feel for Dixon for all the points Whites made. I'm not even sure we need a replacement for him. We never see him. If No.1 gets injured I'm sure were allowed to have 2 keepers so can get emergency loan in. Thing is though OoooM, what sort of a goalie coach is Gilks if he’s been working hard on helping James Traffords game whilst Joel Dixon was on the sidelines and not even getting a place on the bench?? Surely all 3 plus that other reserve keeper should have been in the same class together and learnt from each other to help each other improve? Now we see Dixon released so Gilks clearly hasn’t earned his corn for me. I know you can’t polish a turd, (and I’m not referencing JD here)but has he had the right help and guidance? Dixon could really struggle now and with all the mental health issues around at the moment (I blame mobile phones) he might not get another league game and be consigned to non league, from a position of L1 reserve goalie, that’s got to affect the poor lad!!
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Post by OohMac on May 24, 2023 18:23:26 GMT
Yeah was Crellin first. He lost his place eventually to Gilks. When we got went up Dixon was brought in, many thought to rival Gilks but MG took the sub role. Then in Jan Traff came in, Dixon was 2nd choice and Gilks retired. I feel for Dixon for all the points Whites made. I'm not even sure we need a replacement for him. We never see him. If No.1 gets injured I'm sure were allowed to have 2 keepers so can get emergency loan in. Thing is though OoooM, what sort of a goalie coach is Gilks if he’s been working hard on helping James Traffords game whilst Joel Dixon was on the sidelines and not even getting a place on the bench?? Surely all 3 plus that other reserve keeper should have been in the same class together and learnt from each other to help each other improve? Now we see Dixon released so Gilks clearly hasn’t earned his corn for me. I know you can’t polish a turd, (and I’m not referencing JD here)but has he had the right help and guidance? Dixon could really struggle now and with all the mental health issues around at the moment (I blame mobile phones) he might not get another league game and be consigned to non league, from a position of L1 reserve goalie, that’s got to affect the poor lad!! Where did Crellin come from? Fleetwood where Gilks was working. It was him that told Evatt to sign Crellin. And who signed Dixon? Evatt after having bloody worked with him at Barrow. Which of these two worked with Trafford before? Neither. So I think the next Bolton keeper is better decided by a poll in the BN. And Gilks needs to prove his worth as a top coach and not a jobs for the boys.
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Post by chip on May 25, 2023 7:02:26 GMT
No sorry 63 but in my opinion good riddance he should never have been put in as our number one he was never good enough. There’s no disrespect just honesty and if you can’t be honest then don’t bother commenting I will always cheer anyone who wears our shirt and will equally never boo a player but I will always say what I feel I am not always right but not everyone is right. Onwards and upwards have a nice summer off see you all at the start of the new season COYWM
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Post by whitesince63 on May 25, 2023 7:12:44 GMT
Of course you’re entitled to your opinion chip but you usually express it so well that I was a little surprised at the way you expressed it this time. I got my timings wrong on Joel as quite rightly Billy C was in first but whilst I agree and don’t think Joel was good enough I just think some of it may not be entirely his fault so for me he deserves a thank you for what he has done and best wishes for the future. The lads certainly had some stick, much of it deserved but I’ve never heard him once complain about that or shy away from playing whatever the circumstances so good luck to Joel wherever he ends up now. You have a good summer too but I’m staying posting because I think there will be much to discuss over the summer even if others take time off and I’m only talking to myself!! 🤗
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