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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 24, 2023 12:19:56 GMT
Just thought I’d open up a debate on the ‘rags and riches’ of the North West football scene
I guess the thread will fall flat with a couple of comments from fellow posters here and there, but it’s pertinent point that I’m making as it concerns me how the game is suffering at the lower end
I don’t care what anyone in the country says about it but the NW has a larger share of the riches than any of other city clubs
ON THE RICHES
Man City announce a £300m investment to increase their seating capacity and to make their stadium a 7 day a week interest
They own a £100m footballer on silly wages with silly add ins from promoting products
We have City, United, Liverpool, Everton and then we have the Burnley’s and Blackburn’s, yea, the NW is a hot bed
I’m not sure if it’s Newcastle or Chelsea or another, looking to purchase a European club at some stage
ON THE RAGS
Rochdale drop out of league football to join Oldham
Bury went bump
Wanderers nearly followed
Grass roots is suffering, that’s why City have such a fantastic academy full of foreign kids waiting to break into the world of the Premier League
When will North West football get its act together and stop behaving with such greed and look to bolster these ailing lower league sides within our county
It has to happen or football will die in these parts for sure
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Post by OohMac on Apr 24, 2023 18:26:19 GMT
I don't usually like anything about American sport. But the draft system seems the one thing I think we can steal.
Not exactly sure on the details but my understanding is in NFL all players who graduate get put into a pool. The lowest ranking team then gets first pick of those players. Then it goes round and round.
So my idea would be that Premier league clubs have to name a provisional squad of say 30 players. Anyone under 23 and not in the squad is basically a free loan player.
Could regionalise it but theory is the teams get the best young players, the young players get the experience and it keeps costs down for the struggling clubs.
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 24, 2023 19:00:14 GMT
Just ditch the Premier League and put the four divisions back where they were. Sack Sky and make genuine supporters get off their backsides and actually go to games again. Unless this is done or the mega clubs sod off and join a European League nothing will change with the greed and selfishness in the game today.
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Post by Woppy the Italian on Apr 25, 2023 10:27:37 GMT
Just ditch the Premier League and put the four divisions back where they were. Sack Sky and make genuine supporters get off their backsides and actually go to games again. Unless this is done or the mega clubs sod off and join a European League nothing will change with the greed and selfishness in the game today. I've had those exact thoughts for years 63'. But I would had a couple more ideas. Stop the FA cup semi's being played at Wembley and stop the playoffs. They maybe exciting but they are very unfair. |
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Post by OohMac on Apr 25, 2023 12:16:02 GMT
I've had those exact thoughts for years 63'. But I would had a couple more ideas. Stop the FA cup semi's being played at Wembley and stop the playoffs. They maybe exciting but they are very unfair. I wouldn't get rid of the play offs. They make the season interesting for dozens of teams, see championship. There would be so many dead rubbers without BUT in National league and rugby league the advantage is proportionate so top team gets home advantage. In rugby you can even get two goes and chose opponents. Think that's extreme. I'd have no qualms going to Hillsborough for a one off semi final. However if I finished 5th just a point or goal off 4th I think just 1 leg away is too big a gulf. Yes scrap the Wembley semis. Plenty of new stadiums capable of hosting. Lose extra time too 30mins of extra dross playing for penalties. (World Cup final exception to the rule, not the rule) Whilst we're fixing things 4 down and up from L2/L1. Even though we benefitted from it it's still bonkers. |
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 25, 2023 13:16:17 GMT
I don’t think the FA Cup is the problem. It may be to fans and certainly those of a certain age and I’m sure for a player to actually win the FA Cup is wonderful but in the list of priorities for a PL club, certainly the big ones today, it’s way down the list of priorities. It’s the league and Champions League and nothing else. Even the Europa League or whatever it’s called now is second rate. It’s money, nothing else that is the primary goal of PL owners and top players. Why not when earning ridiculous and disgusting amounts of money through wages and sponsorship? I don’t blame 5hem, anybody would do it but they don’t give a flying fig about football in this country as long as they’re ok. With all the money splashing about at the top now and the PL managements only goal being to look after PL clubs why on Earth should they care about the Bolton’s, Burys or Wigans? It’s not their problem and the EFL can’t force them to pass over a bigger slice of the case now footballs been split. The only way to change that is for the whole ofvUK football to be one entity again and that ain’t going to happen. Personally I care nothing from the PL and if we never get there again I wouldn’t care a hoot. I hate the way money has ruined football at both ends but there is nothing I, or you,can do about it.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 25, 2023 17:34:58 GMT
I don’t think the FA Cup is the problem. It may be to fans and certainly those of a certain age and I’m sure for a player to actually win the FA Cup is wonderful but in the list of priorities for a PL club, certainly the big ones today, it’s way down the list of priorities. It’s the league and Champions League and nothing else. Even the Europa League or whatever it’s called now is second rate. It’s money, nothing else that is the primary goal of PL owners and top players. Why not when earning ridiculous and disgusting amounts of money through wages and sponsorship? I don’t blame 5hem, anybody would do it but they don’t give a flying fig about football in this country as long as they’re ok. With all the money splashing about at the top now and the PL managements only goal being to look after PL clubs why on Earth should they care about the Bolton’s, Burys or Wigans? It’s not their problem and the EFL can’t force them to pass over a bigger slice of the case now footballs been split. The only way to change that is for the whole ofvUK football to be one entity again and that ain’t going to happen. Personally I care nothing from the PL and if we never get there again I wouldn’t care a hoot. I hate the way money has ruined football at both ends but there is nothing I, or you,can do about it. I agree W63, except for your last sentence Football is nothing without fans and if fans turned away in their thousands, it would not have the entertainment value playing in Covid Stadiums once again. If fans voted with their feet, then clubs would have to change their way of business as the SKY’s BT Sports Amazons and DAZN’s would be half as interested in showing if there were no fans, surely? I mean, take Fulham for example, 3 grand for a season ticket in their new stand!!!! They’ve already admitted that the total income from this would only yield short of a million quid, like they really need that, but it just emphasises their greed for all things profit related at the expense of the poor paying fan Sheff Utd, Mum n Dad take 2 kids to the FA Cup semis v City, Pie n a pint, with travel and there’s not much change from a grand… Pathetic and morally wrong United v City at Wembley!!! Could they not lessen the travelling debt by housing it at The Millennium Stadium Cardiff, where a pie n a pint costs £15 less Fans are the lifeblood for all clubs, regardless of the ‘paltry’ income they bring in versus tv money Anyway, I’ve had my moan 😡 |
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