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Post by whitesince63 on Mar 21, 2023 8:17:55 GMT
So Wigan are in the mire again for late payment of wages whilst the ownership continue to make all kinds of excuses for it. Clearly the EFL have had enough and they will now get a 3 point penalty which just about ensures they’ll be relegated this season. The better news is they face further points deductions next year too!! It seems the EFL are also taking action against their owner so let’s see how that turns out. The ridiculous wages paid to some of their players seemed crazy from the start although to be fair it did get them the League one title and promotion last year but how quickly things change? So will the owner just say feck it and put them in admin again and with their debts would anybody actually want to take them on? A small club with poor support living well above its means, what did they really expect? You have to feel sorry for the genuine fans, less those jelly and ice cream tossers because we’ve been through it once and they look like it’s now going to be twice? Are they another Bury? Genuinely I hope not.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Mar 21, 2023 12:38:59 GMT
It’s just another warning sign W63 that football is in danger of going out of business in the lower reaches. whilst the top clubs continue to by bought out by ‘billionaires’
You can see the panic in Southampton, Everton, CP, Wet Spam, talk of changing managers for fear of the dreaded drop, because they know all to well, if you don’t keep feeding these hungry animals, they’ll eventually die, like Wigan
Football finances need to be regulated in a fair and honest way and across all leagues, otherwise, why bother with grass roots football if there’s no space for these young players to venture into.
There’s only ever one emerging talent like Rooney, Ronaldo, Haaland, the rest just amble along and if they’re fortunate, might get into the top leagues. You only have to look at the gossip columns to note that every club is linked to some foreign unknown who is, for some reason, worth £130m, the price of 5 League One clubs, ridiculous, shameful, unimaginable
We all remember growing up hearing the word ‘millionaire’ !!
That’s like hearing one hundred pounds these days. It’s also an average monthly salary for quite a lot of Premier League players
Football clubs still need help before the game dies forever, or we might as well just push on with a Super Super League for the elite clubs and do away with the rest
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Post by OohMac on Mar 23, 2023 8:15:41 GMT
Seeing rivals struggling down at the bottom is one thing. Especially when they made a decision to bring in a rookie manager weeks after a contract extension for the manager who won promotion. What were they thinking?
But as a Bolton fan got to wonder how this has been allowed to happen twice in a short time. Assumed that when Wigan bounced back they did so with a more responsible owner but seems not.
Think the points docked for wages is a much stronger stance than they took with us allowing it to drag on(even when fans raised concerned and got the everything is a-ok from Sean Harvey).
Weren't they challenging us for the signature of Adeboyejo in January. Where's that £400+k gone. Well not on wages that's for sure.
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Post by chip on Mar 23, 2023 16:27:41 GMT
I find the whole thing a bit sad that yet another club is struggling to pay players wages it makes you wonder why put everyone through this nightmare of maybe going out of business. I know that everyone wants to play premier league football but there has to a drawing of the line somewhere, don't get me wrong it was brilliant when we was in the premier league but I would take championship football with the odd challenging for promotion over going bust. I believe unless you have a sugar daddy with pots full of money don't put your club in hock.
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Post by whitesince63 on Mar 23, 2023 19:24:03 GMT
I’m sorry but the formation of the PL has been a disaster for football generally in this country. I’m afraid it’s beyond repair now, the moneys got just too big and the difference between the haves and have nots is just too great. I was actually sorry that the ESL didn’t get off the ground because if the “Big six” wanted to join one I’d have ushered them through the door with glee. We need to get back to one organisation where the top clubs contribute properly instead of paying totally ridiculous amounts of money to generally average players and managers whilst clubs in the lower leagues fight for survival. It isn’t just Wigan who are on the brink there are a number of other clubs who could go pop very soon. I don’t see any chance of it but I’d just love the whole PL thing to come crashing down like a pack of cards.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Mar 23, 2023 20:08:15 GMT
I’m sorry but the formation of the PL has been a disaster for football generally in this country. I’m afraid it’s beyond repair now, the moneys got just too big and the difference between the haves and have nots is just too great. I was actually sorry that the ESL didn’t get off the ground because if the “Big six” wanted to join one I’d have ushered them through the door with glee. We need to get back to one organisation where the top clubs contribute properly instead of paying totally ridiculous amounts of money to generally average players and managers whilst clubs in the lower leagues fight for survival. It isn’t just Wigan who are on the brink there are a number of other clubs who could go pop very soon. I don’t see any chance of it but I’d just love the whole PL thing to come crashing down like a pack of cards. Interesting points you make there W63 Who would you class as the Big 6 ?? It appears to have changed somewhat based on the value of the owners (rather than the club name itself) You wouldn’t put Newcastle amongst the B6, but now, they are probably the 2nd most richest in the PL after Citeh Then there’s Arsenal, I think even Bournemouth have wealthy owners (wouldn’t put them B6 in the National League) Where would Leicester fit?? Ex PL champions and owners with very deep pockets Debt ridden names like Urinals are still classed in the B6 based on fan base and past glories We all remember Chelsea in Div 2, going out of business with paltry crowds and now look at them Can one imagine any of these B6 sides being in the league below, when the true fan base would be less than half they get in the PL There’s many reasons to hate the PL, with very few reasons to enjoy it, unless of course you are classed as a B6 side, then nothing else matters |
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Post by whitesince63 on Mar 24, 2023 10:44:54 GMT
That would be an interesting question Rioch but one I wouldn’t find too difficult to answer personally given I’m an oldie but as you say you would possibly have to now include some of the more recent names like Newcastle certainly. Despite their owners I don’t think you could ever include the likes of Bournemouth, Leicester or Brentford. For me the six would be Manure, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs, Man Ciry and Liverpool. Like you, other than the Abramovic years I’ve never considered Chelsea to be a mega club like the others but then that’s because like you, I knew them in a former life. If just those six I mentioned left the domestic scene, I believe football in this country could return to something like the situation we had prior to the PL, much of the silly money would disappear and it would get back to being a more sober and competitive competition than it will ever be with the APL in existence. Unfortunately it’s just a pipe dream, money talks and there are too many interested parties involved to ever return it to being the sporting competition it once was.
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