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Post by chip on Mar 8, 2022 22:10:41 GMT
I'm sorry for being so blunt and crude but that was wank all this pissing about with the ball has cost us so many goals is it just me that see's it what the bloody hell does he tell the player's that for I'm sorry but our players are not good enough. We need to build for next season stay safe one and all COYWM
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Post by Pedro on Mar 8, 2022 22:11:03 GMT
Phew! .Oh dear, very frustrating to watch all the "pissing about" and lack of ideas to get past the "bus".
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Post by whitesince63 on Mar 8, 2022 22:12:19 GMT
Just come on from work and we are 1-nowt down So, let me get this straight, Bodvarsson scores (in a game where he was probably our best player v Gills) and is dropped to the bench for the following game Evatt, what are you doing??? Stop fkn tinkering with a winning side ffs😡😡😡 Have to say rftr, that was my thought when I saw the side. Just what is Evatt thinking not starting Bod who must have been full of confidence and raring to go. Baka is not a starter for me, impact sub at best but personally one to change in the summer. Clearly thinks he’s being clever constantly switching the team but history tells you it never works, strikers work in pairs and if you keep swapping them how can they ever form that partnership? On tonight though, two very clear points. Charles yet again misses a sitter trying to blast it instead of placing it and hitting the target and Bod calmly strokes the ball in from an almost identical position. Charles needs to play those two moments over and over until he gets it. Just hit the bloody target and you don’t need to blast it all the time. other than that, we play far too much side to side around our opponents box with nobody prepared to try to run through them and open them up. You might at least get a penalty or a free kick aro7nd the box but we’re happy to just keep passing it. That needs sorting because teams can defend against us too easily. No chance of making the top six now I’m afraid,bad,bad result that and two very achievable points thrown away. No point saying anything about their goal because how many times have we done it and yet we never learn. I wonder if our defenders know where row Z even is?
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Post by whitesince63 on Mar 8, 2022 22:14:46 GMT
Reminded me of games v York and Carlisle as we pushed for promotion in the Seventies. All over them, but couldn't finish. Tip tapping at the back again and too frantic at the front. What a pity Charles has lost his goalscoring touch. That was one of the games that should have been a banker in our play-off push. Now we have to win even more. Not going to do it Kenglo, I think the results tonight just about made it impossible and to be fair I think it’s beyond this team anyway, too many players who don’t show up when it matters.
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Post by OohMac on Mar 8, 2022 22:20:24 GMT
Yeah still think its over now but am glad that this team and thier manager havent walked away with 3 points.
Was just too much to ask but to think I was genuinely worried about relegation so what weve done is great and next season, few tweaks get rid of deadwood. Learn from mistakes of this season, no sentiment. No jobs for the boys. Just actual strength in depth.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Mar 8, 2022 22:41:36 GMT
I’m not at the ReeMac so I don’t know, but listening to Jack D on GMR fir at least 18 minutes in the second half (save for the odd Wigan interruptions) and I have to say for sure that I didn’t hear Dion Charles name mentioned once, in fact, it was so bad, I had to check the line ups again
The Beeb recorded us with 82% possession (wtf does Evatt drill into them on the training ground) we are an exciting, energetic, force to be reckoned with aren’t we? So why STILL doing all the side passes which lead to cock ups!!
I’ll repeat it again as I’ve said previously, we had to be immaculate to achieve a play off spot and on that showing, we might as well just take the stress of trying to achieve that play off spot and just go on out there and enjoy ourselves Can’t go up, can’t go down, in fact, we might as well have just given the points to Morecambe (like we did v Burton) at least if they stay up we’ve got another local game
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Post by andyl on Mar 8, 2022 22:43:32 GMT
After an exceptional start with lots of penetrative passing, overlaps and near misses we were treated to 70 mins of mind numbing frustration, Morecambe spoiling and time wasting and some desperately weak and dithery refereeing.
That said he waved on what looked like a penalty to Morecambe. He might not have.
We wasted around twenty minites in idle sideways passing and nearly came unstuck on several occasions. Thankfully only one goal was given away after a terrible backpass.
At times we lost all momentum. Dapo was quiet. Fossey faded- he needs Jones behind him. Johnston's confidence was shattered. Bakayoko had shot his bolt early doors. And as ever our many corners were poor. Santos presented with an easy nod in managed to miss the ball which ran off his back.And then just when all was lost Santos retrieved a ball got it back to Bodvarsson and he placed it well for an undeserved equaliser.First twenty apart it was hard to watch. Momentum vanished after an inexplicably long time out- as it seemed after a foul on Aimson and unnecessary managerial intervention. Terrible refereeing this.Trafford 6 Aimson 5 Santos 6 Johnston 5 John 6 Williams 7 Dapo 5 Fossey 6 Charles 5 Bakayomo 5 Morley 6 Bodvarson 7 Saddlier5
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Post by OohMac on Mar 9, 2022 8:27:56 GMT
Start again by saying im not too downbeat even though its League 1 next season.
Realistically if we did get to the play offs its still 3 hard games to the Championship and the games we play but for a few exceptions are all tight. So yes if we won 7 from 10 and made that 14 wins from 20 its not guaranteed that we'd bulldoze past the likes of MK, Wigan, Oxford, etc. AND if we did it would be such another summer of transition because most of this team are not championship level(never mind squad).
No knee jerk
What Evatt is good at? Hes good at bringing 6 or 7 players in at January and changing fortunes(with players not used to his method)
Whats he not good at? Recruiting in summer to cope with the season. We dont learn from mistakes like hospital balls in our own box. Were really slow to improve in things like set pieces. Tactically I think his "tallest players play" at Burton was shocking but far too many times we seem to either over think opponents.
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Post by davidm on Mar 9, 2022 9:11:34 GMT
Major disappointing result and after the first 40 minutes a major disappointing performance.
Strange team change by the manager. We dominated the game on Saturday, so why change a winning side. Starting Bakayoko was a big mistake. There seems to be an obsession with always making a change – well this was a bad change.
We set off tremendously. Morecambe barely got a touch.
Charles missed a good chance early on and then after a great move he hit the bar. Unlucky but he really should have scored.
Bakayoko just missed after a move down the left and the football was good but no goals.
Then, yet again, we messed up at the back. This relentless passing between the defence failed again as Johnston left a back pass so short that it was an easy tap in for Morecambe.
You could sense the confidence drain out of us. Johnston immediately got in a mess with the keeper and the quality of passing just dropped.
Second half – we set off terribly. Three times in the first 5 minutes, we got caught passing across the back and just survived and then Santos appeared to pull their man down in the box for an obvious penalty but we got away with it.
All semblance of quality passing and movement had now gone and nothing seemed to be changing. Morecambe continued with their niggly, nasty tactics and we could not get past them.
It was crying out for players to try down the wings and get round the back as the defence in front of us was usually 10 men. Afolayan though stayed in the no 10 role. He rarely dribbled past a man. There was little movement. Bodvarsson and Sadlier came on. Sadlier surprisingly passed poorly and it looked an inevitable defeat until the 95th minute.
We got yet another corner, the ball dropped to Santos who somehow pushed it to Bodvarsson to shoot home.
A game we should have won – a game we finished up lucky to get a point – a game that Morecambe most definitely did not deserve to win.
That result, plus the others in the league last night, probably finishes our outside hopes.
There was a lot of good play in the first half. We were not sharp enough.
The manager must stop this obsession with always changing a winning team.
We need to go all out to win our remaining 9 games.
Marks:-
Trafford - 6 Yet again, nothing to do
Aimson - 5 Defensively fine but his distribution is poor. Morecambe effectively let him have the ball because they knew he could do no damage
Santos - 6 Still a mixture of excellent dominance and then silly mistake. Could (should?) have conceded a penalty
Johnston - 4 Terrible mistake for their goal
Fossey - 6 Good first half but couldn’t keep it going in the second half
John - 6 Found decent space on the left
Morley - 5 After a good start, his passing went astray
Williams - 6 Solid enough
Afolayan - 5 This no 10 role is not working. Did he ever get into the box? Did he dribble past anyone?
Bakayoko - 4 Not a starter for me. One near miss but that’s all
Charles - 5 Another game of missed chances. He is always trying though – just needs a goal
Sadlier - 5 Strangely off the boil
Bodvarsson - 6 Took his chance well
Amaechi
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Post by riochforthereebok on Mar 9, 2022 10:02:19 GMT
Ian
Sign Cole Stockton please
If nothing else, it’ll stop him scoring against us
Why doesn’t the interviewer on the BWFC site not go for the juggler with Evatt
Opening comment
“Ian, I think it would have been a great travesty if you got nothing from the game tonight”
I think I might apply for his job as my opening shot would have been
“Ian, please tell 12,000 folk out there why you cannot stick with a winning side”
You can’t keep blaming the methods of the away side. If they want to park the bus, you have to engineer a way through it
Going in to the Plymouth game, everyone should be fired up for that, but given the way they tore us apart on a piss wet through quagmire, playing on a snooker table will more than please the Pilgrims who come off the back of a 2-0 win last night If we win, we might get a sniff, who knows!! Can’t see it meself and these 95th minute equalisers against rank bad opponents doesn’t bode well for us especially when Dion has dried up at the worst time
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Post by realtrottersforever on Mar 9, 2022 10:33:47 GMT
freeze the vid at 0.52. just before their goal. both Santos and Aimson AHEAD of their respective men.
run it on a few seconds to 0.55. both of them lost them !!! both sleeping .
Aimson obviously with greater consequences seeing as his man was Stockton, and he could have dealt with that situation.
ironic playing in an away kit (at home), that we have an away type result, and conceding 1st goal. I was always with Fergie on that away kit thing despite what the media said. marginal gains.
Bookies now got us as 12/1 for the play offs. next outsider Pompey 6/1. half our price. they've got MK, sheff wed, sunderland, and Oxford as all odds on. Wycombe 6/4. Plymouth 13/8, then Ipswich. 9/2.
still think we have the slightest of slight squeaks . pressure off. play own game. need to win 2 of the big head to heads, and maybe beat Wigan too. certainly not impossible. we did have the best goal diff of any team for BOTH THE last 10 or 12 games. players coming back Kacha, Amaechi etc.
27 pts to play for. + 55 pts now. 82 max pts we could make. could afford a loss and a draw and still make 77 pt's. normally that'd easily be enough but looking a touch unlikely now, but we'll see.
like i said in the preview, Morecambe had shipped 2 goals in every away game against the top 18 sides, yet they almost got a clean sheet against us. they'd only previously had 1 away clean sheet all season.
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Post by realtrottersforever on Mar 9, 2022 11:25:27 GMT
Ian Sign Cole Stockton please If nothing else, it’ll stop him scoring against us Why doesn’t the interviewer on the BWFC site not go for the juggler with Evatt “Ian, please tell 12,000 folk out there why you cannot stick with a winning side” You can’t keep blaming the methods of the away side. If they want to park the bus, you have to engineer a way through itGoing in to the Plymouth game, everyone should be fired up for that, but given the way they tore us apart on a piss wet through quagmire, playing on a snooker table will more than please the Pilgrims who come off the back of a 2-0 win last night If we win, we might get a sniff, who knows!! Can’t see it meself and these 95th minute equalisers against rank bad opponents doesn’t bode well for us especially when Dion has dried up at the worst time totally agree on the park the bus thing. Mourinho did it to Pep loads . the ideal way to frustrate a team that wants to walk it into the net. he also couldn't wait to mention the 80% possession thing. groan !!. the more you hold possession like that, the opponent is hardly likely to put 2 guys up front doing nowt. everybody ends up camped in behind the ball making it harder for yourself. Evatt would make a great military tactician wouldn't he... (NOT) !!. certainly doesn't believe in Blitzkrieg . we've got possession...we ain't captured any soldiers, got any cities . all our soliders are sat in a 40 km convoy swigging Vodka out of hip flasks but we're making patient progress. etc Did you see the Morecambe preview vid on the official club channel. first point he makes..."long journey back from Gillingham". . deary me. you're a football manager, move to Belgium or somewhere if you want short journeys. you'd never think he used to manage at Barrow would you, where you're almost at least 2 hr's from anywhere. it's not exactly this one is it : the18.com/en/node/72556#:~:text=across%20the%20globe.-,Zenit%20St.,for%20the%20faint%20of%20heart. Zenit St. Petersburg, located on the northwestern edge of Russia, had the longest travel in the history of league football. A trip from Petrovsky Stadium, where Zenit played to Dynamo Stadium in Vladivostok is not for the faint of heart.
A trek by car traverses five thousand, eight hundred ninety-eight miles, which would take about 126 hours, or 5.25 days on the road.
By air, it’s an 11-hour, 25-minute flight.
A trip via the Trans-Siberian Railway would take six days and seven hours.
It was the Trans-Siberian Railway that carried the trio of Zenit fans home in 2006. Their old Honda broke down once they arrived in Vladivostok to watch their club secure a 2-0 away win.
The fans barely made it home in time for Zenit’s next home game a week later. For their loyalty, Zenit gifted them a brand-new car and put the old Honda on display at the Zenit museum.
So the next time you complain about the length of your commute, be glad you don’t compete in the Russian Premier League.
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Post by davidm on Mar 9, 2022 12:39:42 GMT
freeze the vid at 0.52. just before their goal. both Santos and Aimson AHEAD of their respective men. run it on a few seconds to 0.55. both of them lost them !!! both sleeping . Dead right - Aimson was totally asleep and we would probably not have conceded if he had stayed with Stockton
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Post by riochforthereebok on Mar 9, 2022 13:11:03 GMT
freeze the vid at 0.52. just before their goal. both Santos and Aimson AHEAD of their respective men. run it on a few seconds to 0.55. both of them lost them !!! both sleeping . Dead right - Aimson was totally asleep and we would probably not have conceded if he had stayed with Stockton They were asleep RTF davidm and they should have had more appetite to chase back, but you cannot legislate for the worst back pass in history from Johnston, I mentioned the words powder puff in reference to our showing at Burton and with back passes like that, there’s no accounting for it. Blimey, we should be experts at passing back to the goalie, crikey, we do 80% possession of that sort of pass, you’d think we’d be the best of the best 😬🙄😞
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Post by realtrottersforever on Mar 9, 2022 15:01:49 GMT
Yes, we know Rioch, Johnston gets the main blame, but i've always gone with Lawro's view when he says a good defender should always be a pessimist. Stockton & the other guy,that Santos was marking, both made gambling runs hoping a mistake will be made. as defenders, it's their job to cover & support in case an error is made. if Johnston over-hits his pass, maybe it goes straight into his own net , and that's definitely worse. www.theargus.co.uk/sport/13324688.all-time-albion-xi-lawrenson-on-the-double-act-which-turned-him-and-foster-into-legends/" He was a defensive pessimist. He thought everybody was going to miss everything and, as a centre-back, that is how you have to be.”
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