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Post by davidm on Feb 26, 2022 16:56:28 GMT
Just not good enough.
Daft thing though is that 2nd half MK were no great shakes but we couldn’t up our game.
MK knew how to defend and we shot ourselves in the foot. They also knew the dark arts as well - how many times their centre half was "crippled" I don't know.
But overall, a poor performance
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Post by Pedro on Feb 26, 2022 17:02:01 GMT
Just not good enough. Daft thing though is that 2nd half MK were no great shakes but we couldn’t up our game. MK knew how to defend and we shot ourselves in the foot. They also knew the dark arts as well - how many times their centre half was "crippled" I don't know. But overall, a poor performance Spot on David.
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Post by chip on Feb 26, 2022 17:04:53 GMT
1 Shot on target all game that's poor and I think this could be the end of our play-off hopes but not the end of our season. Stay safe one and all onwards and upwards COYWM
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Post by realtrottersforever on Feb 26, 2022 17:13:14 GMT
blimey, that was bad. only listened to radio comm , so can't comment too much on specifics, but sometimes you get more of a feel for it from the radio. commentator raising voice & excited tone when chances for us...... there was very little of that. hardly a sniff it seemed. they seemed to hold us at arms length.
didn't expect a win, but we said this was a test of our away form. no excuses...no bad weather (morecambe), no poor pitch ( burton) or long throws to face. and you expect to give them a game and put a marker down that away performances were finally improving, and getting more consistent.
shots on target 6 : 1 to them. i'd said in the preview MK had struggled to win by more than a 1 goal margin. they go & get 2 now, and a clean sheet. as David M rightly said in his preview, MK had struggled at home both form wise and going further back, so that give us a bit more hope.
still agree with OM. needed 8 wins from 12, just need 8 from 11 now. and only 1 really tough away game now..Wigan. Cheltenham the other moderate test . luckily 3 of our away games are against the absolute relegation fodder teams...Gillingham ,Crewe and Donny. so even we have a very good chance of beating all of them 3. if we had to face more of the better teams in the lower half 10th to 20th'ish I would have my doubts.
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Post by davidm on Feb 26, 2022 17:26:06 GMT
Another very average away performance – in fact, not average but poor.
We created nothing. Hit the bar from a corner but that was it.
Midfield completely outplayed.
Defence dragged about too easily and the keeper had a day to forget.
I am not one for continually changing the team. I understood Santos coming back but the other 2 changes added nothing to the team. If we have a winning team, stick with it!
We just never got started. Charles was busy but the midfield could create nothing and couldn’t hold the MK Dons midfield.
We were fortunate early on when the defence went to sleep and Twine got through and hit the post – could easily have gone in. We were very lucky.
We went behind when the MK centre half picked the ball up well into his own half and came forward. No-one challenged him so he came further and further and when he got 30 yards out, he shot. It looked a reasonable shot but Trafford pushed it straight back out to their striker who had an easy tap-in. I don’t know if the shot was deflected but it was poor keeping.
And we were second best for the rest of the half until we got a corner late on and either Bakayoko (I think) headed against the bar and they scrambled it away.
Second half, MK were much poorer and I was sitting there thinking if we upped our game that we could get something.
One thing MK were very good at was keeping us away from their goal. We may have had possession but didn’t really get near enough to worry them. We had a couple of breaks on the right but each time the centre was cut out easily.
And then what has been waiting to happen all season happened! We passed about across the back too much and Trafford then tried to find Sadlier but it was a dreadful pass and they got possession and out numbered us to score easily. It was a poor pass. Sadlier though could have been more awake but a dreadful goal which was certain to happen sometime.
That killed the game. MK easily managed the game out.
We were poor. MK were just OK – nothing exceptional but deservedly got the 3 points
On to Gillingham but please Mr Manager pick your best team and stick with it. Stop messing around with the team.
Marks:-
Trafford - 4 I don’t know if both shots were deflected or not but you can’t push shots back to an on-rushing forward or cock up on the passing about at the back Jones - 5 Couldn’t get any combination with Fossey at all Santos - 7 Strong. Seemed intent on knocking the opposition over and got away with it Johnston - 4 He got pulled all over. Lost his man many times and his passing was poor Fossey - 5 Apart from the final 10 minutes or so, he just couldn’t get into the game. No link up with Jones John - 5 Nothing really apart from a couple of good corners Morley - 5 Out-muscled. Williams - 3 Just awful. Very few decent passes and seemed a yard behind everything Dempsey - 4 One decent shot in 1st half but he couldn’t get in the game Bakayoko - 3 He is not a starter for me. His hold up play is non-existent Charles - 6 Very busy as usual. Looked our only hope but he also faded 2nd half Afolayan - 5 Some runs but no final ball Sadlier - 5 Caught in possession to start Lincoln’s equaliser on Tuesday – caught in possession for goal no 2 today. Bodvarsson - 4 Never noticed him
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Post by davidm on Feb 26, 2022 17:36:28 GMT
we said this was a test of our away form. no excuses...no bad weather (morecambe), no poor pitch ( burton) or long throws to face. and you expect to give them a game and put a marker down that away performances were finally improving, and getting more consistent. And our away form came up bobbins again. Yet another away game - Sheff W, Sunderland, Portsmouth, Accrington etc etc where we could have played all night without scoring. 11 defeats away from home is shocking!
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Post by realtrottersforever on Feb 26, 2022 17:51:34 GMT
quick round up on other results :
Wycombe lose again 3-2 to Accy. Mcconville ( of Accy) with another assist. extends his lead in assists table. he's got 13. next best has 9.
Ipswich drop points too. 1-1 to Morecambe. Oxford continue their Kevin keegan style games( score a lot, but leaky ) 4-2 win vs Cambridge. 1 more goal for Matty Taylor there, taking him up to 17 for the season. Plymouth lose too. to Rotherham. so impressive Rotherham. yet another away clean sheet. insane. still 5 away goals conceded all season. again..we've conceded 2/5 ( two-fifths) i.e 40% of that today alone !! Michael Smith with the goal - 18 for the season. sharing 2nd place with Cole Stockton.
Pompey drop points 3-3 with Fleetwood. Sheff wed beat Chartlon 2-0. pretty good defensive sheff wed. another clean sheet for them.
Sunderland beat wigan 3-0 at the DW. finally back on form. 2 pens for Ross Stewart to extend his lead at top of the goal charts - 22 for the season.
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Post by whitesince63 on Feb 27, 2022 14:28:02 GMT
I was out yesterday afternoon so didn’t get to listen to the game (thankfully) or get updates. I was more disappointed that surprised by the result because I still think that was an entirely winnable game. My worst fears about Trafford being another Billy C were well founded with two appalling pieces of goal keeping which ultimately cost us the two goals. I do agree though that their No6 should never have been allowed to run totally unchallenged from his own half and strike a shot at goal, which Crellin, sorry Trafford, fluffed. I still maintain there isn’t a team in this league that we shouldn’t beat but not with the seemingly lack lustre performance of yesterday. We can still do it because anybody can beat anybody in this league but we have to be up to it in every game and Evatt needs to stop trying to be kind to everybody, find his best eleven and bloody stick with it.
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Post by realtrottersforever on Feb 27, 2022 16:10:15 GMT
for those above wanting settled sides, Evatt mentioned the hectic Feb schedule as a factor both post-match and pre-match. i'm glad he did make reference pre-match as it would have seemed more of an excuse just post-match. you can say he's only answering questions but the in-house reporter doesn't ask much the manager doesn't want him to ask, and he's clearly been rotating a fair bit in recent games anyway. personally don't mind a bit of smart rotation, if you've got the squad to do it, and we have. not in key positions like centre backs or keepers. never liked the way DF did it. at one point, if you scored, you seemed destined to be dropped with no chance to build a run of form.
key bits approx 1.35 to the end.
approx 2.45 in the pre-match.
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Post by OohMac on Feb 27, 2022 17:11:08 GMT
Yeah good point and through comments on the mainland ive heard "dont change a winning team" "just pick your best eleven" and "MJ looks knackered. Fossey needs a rest" etc.
No doubt the life of a manager is a tough one when fans want "exactly the same but different".
See Leeds have sacked Bielsa. So all talk of credit in the bank means nothing. Evatt is a lucky man to have this job. I think of those covid games hadnt been postponed he would have gone BUT if Alex Ferguson wouldnt have won that cup game he would be gone and the footballing landscape would be completely different. So run with it Ian.
But please stop moaning about the refs. None are Barry Knight. Unless its Barry Knight the ref cant really stop us winning. Thier first goal looked handball? So what 70mins left to get back in it.
We play to our best and theres not a referee that can change the result.
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Post by andyl on Feb 27, 2022 17:27:43 GMT
Reading reports expected to watch highlights and for once Santos not to be at fault.
Disappointed. Goal three is much more down to him than Trafford. Hits a dozy pass back then stands still and despite Trafford's kick being intercepted and a new attack he remains nowhere near the one forward who is free to score unpposed. On goal one he is lummoxing about in noman's land, watches the shot bounce back and although it's Jones who switches off he remains frozen. On the first clip he misses a challenge and a forward clips a post.
In between times he misses a very scorable header.
We changed the team at centre half of course. In midweek I thought Aimson and Johnston had done well really- much more orthodox marking.. With Santos it's all recovery play. He is good at that but it shouldn't need to be recovery half the time?
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Post by realtrottersforever on Feb 27, 2022 21:38:22 GMT
Yeah good point and through comments on the mainland ive heard "dont change a winning team" "just pick your best eleven" and "MJ looks knackered. Fossey needs a rest" etc. No doubt the life of a manager is a tough one when fans want "exactly the same but different". See Leeds have sacked Bielsa. So all talk of credit in the bank means nothing. Evatt is a lucky man to have this job. I think of those covid games hadnt been postponed he would have gone BUT if Alex Ferguson wouldnt have won that cup game he would be gone and the footballing landscape would be completely different. So run with it Ian. caught a bit of Leeds v Spurs on BT sport yesterday. Hoddle spoke very well. while he rightly acknowledged they've missed Bamford, and Kalvin Phillips with injuries , he said Bielsa was stubborn . he'd watched the midfield several times and couldn't believe the wide open spaces continually being left also mentioned the margins... not just losing by the odd goal or even 2. last 5 lge games 3 shipped to Villa 3 to Everton 4 to Man u. 6 to Liv and 4 to Spurs. unreal sequence. add some more from Dec, 3 to Chelsea, 7 to Citeh, 4 to Arsenal. 1 away clean sheet all season. seen several Leeds fans on twitter strongly disapprove of the idea of BSA to Leeds. the perception thing gets me. just look at Steve Bruce at Newc compared to Rafa. both played similar pragmatic type style. both had similar type results these last couple of seasons, yet Rafa still seemed to make them feel like they'd got a top manager. they'd probably take Rafa at Leeds, just because of the name, when BSA would probably deliver a very similar outcome of defensive solidity & tactical nous & motivation etc . admittedly BSA possibly past it now, ( how many times has he said.. "this is his last job" - didn't he even say that when he left here ? ) i'm really talking about the BSA 5 or 6 years ago.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 28, 2022 16:15:16 GMT
I’ve left it until now to post as it’s took me that long getting off the ceiling 😡😡😡
As I commented earlier on the thread re Trafford
“They’ll also have a ReeMac quality pitch for Dion to run at them with pace Do worry about Santos’s lack of command in the box at times and Traffords Dixon’esque Crellin fails on some of the crosses that enter the box but other than this, I think we should be all good for at least a point at worst, which won’t be the crime of the season”
I know he’s only a youngish lad but come on ‘good enough - old enough’ I also note that we were waxing lyrical only a week or so ago about his succession of clean sheets!! All that was completely undone on Saturday and it was all Traffords fault
You could argue that the defence should be on hand to clear up any weekly parried shots from Trafford or that Trafford must learn to parry them away to safety like better keepers do (what’s wrong with actually catching one in the gloves and the stomach so that it doesn’t rebound to the opposing attackers)
And don’t get me started on keeper distribution🥵🥵 it’s like Gilks has passed on the poisoned chalice of weak kick outs onto Crellin and Trafford. Both are weak as piss with their clearances
That all said, we should have been up for at least a point given our recent run and also that Ian the ‘tinker man’ should stick to a winning side. Why was Dapo dropped for the start of the MK game. Ian should have gone for it with pace (Baka Dapo and Dion)
As a side swipe. Anyone else laughing at Man City’s blatant handball which prevented Everton a penalty/goal and had Lampard sulking? Hope that’s the much needed ‘point’ that sends them down
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Post by Pedro on Feb 28, 2022 17:32:17 GMT
Latest tripe from IE explains plenty - talking about this February: "“We haven’t really trained,” he said. “It is impossible to train, and this is the problem."
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