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Post by realtrottersforever on Feb 16, 2022 11:50:33 GMT
I'm really surprised our aerial deficiencies don't get exploited more. don't think Burton tailored their game to exploit them. think it's just the way they play going off the stats. I like to see good management that does have a balance of ...do your own thing & your own strengths well, but does tailor it to some degree to exploit weaknesses. I always remember watching some random game of Tennis, several years ago, probably at Wimbledon , 2 players i'd never heard of. the commentators absolutely stunned that this player ( possibly Russian ) , kept hitting his shots to his opponents forehand which was known to be strong, instead of the backhand which was known to be weak. he kept doing it , but it kept failing. madness.
Evatt seems to have this attitude that " it's not cricket to play like this..direct, physical etc"..... quotes about moral victors vs Wycombe etc. I'm more influenced by the likes of Fergie who wouldn't see these things as mutually exclusive.. play football vs up for the fight. his teams were always right up for both.
it's not as if you've got to put up with Vinnie Jones or Fash the Bash now is it. can you imagine IE with these ?? Fergie knew you couldn't show weakness to those. much as I hate those louts & thank god the laws have changed to clean the game up, they are a big & useful test for your mental toughness. you have to outsmart them. i'd fully endorse diving against them, if they are going to push the rules to the limits, then i'll do what it takes, to play on that. you're happy to risk a yellow. i'll make sure you get a 2nd one, or whatever it takes.
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Post by andyl on Feb 16, 2022 15:35:55 GMT
That video is a clip to cause nightmares. It's a wonder there weren't more careers ended. In addition to the brutality it also illustrates the bravery of those on the receiving end- a far cry from Neymar or even our own Dapo.
I don't think IE is remotely in the Keith Hill league of post match nonsense. Also I do have some sympathy for managers trying to give interviews 15 mins after a match and then having their words dissected subsequently. IE might do better to waste lest time being outraged with linesmen and opposition managers and more preparing his interviews or making decisive substitutions.
To pursue the tennis analogy I remember once watching a Wimbledon match with Tom Okker and someone, maybe Arthur Ashe who played like this too, where the victor in a hard serving match paced themselves reckoning to win serves and only expend energy on returns when occasionally given a glimpse of a break. Not the modern fashion but faster courts, harder balls. Similarly I'm not too fussed about last night's ten minute debacle and I do not think we were dreadful throughout. It was nothing like before Christmas or indeed often last year. We were on top in the game. Their keeper had to make two or three good saves. We had lots of shots and were quite direct. I thought Bodvarsson ( less so Baka) did well on the ball and at times Saddlier and Dempsey were very good indeed. Had Baka taken that beckoning chance on his favoured foot we would have been right back in it. But all in all we carried two injuries, rested our two best players after Lee and made some changes for the 2nd game in quick succession and did well really in the conditions, at least I think so. I think we could afford to concede that game in order to preserve the forward momentum.The changes ere a risk worth taking with the proof awaiting us next Sat/Tue
A dilemma though is that having at last found our best counter attacking formation with attacking wing backs we have now acquired Saddlier who may in some respects be better than all the others in terms of talent and goal threat ( albeit not defence) so do we break up a team formula. A dilemma. Also will Bodvarsson score or hit better final balls. I rather doubt it this season. Still, we are a whole lot better placed than when relegation threatened. So if it's a year of consolidation and experimentation that's not a disaster when viewed over my sixty one year enslavement.
I do wish though we had bought a proper centre half. There are lots about. Johnston if week aerially is just about OK, but Aimson ( is he better than Delaney) and Santos are most certainly not. They may have some strengths but against strong and forceful centre forwards eg Stockport, Rotheram we'll be kippered aerially and even against average movement our marking is so all over the place that even modestly paced forwards can steal a march. Last week we had the debate as to whether Santos had conceded a penalty accurately. The FA took Evatt's view and I still don't agree but what was he doing when he was front on in no man's land. Lots of examples last night, lolloping back ball watching on the wrong side, blocking his keeper, half turning to avoid a proper challenge, outfought by smaller players and headers going from here to everywhere and decelerating dozy cross field passing. Yes there were some good interceptions and tackles and recoveries but the overall result is that whenever a team counter attacks, as Burton seldom did, watch out and if they can get it in the box we have to hope that keeper commands ( rare) or that someone else maybe a forward does the heading ( and even Delfouneso was beter at defensive heading than Baka and Bod? O for SKD). No it should be the centre halves who scare the xxx out of the forwards and the keeper who shouts and yells and bashes into them if need be. Instead we fight with a combination of the demure and the lummox. It need sorting out pronto. Alas these frailties occasioned the scoreline. but overall I remain of the view we played quite well for most of the game
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Post by BWFCTILIDIE on Feb 16, 2022 16:16:18 GMT
Good afternoon it’s been a long time hahaha Well that was a shock to the system! Poor reffing, poor pitch, poor lineup and seriously poor defending! Glass half full though, one defeat in 8 and I’ll be there on Saturday to watch us stuff the Wombles! Come on you whites!!!
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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 17, 2022 10:12:19 GMT
Good afternoon it’s been a long time hahaha Well that was a shock to the system! Poor reffing, poor pitch, poor lineup and seriously poor defending! Glass half full though, one defeat in 8 and I’ll be there on Saturday to watch us stuff the Wombles! Come on you whites!!! Bloody hell, there’s a blast from the past You been in the nik BTiD
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Post by whitesince63 on Feb 17, 2022 18:00:56 GMT
Good afternoon it’s been a long time hahaha Well that was a shock to the system! Poor reffing, poor pitch, poor lineup and seriously poor defending! Glass half full though, one defeat in 8 and I’ll be there on Saturday to watch us stuff the Wombles! Come on you whites!!! Hey, welcome back mucker, let’s hope this isn’t just a flying visit, we’ve missed your posts. Yes all round poor on Tuesday but surely it can only get better on Saturday? I’m glass half full too and storm allowing, I hope I’m driving back to S.Yorks in happy mode and with 3 more points. I completely agree with most of andyl’s post, I think he summed it up pretty well. We may have more height in the team now but so little fight and rtf’s point about Fergie and his teams and even Fergies predecessors is also spot on. From Nobbie Styles to Joe Jordan, Roy Keane and many more, they’ve had players front, back and middle who’d kick you up in the air. In fact all successful sides do but we have nobody like that, the nearest probably being Spearing when he was here. Teams just aren’t frightened of us and know they can bully us. I will though give credit to Burton for the deliveries on all their goals. They fired the ball in whilst we always seem to float it in, other than from Sadlier, who looks like the set piece expert we’ve been missing? One other weakness for me is Trafford. He was awful at Burton and flopped and fumbled all the game. He’s been pretty lucky and really uncalled on physically to date and Tuesday was really his first big test and for me he just looked like another Billy Crellin. We need some experience and I thought IE would have learned that with the difference Gilks made but clearly not!!
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Post by BWFCTILIDIE on Feb 20, 2022 20:31:21 GMT
Hahaha no definitely not been locked up, just the busy 24/7 joys of running your own business. I’ll definitely nip back a bit more often hope everyone’s well and healthy, all the original guys still here? Great response against Wimbledon and I’ll be in the lofthouse upper watching victory against Lincoln !! COYWM
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