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Post by davidm on Jan 7, 2022 18:46:36 GMT
Eoin Doyle has joined St Patricks Athletic in Dublin.
Who is going to score for us when Charles gets his expected ban?
Hope we have someone lined up for an immediate signing!
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jan 7, 2022 19:05:04 GMT
So very surprised at this
He scored our last goal ⚽️
Our style of play will not get Dion Charles into double figures that’s for sure, and our only other goal scorer of note gives up after 10 minutes when we’re a goal down (Dapo) but if Evatt was bold enough to get Charles a partner, surely we can ask Urinals to loan us that Elanga kid to get him experience
We need goals as goals win games and we’ve just allowed our top striker to go back home!!
I don't get that. If your in to become a professional footballer your in it for the long haul and to be the best you can be and also to play in the best league you can reach, the Irish league is not only an insult to pub standard, it’s jumpers for goal posts league stuff and certainly not the best league Doyle should be in
We are staring down the barrel here, I really feel underwhelmed
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Post by chip on Jan 7, 2022 19:08:03 GMT
I’m sorry to see Eoin leave and it ask more questions than answers about what is going on behind our closed doors at our beloved club. I only hope they know what they are doing onwards and upwards stay safe one and all COYWM
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Post by davidm on Jan 7, 2022 19:16:52 GMT
Surely, we must have another striker lined up to come in immediately?, i.e before Tuesday's match
I hope this isn't a start of an economy drive - our 2 highest earners, Sarcevic & Doyle, gone for zero transfer fee. Why not try and get a fee for them
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 22:00:55 GMT
This could be the start of a new style with either two big strikers or a little and large pair ,it certainly gives the keeper more options when clearing and could stop the me to u game the back four play , what ever happens he got his wish and was allowed to go to the club of his dreams ,all we can do now is say thanks and good luck in what must be the finale stages of his time as a pro .
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jan 7, 2022 23:06:13 GMT
Surely, we must have another striker lined up to come in immediately?, i.e before Tuesday's match I hope this isn't a start of an economy drive - our 2 highest earners, Sarcevic & Doyle, gone for zero transfer fee. Why not try and get a fee for them Big shout that davidm Even Fleetwood have just received £1m for one of their unknowns, so why did we. It get an halfpenny for Sarce and Doyle?? Does SB just sit back and allow CM and IE make poxy decisions at this club??? Just one final thing on Doyle, I’ve not heard one complimentary statement attributed to him regarding his parting with the Wanderers. All I’ve read is him bigging up the team and manager he’s joining Is this another sour exit like Sarce!!! Is Evatt to blame yet again??? |
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Post by whitesince63 on Jan 7, 2022 23:18:03 GMT
Well we pretty much knew this was a done deal, it was just a question of when. The question now is who’s coming in? I can’t believe we’d let Eoin go now if we didn’t have a replacement confirmed and if we haven’t then you have to wonder why the rush. Clearly the rumours about Doyle’s involvement in whatever happened over Sarce has legs, it’s just too convenient. I do get the feeling that Evatt doesn’t like being questioned or stood up to, he seems pretty thin skinned and doesn’t take criticism well. I don’t know whether to applaud his steadfast refusal to adapt his system or take it as stubbornness? If we just swop Charles for Doyle I don’t see much changing but if he was able to add a second goal scorer within his system, it could make all the difference. Let’s hope something happens over the weekend and we may have reason to be hopeful for Tuesday after all?
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Post by OohMac on Jan 8, 2022 9:15:25 GMT
Understand why hes gone, no issue with no fee but dont understand why we're releasing him(for free) without a replacement signed, sealed, ready to go.
Charles hasnt played all season(you know how Evatt feels about that) he may face a ban(wrong IMO) so are we any better off?
Are alarm bells not ringing with Sharon when Evatt has now asked to terminate the contracts of club captain, talisman and sent our young prospect out without securing his services?
Rumour mill is that all fell out with Evatt and his way of management.
First heard about a spat on the Friday or Sarce, a non Bolton friend told me there was an argument and captain has been released. An hour later confirmed. His questions. Was he not playing? Why has he dropped out of the league? No, ever present.
Then rumour was another player also backed Sarce up, emerged that was Doyle.
Vice captain will surely take the reigns as he did when AS was injured? Nope. Brand new captain and pretty much Jan 1st comes round and Evatt makes it clear that Doyle is exiting the club.
As for Politic. We lose AM. Weve been hit by the unluckiest run of injuries, weve postponed 3 games and now face a fixture pile up yet we dont consider bringing a player back into the fold.
And Evatt expects us to eat up this horse manure hes talking. Too good an offer for the player. Arent we all heart.
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Post by whitesince63 on Jan 8, 2022 13:36:33 GMT
Understand why hes gone, no issue with no fee but dont understand why we're releasing him(for free) without a replacement signed, sealed, ready to go. Charles hasnt played all season(you know how Evatt feels about that) he may face a ban(wrong IMO) so are we any better off? Are alarm bells not ringing with Sharon when Evatt has now asked to terminate the contracts of club captain, talisman and sent our young prospect out without securing his services? Rumour mill is that all fell out with Evatt and his way of management. First heard about a spat on the Friday or Sarce, a non Bolton friend told me there was an argument and captain has been released. An hour later confirmed. His questions. Was he not playing? Why has he dropped out of the league? No, ever present. Then rumour was another player also backed Sarce up, emerged that was Doyle. Vice captain will surely take the reigns as he did when AS was injured? Nope. Brand new captain and pretty much Jan 1st comes round and Evatt makes it clear that Doyle is exiting the club. As for Politic. We lose AM. Weve been hit by the unluckiest run of injuries, weve postponed 3 games and now face a fixture pile up yet we dont consider bringing a player back into the fold. And Evatt expects us to eat up this horse manure hes talking. Too good an offer for the player. Arent we all heart. You do sometimes get the feeling that Evatt thinks we’re all a bit simple. The Sarce/Doyle thing, why doesn’t he just come clean with it, we all know there was a fall out so why try to hide it? At the end of the day, like IE or not, like his system or not, he is in charge and stands or falls on results, so has to expect players to go with that and he can’t have dissenters in the squad working against him. I’d have much more respect for him if he just came clean and admitted it. As for our young players, especially Politic and Darcy, if he just admitted that they don’t fit his system, I’m sure people would understand it, even if they don’t like it. Sadly it’s the duplicity and deviousness that is upsetting the fans. We all want Wanderers to be successful and we want to back Evatt to achieve it but unless he’s going to be honest and open, I’m afraid he’s going to lose the faith of the fans, he certainly is with me. The big problem is, if he’s like that internally as well then the players will also lose faith in him and given recent performances since Sarcegate, you’d have to wonder whether that’s already happening? |
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Post by chip on Jan 8, 2022 15:23:46 GMT
I do believe as fans we all want the same thing a well run club with success, but what would we class as success promotion last season yes, to stay up at the very least yes. Now half way through the season we are 4 points of the bottom 4 I don't think we will go down at least I hope not. If it all goes tits up and we do go down do we stick with Ian as he got us up in the first place. What I'm trying to say is how long do we give Ian ? until it's to late or when we have enough time to keep us in the league 1. Difficult times ahead I think onwards and upwards stay safe one and all COYWM
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jan 8, 2022 16:15:25 GMT
Given the perilous position we came from chip (almost administration) I’d say SB and FV should be going all out to push this club onwards and upwards and by backing this manager with his ideas on players formations and tactics makes me think they are happy to babysit this club until a generous buyer comes in and offers them the kind of money I believe, will tempt them to sell
A little bit of me is thinking that all football club owners are of the same ilk and are only in it for a whopping great return.
Perhaps SB is a pleasant and amiable version of Ken Anderson but we all cannot see it other than saying “she’s our saviour” and “she’s one of our own”
League 2 last season was up for grabs and any number of team could have gone up in 3rd spot, crikey, even Evatt almost managed to cock up the promotion party by leaving it until the last game to get promoted, so it was as much a lucky promotion as anything in my view. Evatt is not all that
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Post by OohMac on Jan 8, 2022 17:50:45 GMT
Hypocricy with the Evatt lot on the mainland.
"Ian Evatt won promotion last year, He deserves to be given time. He will turn this around. I have every faith"
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"Eoin Doyle will be replaced. He isnt good enough for L1. We will get better"
Hmmm. So firstly, without Doyle theres no chance Evatt gets promoted. Thats a given. But odd that they've every faith in Evatt a manager brand new to L1 football, brand new to management who is currently 7 away losses on the trot. 1 goal. All cups gone(in embarassing fashion) but for him last seasons efforts has him the freedom of the town.
What am i missing here?
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Post by whitesince63 on Jan 8, 2022 18:51:23 GMT
I suppose that’s also the question for Sharon Chips? At what point does her belief in Ian fade? Everybody agrees that things don’t happen overnight and it takes time to turn things round and often there are bumps along the way but our bumps seem largely self inflicted. We accepted that Ian had pulled off a master stroke getting us up last year following the free signings he made last January but this season the wheels seem to have come off, especially since the Sarce/Doyle situation and now people are asking questions why. We started the season so well and looked to have carried on from last year but then injuries hit and the Sarce/Doyle matter came and changed things. I’m just beginning to wonder if the players are completely on side with Evatt’s system or are losing faith? Time will tell but can FV afford to let us slip back into L2 again? The target was another promotion but at the very least we have to retain this level, so if it seems that might not happen, excuses might not be enough and things could quickly change?
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Post by andyl on Jan 9, 2022 10:16:40 GMT
As I see it we have been spiralling into decline and near relegation since Sarcevic left and Jones was injured. Doyle has played nearly all the games and missed a lot of chances. The same was true in our bad patch last year. With Doyle we were heading back to League 2. Other factors well documented, not least our lack of a centre half and hopelessness at set pieces ( especially Doyle---one near post header in two years) . But it was time for change.
Sarcevic was an in and out player but when he was good he was decisive and exciting, His loss is the one to bemoan and question. And given that being captain and now vice always leads to the exit door Bridcutt, Sarcevic, Doyle I am hoping that the trend continues.
Doyle was an excellent penalty taker and League 2 finisher from close range. Has anyone been offside as much?
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Post by whiteofthesouth on Jan 9, 2022 14:46:24 GMT
I really don’t know what everyone on this board expected. Another promotion? Of course, that would have been fairytale, but, in my view, very optimistic.
I’m pretty confident that our spend on player wages is mid-table, so that’s what we should be aiming for. I also believe that’s exactly where we’d be if it wasn’t for the horrendous injury list we’ve experienced.
We’ve already brought in two promising players and it seems that there are more to come. Last January window resulted in a great run and promotion. My feeling is that this January’s recruitment plus players returning from injury will help us up the table and my prediction would be that we’ll be knocking on the door of the play-off places in April.
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