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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 11, 2021 18:45:11 GMT
Yes I noticed that, look we need to just ride this storm out surely something has got to give. Sadly I think Ian has the safest job in football along with Shrek at Derby so what do we do or should I say can we do ? I'll be there on Saturday against Wycombe but I might give it a miss boxing day with the trains not running. Anyway until then another miserable week at work stay safe one and all COYWM And that’s the thing chip, another miserable week at work and I’ve got to face a Rovers fan on Monday 😡😡 Even the Beeb are having a go at us “ Wanderers have now suffered six successive away league defeats without scoring a goal, and have slipped down the table with just four wins in their last 13 league games”
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Post by realtrottersforever on Dec 11, 2021 19:49:55 GMT
it was bound to happen sometime, Evatt takes a pop at the fans , and for ( at least ) the 2nd game running ( that i know of ), he did not applaud away fans at end of game for their support. Ooh Mac will have a chuckle like me, about that , as he's seen the same things as me about Evatt's character. clearly not one of his non-negotiables, like it is for 99.9% of managers !!
<this one has a far more positive view of IE than me but even he's got his doubts.
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Post by realtrottersforever on Dec 11, 2021 20:49:12 GMT
rare one today. more away fans than home ones. no applause for them from IE though good site for attendances info here. www.footballwebpages.co.uk/league-one/attendancesAccrington have the lowest in the Div with under 3k Sunderland top with just under 30k. bottom 11 all getting 6 k or less. generally the more beatable sides in the Div. Wycombe the exception. again great credit to them. we're ranked 5th, with 15k . www.footballwebpages.co.uk/league-one/attendancesthe figures for Lge 2 are here. 1st bradford with 15k+ even 3rd place only 6-7k Bristol rovers. then from 16th down to 24th, you're below 3k - 24th Salford with barely 2k. that's why it's easier to blow these teams out of the water with a few January signings.
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Post by OohMac on Dec 11, 2021 22:23:26 GMT
Remember Jose would do whatever to deflect performances from his players. Ego has just thrown his under the bus again.
When we lost Tobias Phoenix around a year ago I said that he was the fall guy and that Evatt had no one left to blame. I really think that were at that point now.
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Post by realtrottersforever on Dec 11, 2021 23:28:20 GMT
for anyone wanting a few positives, i did notice our home form was surprisingly decent.
just 2 defeats. and those were to the current top 2.. Wigan & Roth'ham.
4 draws. 1 to MK who are a good side. 3 others were Gillingham, Cheltenham & Burton...so possible dropped points there. 4 wins. 1 to Oxford-who are currently 5th. others to 3 of the bottom 5. shrews, donc, crewe.
crucial times really, as you reach a certain point where either the decent home form feeds through to better away form or the lack of confidence away and nervy crowds "infects" your home form.
I remember looking ahead to this run of bottom half teams and thought we'd pick up a lot. we have at home. done the basics to beat crewe & donny. but really messed it up away.
one thing got to add about lack of run-outs for the kids on the bench. remember those weird cameo's early last season for Amoateng or Lockett ? . 10 mins then never seen again. sure they may not be ready to play week in week out, but young kids often get this huge surge of adrenaline on their debut and play way above their level. we saw it with Joe riley in his classic game Vs stoke. we also saw it in that previous season in Lge 1 when the whole team was virtually kids...Darcy, Politic, Brocky, Graham..young keeper Alexander with a clean sheet on his debut making save after save. the EFL Show punditry for the fleetwood game last week versus us said how their interim manager Crainey had promoted 1 or 2 that he'd worked with in u21's ( or whatever) .
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 11, 2021 23:29:26 GMT
Well thankfully I don’t have to go to any more home games despite my ST because I’m not being forced into signing up for a Covid Passport and I can’t go to away games because I ain’t being forced into signing up to membership. Don’t think I’ll be missing much frankly and I’d rather watch my granddaughter playing for Milmoor girls every Saturday anyway. At least they try to win.
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Post by OohMac on Dec 12, 2021 7:16:52 GMT
Not too sure about it Whites but isnt it a covid passport or a negative LFT result?
I think FV will have a real job shifting those half season tickets and not just becsuse of covid.
Wouldnt post my comments on the main site. Not sure why, didnt have any expletives. Maybe too long.
Pretty much what ive already said on here. Think what happens on Monday at Lostock is probably a meeting where players are shown clips of our great chances we had, a keep it going lads. If we keep playing like that we'll soon start flying up the league. No need to try anything new just keep going.
I know a lot have said that we try and play the city way. I must need glasses or MotD must do a lot of editing because the city i see dont play almost exclusively in thier own half/penalty area. Ive never seen any team play quite the way Evatt does.
If Johnson plays at CB again we need another CB behind him because guy cant win a ball in the air.
But hey remember that we dont deserve an opinion, Marc Iles shouldnt give player ratings because we almost didnt have a club.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 12, 2021 11:14:43 GMT
Love him or loath him (loath), even Boris has a Plan B (of sorts) Evatt has no plan and his dig at the fans and lack of gratitude for the travelling 2599, not only at todays game but also at the Fleetwood game is nothing short of disgusting!! (I’m contrast, think Bruce Rioch making sure Jason McAteer had enough tea in the pot for the cold fans queuing up outside Burnden-that’s all we ask Ian….)
He has somehow managed to turn the celebrations of promotion last term, along with the early season promise in this campaign into a desperate plight, whereby supporters are genuinely worried, not so much for the next win, but for the next goal, or dare I say, for one of his players to show pride in the shirt.
All teams have injuries and suspensions and they get through it but I, along with many others, save for the happy clappers, do not see a way out of this mess unless the owners do something about it. Either back him or sack him!! Personally, I’d rather hope they backed someone else as I’ve seen enough to tell me that IE is very very limited and not up for L1.
I couldn’t give a hoot about the going’s on of the stadium hotel, or the proposed fan zone, but I do admire the passion of our chairwoman and all that she has done for the club (apart from this membership scheme) That said, we are a stable club and miles away from the Ken Anderson era and we don’t have to talk in the language of administration and a ‘club on the brink’ we’ve done all that, but where it matters most, on the turf, it feels like we’re about to send the kids out at against Coventry again, wondering where our next points will come from.
I don’t believe the transfer window will make much difference, not whilst we’re still shopping in the bargain basement and not with a manager seriously lacking at this level. We would need serious investment in players and a new manager to move to the next level and I do fear that FV will be too loyal to the current status. Loyalty is not what we need at this desperate moment in time, we are heading down and fast and drastic action needs to be taken and that means Evatt’s removal.
There’s a fantastic, well supported team here at Bolton and steered the right way, can become a force again, but SB/FV have serious decisions to be made and made sooner rather than later or we will be back playing Barrow again…
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Post by thegrud1 on Dec 12, 2021 11:35:40 GMT
I dont tend to post a lot here,,,BUT Anyone who expected us to get promoted this year lives in cloud cuckoo land Theres a reason we have the players we have.....noone else really wanted them Loans and frees dont get you promoted. the fact is this season is about consolidation not promotion if we finish mid table its a success#That isnt lack of ambition its beinh REALISTIC. Slagging players off doesnt help their confidence#We have all seen worse than this...get behind them As for Evatt he was the bees knees to most fans last year now he,s crap....SERIOUSY?
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Post by realtrottersforever on Dec 12, 2021 11:59:55 GMT
Well he wasn't the bees knees to me grud. Yes he may have got us promoted, but I hated this style of football last year and I still hate it this season. Why does it have to be this way or no way, or in other other words Evatt's way or you're out the doorway a la Sarcevic.
He has proved himself to be unbending in the extreme, not willing to mix up a bit even though everyone can see, including the opposition managers, that if they play a certain way against us we have no answer.
As for loans and frees don't get you promoted, what happened last season then? Half the team was made up of loans and free transfers....admitted some on big wages that just snuck in under the deadline for the pay cap. ie. Doyle, Sarcevic & Baptiste.
And according to Evatt only a couple of weeks ago, we were the best team in the division, and a few injuries don't change that, so what's happened??
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Post by thegrud1 on Dec 12, 2021 12:20:27 GMT
we were never the best team in the league The signings last year were l2 level which has been proved this season at the beggining of the season we passed passed passed.....recently we hoof hoof hoof...to say theres no plan B isnt exactly true...but neither are working we need a mixture of both The actual reason is we dont have L1 quality players and we got a manager who is still learning and all that is down to ...guess what ?? MONEY
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Post by OohMac on Dec 12, 2021 18:49:02 GMT
Dont want to be argumentative Grud but Few things i disagree with "you dont get promoted with freebies and loans" well we did. And we also did with Ken in charge.
The idea of a freebie being a cast off that is released or exiled is not right. Player power means players are choosing to run down contracts now. You can get Mbappe on a free in the summer.
"You have to live in cloud cuckoo land to think we will be promoted"
It was big mouth strikes again that was talking up our promotion chances. Bookies had us about 10th favourites and think that would be par for the course so yeah feel we are under achieving.
You also mentioned that we werent the best team in L2, from Jan onwards we definitely were but often we outplayed the teams only to win by a slender margin. Think of the Morecambe game (against 10 men) we dominated but apart from the stand in LB no one shot and we hung on for a single goal victory.
We were so superior to Cambridge in the last 3 months, they lost thier star striker(on a free) and they are handling L1 better than us.
We are in relegation form and have been since October and even if promotion was pie in the sky we should be better than this.
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Post by chip on Dec 12, 2021 19:28:34 GMT
All ten of our defeats have been to 0 and seven of them 1-0 so it shows just a couple of goals here and there we might have ether won or drawn them so it’s not like we have been battered game in game out. 🤞January could be our savour maybe not promoted or play offs but at least to keep us mid table stay safe one and all COYWM
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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 13, 2021 9:25:46 GMT
Grud I can only afford to live in the here and now
This isn’t Ian Evatt FC, this is Bolton Wanderers I’m supporting and whilst I don’t want to see a new manager in ‘just because of a few bad results’ we are heading back into another crisis if this carries on. He is seriously out of his depth and everyone can see the cracks appearing as he readies himself for his comments before his next defeat
“This time last year we were losing 6-0 to Port Vale at home” WHAT?? That was last year I don’t even want to hear about the Fleetwood game, we’ve lost that, that was yesteryear
What confidence can you give us going forward? Literally …….. When will we score a goal When will we not concede before 20 minutes 6 minutes of added time and we are pissing about with sideways passing Good job Roy Keane wasn’t our manager, he’s have physically laid into each and everyone of them players for doing that
The old saying about ‘if you carry on doing what you have always done, you can only ever expect the same result’ the man’s lost the plot completely and does not have a plan at all.
Sorry Grud, I’m not here to battle with you pal I’m just here passionately voicing my opinion and that is that we are weak, physically and mentally and that is down to the football club manager
Oh and an average 2 shots on target per game is not a winning formula I’m shitting it for the Wycombe game and if Cole Stockton has a blinder, that could be the game that tells us where we are really heading😬😬😬
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Post by realtrottersforever on Dec 13, 2021 11:01:05 GMT
I’m shitting it for the Wycombe game and if Cole Stockton has a blinder, that could be the game that tells us where we are really heading😬😬😬 rftr I pretty much agree with everything you say, except that Cole Stockton plays for Morecambe.
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