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Post by one2many on Oct 22, 2021 11:09:23 GMT
Very surprised to see this rumour. The Mail says that he has had an argument with IE and is offski.
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Post by Pedro on Oct 22, 2021 11:55:22 GMT
And as usual, nothing in the BN and Marc Lies.
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Post by westandlower on Oct 22, 2021 12:02:48 GMT
No great loss if true (never a fan of him). Managers falling out with players to the extent they leave for 2 leagues lower is not a good sign though.
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Post by OohMac on Oct 22, 2021 12:44:37 GMT
Announcement shortly.
Not a team player if hes kicked off at being benched once despite being pretty poor for us in large spells.
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Post by davidm on Oct 22, 2021 13:16:05 GMT
Unbelievable but TRUE!
Sarcevic has signed for Sockport on a 2 and a half year deal.
Santos new captain - not Doyle?? Odd!
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Post by one2many on Oct 22, 2021 13:18:02 GMT
It's official and in the BN. Wierd. Wonder what is in it for us? A decent salary off the books? A transfer fee? We have competition in the midfield, but not especially in that attacking midfield role.
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Post by realtrottersforever on Oct 22, 2021 13:19:52 GMT
Manchester Evening News states it's a done deal.
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Post by OohMac on Oct 22, 2021 15:06:22 GMT
Club captain, almost ever present, injuries building up and releasing him to future opponents in a few weeks time.
If it was just a new challenge i would have thought that we could have agreed and 1st Jan shook hands and parted with ready made replacement lined up.
New captain. Not the vice captain Doyle who did het the armband in AS's absence last season. Santos instead.
I'm sure theres the usual non disclosure forms signed but would think they cant be that naive. "Good luck off you pop"
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Post by thegrud1 on Oct 22, 2021 15:13:20 GMT
without any info...my thoughts....this must have been approved by manager board and owners...so ill give them the benefit of the doubt
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 22, 2021 17:41:19 GMT
No great loss for me and I actually think it could be very positive for us in that it gives IE a chance to pick a new No10. Sarce hasn’t been good this year but always seemed to be picked, other than Tuesday. Was he really not fully fit last Saturday when subbed or was it the start of whatever problems there were? I think Sheehan would be better there anyway or why not try Dapo in the role to see how he fares there? We have options although I do accept it leaves the squad light but could we not recall Politic from Port Vale?
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Post by riochforthereebok on Oct 22, 2021 18:27:46 GMT
Shocked at the timing and shocked that he was our captain and he’s decided to leave all that, League One football to drop so low?? Strange choice I’d say and strange decision Isn’t he from Stockport?? Family etc  I mean, how can Stockport afford him and why did he not stay in league football rather than drop into the Conference Looked far too overweight at times and his contributions were few and far between Seems a bit unfair really, calling him after he’s left us, I’m not really calling him I’m just stating facts and perhaps he wasn’t even injured when Evatt left him out of the Plymouth game. Aimson and Sarce must have desperately wanted to feature in that game and Sarce almost scored but ther in lies the problems, he almost scores every week but falls short. Sounds two faced saying no major loss, because you could rid us of every player, save for Dapo and Dixon and say no major loss Tomorrow’s result must be a MUST NOT LOSE game as yet again, I cannot see us scoring COYWM ⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️ |
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Post by andyl on Oct 22, 2021 18:30:44 GMT
I presume a serious argument with manager. Very odd and a crazy choice appointing Santos as Captain after his last performance and ahead of Doyle. Santos the Silent? Ricardo the Unready?
What price Doyle to leave?
Hints at significant man management issues-not usually club captains this happens with. I suppose it was a bad miss.....
On to tomorrow
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2021 19:09:34 GMT
It is possible that he has been driven away by constant moaning in the press colums by some of the younger end, did'nt IE ask people not to get onhis case recently , on the other hand it may be that Div one is to pacey for him and thinks that lower divs will be easy and he will be the club star
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 22, 2021 21:57:47 GMT
There’s clearly been a big fall out which both Sarce and the club considered too big to mend. In that situation there’s only one winner and Sarce had to go. Like others I’m amazed that Sarce has dropped down to the level he has but clearly to sign for two and a half years, must mean it’s acceptable to him. I wish him luck, I’ve only gratitude to him for being a major part of our promotion last year but there’s little question that he looked nowhere near as effective this season and I don’t think we’ll miss him that much. Obviously it weakens our numbers but I think we still have enough to get us through to January in a good position in the league, when we can strengthen for a promotion push.
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Post by OohMac on Oct 23, 2021 5:45:55 GMT
Keep thinking in all 92 of league clubs in England the player angry at being dropped/not being picked argument must happen on a weekly basis. But I cant ever remember instances where its lead to a termination/free transfer.
Usually the player would refuse to drop down in level or a manager owner would refuse to lose an asset.
Most of the time it would get resolved and the player would buckle down, or they would move on in a window.
Its odder still that this isnt Comley or Delfouenso who arent in the team. This was ever present captain.
Ian said he had a "Hefty" ankle injury after the Wigan game. At the time I said BS because why play him when we do have a bit of cover. If its hefty you leave him out to recover. Now i'm over analysing it was it a barbed comment from IE. Did he think Sarce was over playing his injury and let that out to belittle Sarce? Did AS then take the bait and speak out.
You dont quit a club for not playing in every match(he even came on after an hour)
AS has commented on insta that its a brutal world, which puts it back in Ians path.
As an owner though Sharon must sign off on it. Isnt she thinking he's the captain? Hes played every game? Hes scored a few important goals this season (winner at Lincoln, screamer v Shrews) hes still got a contract? Why are we letting him go?
Its fairly easy to say "anyone who doesnt want to be here, theres the door" it just cant work in football. Its too ever changing. Last weeks hero/this weeks villain and vice versa. Most squads have 2 players per position minimum and most footballers have egos therefore youre going to get disgruntled players at any point of any season (you cant just leave or give them away).
In my opinion when we signed Sarce I thought we were getting a dynamic, skilful, flair player with a Lampard like knack for goals. He did in fairness score a few important goals, often late in games but my overall impression was slow, cumbersome, couldnt pick the right pass out final decision was lacking and couldnt get himself fit enough to be anything other than good in patches. Mainly a 5/10 player.
But even I wouldnt have given him away without bringing someone, who can score, in. And Ian obviously didnt see Sarce the same way I do as hes played him every other time and openly spoke out on the topic.
Biggest question now is what that does to the dynamic of the team. When you lose a squad you lose your job whether your Conte or Mourinho or anyone else. I hope that 100% of the squad saw Sarcevic as the wrong party. If theres any rumblings that it was unfair or unprofessional then this could be very bad for Bolton and probably the long goodbye for Mr Evatt.
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