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Post by OohMac on Sept 28, 2021 8:53:13 GMT
Take away the Ipswich result and you have a run of games where Bolton are huffing, puffing but getting picked off. Losing at home to Rotherham, Sunderland, a stalemate at Burton and and loss to Cambridge who we were miles superior to in the last 4 months of last season. In isolation none of the games are anything to panic about. A loss tonight. A 0 for tonight and those questions will land at Evatts door.
Most of the time ive said as many have Evatt expects to name an unchanged team for the first time i get the sense that fans(not through injury or international duty) are saying "i would change that".
Truth is the bench is so weak I cant see many changes that give rather than detract. John if fit should come in. Isgrove, for me, injured or not should sit a few out.
I want to say I want to see this and that but lets face it. Travel away from Sunderland on Saturday, London on Tuesday doesnt really give a lot of time at Lostock.
So maybe the changes will be forced only for this game and then win, lose, draw i'd like to see more bows to our game. Would like to see stronger set pieces and actual changes to games not like for like changes at set times.
A win keeps us in the race, a decent points total with the tough games weve had. A loss and the season becomes a bit mediocre. Mid table but on the downer.
See a 2-2 draw.
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 28, 2021 9:24:44 GMT
I don’t disagree with a lot of that OM but to be fair to IE, we’ve created more than enough chances to have won all those games, we just haven’t taken them. I do blame Evatt for that because he insisted, despite most fans disagreeing, that we didn’t need at least one more competent striker, when it was obvious that we clearly did. People are resting their hopes on Baka when he’s back, despite the fact that he’s got no goal scoring record to count on and neither has Kachunga, other than a few for Huddersfield over one season. I fully accept the limitations on finance but had he concentrated on one quality players wages instead of two or three like these plus Comley, Tutte and Delfouneso, he could have more than afforded someone better. Equally, he concentrated on recruiting centre halves leaving us with a surplus who can’t get in the side. I know we need cover but surely the most important part of any team is scoring.
If you don’t score you don’t win and we’re highlighting that fact perfectly. Clearly we can’t substantially change personnel before January so IE has to find a way to get the goals we need. Just watching the same misses every week and expecting it to change itself seems naive in the extreme. We have no cutting edge, even listening to other teams fans they concede that we are a terrific football team but they also state that we’re weak up front. That should tell IE something and like I said on another thread, if we can’t sign players, let’s try working with the ones we have to make them more productive by getting in some proper striking coaches or past players to help. I’d start by playing someone up with Doyle, maybe even Dapo but certainly Baka when he is fit, or try moving Rico into midfield to capitalise on his strength, speed and skill. It’s not working Ian so just keeping things the same is not going to cut it. As for tonight, I still think we’ll win assuming we do finally find the net so I’ll go for a1-0 to Wanderers.
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Post by chip on Sept 28, 2021 11:10:18 GMT
Unfortunately I'm unable to watch this one as I'm at the Leeds Arena watching Genesis so I will have to wait until I get outside to check the score. The 9 games we have played to date have all been winnable as none of the teams have played that well to deserve there win I.M.O. it's been our lack of goals and stupid mistakes that have cost us our 3 defeats. No team apart from MK Dons have looked like beating us I know that sounds stupid but you know what I mean. It's not all doom & gloom or negative we just need a change of fortune in front of goal. Still 2-1 away win finger's crossed onwards & upwards stay safe one & all COYWM
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Post by davidm on Sept 28, 2021 11:39:43 GMT
This match has turned into not necessarily a must win but definitely a must score match.
I came away from the Stadium of Light on Saturday utterly amazed and, obviously, disappointed that we hadn’t scored.
The number of half chances was ridiculous.
On to tonight, I expect John will return and Kachunga will replace Isgrove.
I would love to see players other than Doyle and Afolayan have efforts on goal. We moan about Doyle missing chances, and he certainly did on Saturday, but he gets into position to attempt whereas the midfield doesn’t really.
Anyway confidence has returned – if we play anything like Saturday we will win so I go for a 2-0 win
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 28, 2021 11:42:43 GMT
RiP Roger Hunt
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 28, 2021 12:00:53 GMT
I don’t disagree with a lot of that OM but to be fair to IE, we’ve created more than enough chances to have won all those games, we just haven’t taken them. I do blame Evatt for that because he insisted, despite most fans disagreeing, that we didn’t need at least one more competent striker, when it was obvious that we clearly did. People are resting their hopes on Baka when he’s back, despite the fact that he’s got no goal scoring record to count on and neither has Kachunga, other than a few for Huddersfield over one season. I fully accept the limitations on finance but had he concentrated on one quality players wages instead of two or three like these plus Comley, Tutte and Delfouneso, he could have more than afforded someone better. Equally, he concentrated on recruiting centre halves leaving us with a surplus who can’t get in the side. I know we need cover but surely the most important part of any team is scoring. If you don’t score you don’t win and we’re highlighting that fact perfectly. Clearly we can’t substantially change personnel before January so IE has to find a way to get the goals we need. Just watching the same misses every week and expecting it to change itself seems naive in the extreme. We have no cutting edge, even listening to other teams fans they concede that we are a terrific football team but they also state that we’re weak up front. That should tell IE something and like I said on another thread, if we can’t sign players, let’s try working with the ones we have to make them more productive by getting in some proper striking coaches or past players to help. I’d start by playing someone up with Doyle, maybe even Dapo but certainly Baka when he is fit, or try moving Rico into midfield to capitalise on his strength, speed and skill. It’s not working Ian so just keeping things the same is not going to cut it. As for tonight, I still think we’ll win assuming we do finally find the net so I’ll go for a1-0 to Wanderers. Some great points there W63 If Ian Evatt wants to increase his stock for the higher placed teams or to get his current team up into the echelons of Championship and Premier league status, he’s going to have to find a ruthless streak not seen before and begin to wield the axe on his ‘friends’ and also accept that his recruitment of Kachunga doesn’t look like it’s going to bare fruit Don’t get me wrong, from where we’ve come from ‘embargo - almost administration’, it’s remarkable that we are here even signing players and adding to our squad at all, so I don’t want to knock the tremendous progress the club have made, but we are where we are and in my view, that is a very stable and well respected club in League One and of course, not one to be feared, so now is the time to push on and start from where we are by looking to heavily invest in the January window and also shift out the stragglers that W63 has mentioned Another tough game tonight although there seems to be an air of invincibility from some that we will win tonight Nigel Adkins is a decent manager at this level and has just managed a couple of draws in their last 2 games. The other big point being that Charlton are scoring and we are conceding I’ll take nowt for granted but hope for a win COYWM ⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️ |
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 28, 2021 18:59:16 GMT
For Gods sake, what was Baptiste doing there? Thanks Ian for dropping the man of the match on Saturday.
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Post by OohMac on Sept 28, 2021 19:04:01 GMT
Rioch from the Sunderland thread...
M K Dons 22
Wimbledon 20
Oxford 11
Cambridge 16
Ipswich 5
Rotherham 18 & 21
Sunderland 17
Time when conceded first goal
Come on Evatt, sort this out
Please
Well add another 12 min goal. All seem to be basically the same goal. Easy ball in and an unmarked striker there for an easy finish. Now we can pass it around get stats up and moan about how we dominated.
Ian its all about goals. Get better at stopping them, get better at scoring them. I'll be honest ive got huge question marks about Evatt still. Get a load of flack but guy doesnt want to learn. Still a novice Evatt. Pep lite.
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Post by andyl on Sept 28, 2021 19:41:17 GMT
Strange. Our ills are all self inflicted. Some awful passing and turnovers. John struggling badly.
Kachunga some neat touches with head and foot but horribly unfit and mainly inconsequential.
Dapo is our only real threat. This is a game to deploy the left footed and box to box Thomason to fill that huge chasm in and around John.
Credit to Dapo but so much short - substitutions critical. Game is there to take but we are so vulnerable
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Post by Pedro on Sept 28, 2021 20:28:16 GMT
Ho ho ho! 1.3 "Bolton playing with a swagger now". This is more like it. Missed the first half.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 28, 2021 20:46:56 GMT
Top second half performance a Wanderers
Great win but PLEASE quit with the early conceding as better teams will get more confidence from them
COYWM
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Post by andyl on Sept 28, 2021 20:52:19 GMT
What to say now! Firstly replacing Baptiste and John really stabilised things.
Full marks to Lee and Williams. We are a lot more solid in their midfield hands and their strength was probably the reason we withstood a period of pressure and broke for a lead. That their best player on the night got injured also secured us.
Despite what I said earlier Kachunga seemed to find energy defensively and his general neatness was quietly influential. Not a right winger but ok. Nearly an excellent headed goal.
I can't help feeling we need to get to a point where Doyle and Sarcevic are bench options. Sarcevic was very much in the battle tonight and he scored an excellen glory goal after one good shot but I still think that Lee Sheehan Williams and Thomason should feature together at times.
You can see we have something to offer and that was an attritional victory of merit. So to be celebrated.
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 28, 2021 21:01:49 GMT
Yep, can’t disagree with most of that Andy though I might take issue on Kachunga who seems lightweight and lacking in nouse. He did show some flashes but not enough to convince me he will make a difference for us. Let’s just hope that tonight makes IE realise his mistake in splitting Lee and MJ in midfield and instead trying to force Sheehan in there. Sheehan is far better forward of that and should fight for the ten shirt with Sarce. Its understandable giving Baps a start but again I think it confirms Rico and Johnson to be the best pairing. I thought Jones was again outstanding against tough opponents yet still got forward to put in some excellent crosses, particularly the one for Lee’s equaliser. MoM for me though was Lee who just seemed to be everywhere. So, same again on Saturday and we’ll be cooking on gas again. Oh, and Wiggin lost ;-))
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 28, 2021 21:07:10 GMT
46 goals scored tonight in League 1
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And we got 4 of them. COYWM ⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️
That Sunderland 5-0 result makes our 1-0 defeat to them a little less of a bother and any Wigan defeat is cause for happiness
We’ve a lot to be hopeful for but it would be nice for a striker to score for us again
COYWM ⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️
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Post by davidm on Sept 28, 2021 21:07:43 GMT
What a result!
Strangely, I thought we played better on Saturday at Sunderland.
The defence had a few non-marking moments when Charlton players were totally unmarked in the box whilst, until late on, our attack was quiet.
But we won so well done.
Baptiste was badly at fault for their goal with a poor pass out of defence. This is where the Evatt style of playing out falls flat when we make such a bad pass out of defence. Mind you, we still should have made a better job of defending the subsequent attack.
John was having a nightmare against their winger so I was pleased to be reaching half time at only 1 goal down. Until Afolayan, who had been frustrating me, did his thing and shot home from the edge of the area.
So half-time at 1-1 was OK.
Second half, I expected us to be full of confidence from the late goal but, again, Charlton posed as much of a threat as us. They surprisingly moved their winger who had terrorised John onto the left wing which made it easier for us.
So I was still thinking that a draw was OK when suddenly with about 20 mins to go, we took over. Kachunga and Jones worked well on the right and, at last, a cracking centre from Jones found Lee on the penalty spot for a good shot and goal.
Charlton then missed a good chance when a long ball caught both Santos and Baptiste out. Baptiste got the wrong side of their man who lobbed the ball over Dixon and just wide. So fortunately still ahead.
Afolayan then did a good run, his shot from within the box was deflected straight to Lee for a simple tap-in.
Sarcevic finished it off with a good run onto a wonderful pass from Lee.
So 4-1 – what a result.
Marks:-
Dixon - 7 Little to do other than pass to Santos & Baptiste
Jones - 7 Great centre for the 2nd goal
John - 5 Had trouble 1st half with their winger
Baptiste - 5 Bad pass started the move for their goal and got caught in 2nd half
Santos - 7 Strong.
Williams - 7 Usual effective play
Sarcevic - 7 I thought he was a bit iffy but then scored a wonderful goal
Lee - 8 2 goals and an assist
Afolayan - 8 Good goal and, as usual, scared the opponents
Kachunga - 6 Better than lately but I am still not sure
Doyle - 6 Little service
Gordon - 6 Did well when he replaced John
Johnston
Delfouneso
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