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Post by OohMac on Apr 14, 2021 17:39:25 GMT
Just a little message to try and ease some nerves. A lot of fans still looking over our shoulder rather than ahead. 2 points off top and 4 in front but I guess the joy of winning a league pales in comparison to not going up.
Anyway 4 points doesnt sound like such a great margin but its huge. 5 games left and these are teams that are tripping up left, right and centre.
Morecambe are averaging around 1.67 ppg in the last 6, around the same in the last 10 and over the season down to 1.61 so if the next 5 play out like this then they will get around 74 to 75 point mark.
Yes but they will up thier game for the last 5? Yeah or maybe they will be a bag of nerves. Or maybe they will accept they have 3 more Playoff games and not go hell for leather. Ive not seen anything from Morecambe to lead me to think they will take max points.
If we win on Saturday we will go to 73 points. Another home win at Carlisle and we go the The Bay already ahead of that projected points scored.
Grimsby a banana skin? All games are different but face it we're 41 games in. The cream rises. The league doesnt lie and to be bottom of the whole pyramid says there are problems there. Striker and Postman(Morais) at logger heads on Saturday 1 sent off, Morais subbed off. Dont get complacent but just be confident that they cannot live with the likes of Dapo, Isgrove. Thats the time for Dapo to really open his account with us. Make this game easy.
So my first thought was we needed 9 points. Yes we need 10+ to be in a shout of winning the league but 6 points should see us back in League 1 and 5 games to do it.
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Post by andyl on Apr 14, 2021 19:21:06 GMT
This is quite an interesting link. Fairly supportive of argument.. 3 wins needed probably?
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 14, 2021 19:54:52 GMT
I’m nervous, very nervous, based on the fact that we’ve not pulverised any team this season, we’ve just done an Arsenal on many occasions (1 nil to the Wanderers) and when you’re only doing 1- nils and staying on the back foot from the minute we go in front, it doesn’t bode well for my nerves
Grimsby have had a few surprising results and drawn a fair few in the last 10ish games, so we really need to go at them from the off, something we never do.
I’d love to know where our first minute goal will come from and where our first 4-0 win will occur??
They’ve been beaten 20 times this season, shedding almost 60 goals, scoring 30
Maybe this hammering will be dished out at Blundell Park this Saturday, maybe🤔🤔
Morecambe will score v Oldham but Oldham are no mugs at the moment and Keith Curle has been getting a tune out of them and they are also one of this leagues highest scoring teams (64) second only to Exeter (65) but with Oldham, sadly, they’ve shipped 68 goals but on a positive note they’ve just scored 9 goals in their last 2 games, so it’s not going to be plain sailing for the Shrimps and I can hopefully see a draw so let’s hope the Trotters do their bit and we might be able to stroll to the title under no pressure
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Post by OohMac on Apr 14, 2021 20:03:30 GMT
3 wins is 9 plus the 4 already ahead= 13 points from 15 for Morecambe.
2 wins gives them 10 points to catch a 2 points per game target. Again pretty ambitious. And thats assuming we lose 3.
2 wins 1/2/3 draws = 11,12,13 points to get from 5. Again over 2pts per game.
If one of those draws comes at Morecambe it makes it almost impossible for them to make that with few games.
Dont worry i wont be doing the team talk but simple message look forward not backwards. Think if we could leapfrog Cambridge and use them as a buffer it would it a big psychological boost.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2021 20:44:40 GMT
One game at a time I just hope I don’t have to go for a walk on Hucknall bypass biting my finger nails on the last game of the season onwards and upwards stay safe one and all COYWM
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 15, 2021 7:14:06 GMT
I have to say that at the moment I don’t feel any nerves at all. That is, no nerves before the games because I feel that we can beat anybody we play, home and away but during games is different when we suddenly shift into slow, slow mode and almost panic to retain a one goal lead. I think we have to accept that we aren’t going to win big against anybody this season because apart from not having a lethal striker, including Doyle who should be double the amount of goals with the sitters he’s missed, we have a fairly laissez faire attitude in the rest of the team.
It isn’t just the Salford and Newport games we’ve squandered easy, early chances to win games, we’ve done it all season even with a poor side. We seem too nicey nicey and don’t have a killer instinct, so one goal is enough then only risk it if you have to. IE said before he came here that when his Barrow team went one up, they wanted two, then three and actually you could see that in his teams mentality but sadly he hasn’t brought that here. That said, I don’t worry about the team not getting promoted, what they do have is a mental strength and togetherness that sees them through games, even God forbid, Delfouneso at Salford, throwing himself into blocks near the end when he came on. I’ve criticised him all season for not getting involved so maybe I have to take something back. No, I’m not worried at all about not going up because I have absolute confidence that this team, whoever IE picks, will get the job done for us.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 15, 2021 9:25:59 GMT
I remember listening to Jim White on Talksport back in August 2019 I think it was and it was a bit weird listening to the show as they were almost having a competition, running the clock down to see which club would go first, Bury or Bolton
Bolton, ranked 47th in the world of European Football back in 2008 (Man City 86th Dortmund 109th) and here we were, wondering what the town would be like without a football club.
Jump forward to today, the leagues favoured side to gain promotion automatically, begin the poorest of starts to the league campaign that anyone would have predicted, to getting to the brink of automatic promotion to League 1
I wouldn’t say I was one of Ian Evatt’ fiercest critics, but I’ll not say I favoured him in the job as his early football was off the planet in the most negative of ways, it’s far from the most entertaining today, but I have to take my hat off to him, he must have something about him that managed Barrow over the line to league football status and to erode the memories and disasters of the last few years out of our system.
I shudder when I hear the names Phil Parkinson, Ken Anderson, Burnden Leisure, Dean Holdsworth, Keith Hill, Laurence Bassini and the moment we had to field a side of young lads, which was to their amazing credit that they carried the name of Bolton Wanderers with dignity and pride and must never be forgotten for that. Not forgetting, of course, Covid and no supporters for one whole season - let’s hope this FA Cup having 8000 supporters can be the start of a new beginning for getting fans back.
Quite the contrast to today’s names of Sharron Brittan, Football Ventures, Ian Evatt, Eoin Doyle, promotion,
COYWM let’s do this⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️
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Post by OohMac on Apr 15, 2021 12:43:30 GMT
When Evatt turned up here he said the negativity had to go and this is sort of what he means. We need to go into this 5 games not thinking "what if we slip up" but "theres plenty of points to be won"
For us to not up means two things happening. 1. A team below going on a run and showing a level they havent produced all season. And 2. A disaster run from us. Again theres absolute no form to suggest this will happen. That "we always make it hard for ourselves" spirit needs to change.
The only defeat weve had was probably underserved and however bad we've played weve found a way.
We may not have Blake, McGinlay and blitzing 4 nil displays but we have an efficient system that just doesnt lose games. More often finding ways to win regardless.
My sights set firmly on Cheltenham. Really dont want that lot winning the league.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2021 8:52:40 GMT
I'm sorry but I'm very nervous that we might end up with nothing and another season in the bottom shelf of football all because we don't seem to be able to score goals at the moment but what do I know I'm only a fan onwards and upwards stay safe one and all COYWM
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Post by OohMac on Apr 18, 2021 12:53:45 GMT
Yeah it is very nervy now because its in our hands but Morecambe can say that too...one will be wrong.
But my point was still I dont see Morecambe as a 5 wins from 5 team. There was no evidence for that and I think there will be one matchday with a twist. They will fail to win 1 maybe 2 remaining games. We need to make sure we win those.
We win Tuesday and we go into that crunch game ahead of them. Either by 1, 2 or 4 points.
Weve not been a team, since Jan, that goes 2,3 or 4 games without a win. So still think the task at hand is 2 home wins, 1 away draw and set Morecambe a target of 8 or 9. We can squeeze them further by getting a point minimum at thier place.
IF we win another 7 points and still in playoffs then its hats off to them for thier run.
If we draw, lose or pick up 6 points then that must come back to Ian Evatt as that would be a failure.
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Post by OohMac on May 9, 2021 21:05:40 GMT
I was wrong. It was nervy and Morecambe proved me wrong by being top of the form table winning 5 from 6 and left wondering if a moment of petulance has cost them promotion.
We will never know what would have happened had it been 11v11 then again if we needed to beat Exeter that may have been different too.
Anyway i'm sure some fans wont care about L2 play offs. I am intrigued. As often the case form means nothing but a lot of respect for Morecambe(less for thier manager) who really pushed us.
Tranmere the panto villains.
Personally dont want to see Newport progress, awful pitch not L1 worthy.
Forest Green - awful run, cant see them doing it but lot to like about that quaint club.
Morecambe deserve it really but lets wait and see.
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Post by whitesince63 on May 10, 2021 8:00:32 GMT
I think the only ones who’d survive in L1 are Trashmere and to be fair to Keith Hill, I’d like him to succeed if not his horrible club but personally I hope it’s Morecambe, they are the most deserving.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2021 9:09:26 GMT
I will admit I went shopping with the wife and I'm so pissed off I did but all's well that ends well. I will be honest at Christmas I hoped we could make a push for the play-offs but as momentum built slowly with the new signings at the end of January we then went on a fantastic run of results with the usual Bolton stumble against Colchester, Newport, Grimsby & Exeter the team smashed Crawley on the last day. So pissed off Shrek never got Derby relegated as I hate him with a passion. Onwards & upwards stay safe one & all enjoy your Summer see you all in August TTFN COYWM
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Post by riochforthereebok on May 10, 2021 10:00:08 GMT
I will admit I went shopping with the wife and I'm so pissed off I did but all's well that ends well. I will be honest at Christmas I hoped we could make a push for the play-offs but as momentum built slowly with the new signings at the end of January we then went on a fantastic run of results with the usual Bolton stumble against Colchester, Newport, Grimsby & Exeter the team smashed Crawley on the last day. So pissed off Shrek never got Derby relegated as I hate him with a passion. Onwards & upwards stay safe one & all enjoy your Summer see you all in August TTFN COYWM Why the sudden name change Chip?? Well, what a season that was😬😬😬 Hope fans are allowed back into stadiums in August proper. What a season, what an ending Some of them 1-0 wins were just tedious to be watching and yet after the first 10 games, we were 19th on 9 points, same as Trashmere, with Cambridge and Cheltenham 2nd and 3rd respectively, Newport were top and looking the real deal I’m finally offering full credit to Ian Evatt and Pete Atherton and of course FV Whites Ltd Things just seemed to look up when that Tobias Phoenix was ousted and the dropping of Billy Crellin. Some really tough decisions have to be made for next season and the time starts now COYWM ⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️ Let’s take League One by storm
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2021 11:19:02 GMT
Just thought a change is as good as rest and I think we all need a rest after this season onwards and upwards stay safe one and all TTFN COYWM
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