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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2021 10:41:02 GMT
Now that it's established that Fleetwood, sans manager, have just signed another goalkeeper, they now have five on their books, it looks unlikely that Crellin will be leaving any time soon.
So, it's Gilks for now, Crellin as sub and Matt Alexander nowhere in sight. Alexander out of contract at the end of the season, so it's unlikely that he will feature. Does he even get game time anywhere?
Gilks is insistent that he gets back to coaching according to the BN, but he's in there until we have a new signing or, he's injured.
A case of bad management? I think so... We'll have Gilks, Crellin, Alexander and a.n.other, if we sign one.
I see Gilks back to coaching, a.n.other first team Crellin bench and Alexander in the wilderness.
We'll be giving Crellin money for old rope and he's not even ours. Poor lad, career in tatters methinks, along with Alexander. Blame Evatt!
Who's available as a goalie in this window?
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Post by OohMac on Jan 14, 2021 13:10:11 GMT
Gilks has gone great for us in net but a little presumptuous that he will go on and take his place as a goalkeeping coach at Bolton. He probably will as hes Evatts mate but Evatt doesnt pay the wages and FV may ask whos call was it that Crellin came to be number one. Gilks. Who's job is it to prepare and improve the young prospects? Gilks.
So add a third question of what other experience have you got as a goalkeeping coach Matty? Not much. What makes you think Bolton is the club for you learn as you go?
I dont know if FV want to get involved in that side. I guess TP was head of all things footy but say for instance Michael James has contact with Jussi and Jussi mentions hes keen on the role and to boot will get his lad to rejoin too. Two birds, 1 stone and approval of most nostalgic fans.
At some point FV are going to have to challenge Evatt and make some decisions that are tough for him to take.
If we can sign three more players this season i would prefer two strikers and left midfielder. Goalkeeper 4th simply because of the emergency loan(though id have to look into that in more detail)
Youre right though Fleetwood and Blackburn wont take Crellin and White back and pay them for doing nothing when weve agreed it. So they will only go if those players agree to become free agents and rip up thier deals or another club come in? And say another club do come in still got to convince L2 players to drop either out of the league. And does non league football even take place or will that be abandoned.
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Post by whitesince63 on Jan 14, 2021 19:14:16 GMT
The fact Fleetwood signed another keeper and didn’t call Billy C back probably shows how little faith they have in him. If we have to keep him and pay his wages, as it looks we will, what about taking him on if he’s out of contract in the summer? To be fair to him, he must have shown promise and probably just needs to get his confidence back. Having looked back on many of the initial mistakes they were largely down to Evatt silly roll out system and even Gilks is struggling with it because we just don’t have the players to play that way. Maybe with a better defence and allowed to make his own choice on distribution he will look completely different. I’m not overlooking his weakness with high balls but if Gilks works on it with him, there’s no reason he couldn’t improve on it. Just a thought.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 13:49:36 GMT
tbh, whites an' Oom, when I think that Crellin was the No.1 keeper and no sub on the bench it stank (?) of bad management. We were lucky insofar as Crellin not being injured in a match.
Now we have the goalkeeping coach as No. 1 and a rather insecure No.2 on the bench, with Alexander without a game and certain to be released at season's end, imo.
Looks like we'll sign a.n.other in this window and who knows who that might be? Will it be Gilks, or Crellin on the bench? Will a.n.other be a star, or a dud?
Not exactly the confidence needed for a side wanting promotion, is it?
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Post by OohMac on Jan 15, 2021 15:16:03 GMT
Some Bolton fans foam at the mouth when they hear Crellins name. In truth Crellin is now back up reserve keeper - so hes where he needs to be.
If we get another keeper the question would not be is he better than Crellin, he needs to pass Gilks. Let Gilks retire(squad spaces) and keep Crellin where he is. If there is an injury look to bring in emergency loan.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 18:56:33 GMT
Some Bolton fans foam at the mouth when they hear Crellins name. In truth Crellin is now back up reserve keeper - so hes where he needs to be. Not exactly Oom. The club were looking to send him back, but as you know that's not on the cards. You don't need a liability at the club, never mind on the bench. He's had his chance and has proven that he is not up to it. Sorry for the lad, bt that's the business. Do you have any info on Alexander... if he has a game somewhere? |
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Post by OohMac on Jan 15, 2021 20:51:42 GMT
Some Bolton fans foam at the mouth when they hear Crellins name. In truth Crellin is now back up reserve keeper - so hes where he needs to be. Not exactly Oom. The club were looking to send him back, but as you know that's not on the cards. You don't need a liability at the club, never mind on the bench. He's had his chance and has proven that he is not up to it. Sorry for the lad, bt that's the business. Do you have any info on Alexander... if he has a game somewhere? Well think Crellin will be a sore point for many but hes still the same lad who represented his country at youth level. He should never have been thrown in and left in so long. As for sending him back, what exactly does that achieve? Hes not a liability on the bench. When he played we didnt even have a keeper on the bench which further shows 1 keeper is generally enough for a season. We've seen a talented young propsect lose all confidence playing in a side when not ready. Some people think the answer to this was to throw in a younger, less experienced keeper in because he played 1 or 2 senior games. Come on. Alexander is being developed the way he should be, Crellin has been let down. Point remains i have no issue with Crellin sitting on the subs bench. Where he should have been from the start. |
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Post by whitesince63 on Jan 15, 2021 21:40:22 GMT
Except that he takes up a spot that a proper keeper should have OM. As if the lads confidence wasn’t shredded already, the fact that his home club doesn’t want to take him back, especially after what’s happened, can only make things worse for him. We all know he wasn’t ready and we all know he was kept in place too long, probably because Gilks wasn’t up to the fitness required but he must have shown promise for the club to bring him in in the first place. Management probably thought he would be able to handle the L2 level but clearly that hasn’t been the case. It doesn’t though, mean that he doesn’t have potential so we may actually be able to “pinch” him from Fleetwood if management feel he can deliver in future and Fleetwood don’t want him. In the meantime, we do need to replace him for next season, whether he stays or not. Of course, Fleetwood may yet take him back if they see potential in him, so let’s see what happens. Either way, I doubt he’ll play again for us this season, whatever happens.
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Post by OohMac on Jan 15, 2021 22:06:17 GMT
Again to strip it down.
Whats the worst thing with Bolton at the moment? Whats stopping us from getting to play offs? What HAS to change?
Our sub keeper? Really. Bigger fish. Get two strikers in. Get a left attacking midfielder and let Crellin do his Sudokus on the bench. If Gilks gets injured we can use the Emergency.
Worst case scenario Gilks gets injured mid match(a scenario Evatt didnt care about when he named no GK from 7 earlier and as a one off Crellin can go in goals. Super John managed it i'm sure Englands U20 keeper can.
End of the day i'm no Crellin fan. If we sign a new keeper i cant see the point of it being as a No2. And if Crellin stays im not fussed as long (as Le Fondre comes back)
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