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Post by realtrottersforever on Oct 21, 2020 14:37:08 GMT
well, Cambridge are top . played 7. won 5. lost 1.
scored 18 goals. 10 lge goals to their striker Paul Mullin who's the topscorer in the Div. so he'll be one to keep an eye on.
the bookies seem to think their position is a bit false. they AREN'T in the top 6 faves to win the lge . they are 7th faves. and we're joint 11th. we started the season 1st or 2nd faves.
they seem quite a direct side. 18th in table for possession. & 3rd in the rankings for "aerials won" .
our defence is still very worrying. 2 goals shipped vs Oldham. 3 vs Barrow & these are bottom half sides. issues all over the place. keeper making errors. Baptiste not liked by many fans & clearly at fault 1 goal v Barrow & partial blame for another. personally i'm not as down on him as others... i'll take his defending over Santos most days. even the fairly dependable Delaney has looked a bit more shaky. and left wing back position is up in the air . might Taft or Greenidge get a chance ? who knows.
prediction : i'll go against all the above evidence and say 1-1.
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 21, 2020 21:35:15 GMT
I thought we were gradually getting it together after the first 5 minute debacle at Barrow and I’m hoping the lads can carry that on ar Cambridge. In particular Sarcevic scoring may just lead him to be more assertive in games where previously he’s been slow and ineffective. Likewise, in 5he second half, Comley suddenly seemed to spark into life and appeared to be playing further forward rather than sitting back. Kioso and Gnouhea are both aggressive and powerful and can impose themselves on games. I particularly like Santos going forward and hope that Evatt also notices this and let’s him operate there. Moving Brocky wide left leaves me bemused, I don’t understand that one at all and wonder who we do have who can fill that role. I’d like to see Greenidge given a chance because he has both pace and no little skill from what I’ve seen and he’s also a better defender than Gordon. I just don’t know what to expect score wise but another draw wouldn’t surprise me so I’ll agree with your 1-1 rtf.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2020 0:40:50 GMT
Well, we've taken 4 points off the two promoted non-league teams and a point off Grimsby, who were in isolation up until the Thursday before the game.
Have we turned a corner after playing the mighty Barrow? Cambridge seem to be an in-form team at present so this should be a good test.
Not sure whether you two are playing it safe and sitting on the fence with a 1-1 result, but they've scored 18 goals and only conceded 4, so they have stats we can only dream of. Scunny is the lowest placed team they have played and the others mid-table and up.
I'll go for a 3-1 loss. Cambridge are a healthy 11/10 against considering they're top. w/BWFC and the draw 12/5 on Bet365.
Which way you going rtf? That Cambridge price looks tempting.
I usually have a flutter on 4 or 5 team accies and one team has always let me down. nothing big, just $1 bets. Keeps me occupied in lockdown. Beats the lottery for entertainment value.
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Post by one2many on Oct 22, 2020 9:17:14 GMT
We will get tonked. Cambridge will get at least five.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Oct 22, 2020 9:22:58 GMT
4-1 to United
Loving your enthusiasm W63
Having read the BN comments on the Match Reaction after the scrape of a draw compared to the actual comments on the live feed, I’ve never seen so much two faced’ness in my days
‘Turning point’ 🤔🤔 (as Jim Royle would say.... my arse)
It seems to me that those pre season flukes were simply that, flukes which have only gone on to highlight Evatts luck in management. One minute Barrow the next minute Greavesie, Riochs and Big Sams Mighty Bolton Wanderers I mean, you cannot get more luckier than that!!
Come on people, we ARE Bolton for heavens sake, 7 league games this bloke has had as well as the EFL Cup and the EFL Trophy which is another 3 defeats. He’s had 10 shots at it yielding ONE single win and that were fortuitous to say the least. 10 goals scored 16 conceded 1 win 7 defeats And 3 more defeats coming up in Cambridge Bradford and Orient Sorry, but if I’m on my own here then so be it, but Ian Evatts ‘football brand’ is not for me and he has to go.
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 22, 2020 9:23:14 GMT
Not playing it safe at all wots, just saying it as I see it. Cambridge might be top and they’ve done well but I don’t believe there’s a team in this league that can live with us if we perform properly. So far we’ve been miles off that but I’ve seen gradual improvement for certain parts of every game despite results and I expect that to continue. Obviously I don’t expect it all to come together overnight and that’s why I’m going for only a draw. I think both Sarcevic and Doyle will benefit greatly from their goals and with Kioso and Gnouhea clicking now and Comley at last showing he can be constructive playing further forward, I can see results changing soon. I saw an effort to move the ball forward much more quickly against Barrow and I just think that had we not made such an unfortunate start on Tuesday, we would have won comfortably. My only concern, well two actually, are Crellin and IEs insistence on playing Baptiste. Crellin just looks an accident waiting to happen and though he may be a decent shot stopper he has no domination of his area at all and constantly plays out from the back to players already under pressure. Unless he can do it safely he should be instructed by Evatt to hit it long. As for Baptiste, I think had Evatt not moved Brocky, he would have avoided the second goal and maybe even the first. He has absolutely no pace and is a complete liability in my opinion.
Other than that I still think we’re missing a midfield ball winner/stopper, someone like a Nobby Styles or even Fabrice Muamba, who I never thought got the credit he deserved. We have plenty footballers but we have nobody to break things up and run the midfield. Obviously we can’t sign anyone now and I’m not sure we have anyone like that in the squad so we’ll have to make do with what we have got. Maybe IE will sort that in January and hopefully also the keeper situation. I’d thank Crellin but send him back and recruit a more experienced and dominant head, even if it did have to be an Alnwick or Howard. I think if we attack teams more it will prevent them from pressurising our defence and we will see a different outcome. Nobody can account for mistakes but if we are scoring and leading in games it will take much of the pressure off the defence and everyone will benefit. I hope so anyway, hence my 1-1 forecast for Saturday.
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Post by realtrottersforever on Oct 22, 2020 10:56:26 GMT
Well, we've taken 4 points off the two promoted non-league teams and a point off Grimsby, who were in isolation up until the Thursday before the game. Have we turned a corner after playing the mighty Barrow? Cambridge seem to be an in-form team at present so this should be a good test. Not sure whether you two are playing it safe and sitting on the fence with a 1-1 result, but they've scored 18 goals and only conceded 4, so they have stats we can only dream of. Scunny is the lowest placed team they have played and the others mid-table and up. I'll go for a 3-1 loss. Cambridge are a healthy 11/10 against considering they're top. w/BWFC and the draw 12/5 on Bet365. Which way you going rtf? That Cambridge price looks tempting. I usually have a flutter on 4 or 5 team accies and one team has always let me down. nothing big, just $1 bets. Keeps me occupied in lockdown. Beats the lottery for entertainment value. I tend to go double chance... so i've gone Cambridge or Draw. like you I do low stakes. just aim to win the bets and accumulate that way slow and steady. and if I ever felt i was doing well enough..up the stakes a bit more. never really reached that point ! generally been in small positive territory, but considering we've been quite predictably bad, this season hasn't gone well...i'm in slight negative territory. I think I got a bit mis-led by the bookies themselves, as even after the poor start ( 3 or 4 games in), they were still having us as 2rd or 3rd faves for the lge title. once we were 2-0 down at Barrow, i tried to get on Barrow..but the odds changed at the last min, and it just wasn't worth it. so that was a lucky break, and my "Bolton or draw" bet miraculously paid out. i'd love to see some of these "keep the faith" brigade that Rioch talks about having the courage to put THEIR OWN HARD CASH where their mouths are. talk is very cheap for those types !! . just a reminder folks... Oldham have 1 win in 7.. we gave it to them. Barrow have 0 wins... we came within a whisker of handing them theirs too. Colchester have 2 wins.. again 1 to us. the only real counter argument to that is Harrogate have 1 defeat, and we gave it to them.
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Post by westandlower on Oct 22, 2020 11:45:13 GMT
Watching the City game last night, it seemed to me that they were playing the system Evatt claims we are playing. Our forwards and midfield are statues by comparison with the way City's players moved into space to receive. We are much too static to play that way. There's no cohesion in the side. I cannot see us improving the league position until Evatt admits he's got the tactics wrong or that the pakyers just cannot perform the way he wants them to - so with heavy heart it's a 3-0 loss for me.
The bright spots from the barrow game were Gnahoua and Kioso. Delfouneso was ok for the first couple of games but has not been as good for the last 2 or 3. Gnahoua was much more of a threat than Delfouneso has been recently and should keep his place. Kioso is the stand out player in our team the gulf in class is huge.
Sarcevic still looks unfit for me - runs out of steam very quickly, poor ball control and little influence on the team. Crawford is our main creative midfielder but his fitness only gets him through about 60 minutes. Darcy had about 15 minutes during which he only seemed to touch the ball for corners and free kicks. Several failed to find their target (overhit or hit too low and cut out by first defender. Play at that time was a bit frantic though so give him more time by subbing him on for Crawford after 60 mins.
Defence is a nightmare. I recently saw Evatts initial description of Crellin after he signed saying he commanded his area. What year was that because it's not been true this season. He has good reactions but his judgement is poor, he doesn't come for crosses, punches rather than catches - needs loads of coaching until we can swap him for someone else in the next window. Where are those lightningly quick defenders Evatt promised? Hickman looks the quickest to me but don't think that was who Evatt was describing
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Post by realtrottersforever on Oct 22, 2020 12:50:49 GMT
"I recently saw Evatts initial description of Crellin after he signed saying he commanded his area" possibly here WSL, lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2020/10/19/21522969/opinion-phoenix-nights and you're quite right to point out yet another of this growing collection of Evatt's porkies...after yesterdays ridiculous claims about Barrows 3rd being 3 yards offside etc . Santos being extremely quick still gets me. we're still yet to be 100% clear on Greenidge's pace. one short run he did look decent. but one other where he chased someone back from the halfway line, he looked well short..but we're still unclear if he was totally fit/ carrying an injury seeing as we haven't seen him in league action before or since.
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Post by kenglowhite on Oct 22, 2020 14:06:22 GMT
I actually thought part of the reason for our recovery against Barrow was down to the reintroduction of long ball tactics. If you can't do it by pure football, why not invite mistakes in control from your opponents' ability to control the ball and create more second balls, where physicality comes into play ( it is the fourth tier), and that may justify Crellin's long kicks, though nothing justifies his failure to control his goal area. He isn't strong enough for that yet, and that is why I suggested someone like Ruddy a couple of weeks ago. I don't know if he is/was available. but I look for a big strong experienced defence organiser. 63 again talks of the need for a holding defensive midfielder, and I have no hesitation in saying that Riley gave me every indication of being able to fill that need in his appearance at Shrewsbury. Jude Bellingham filled that role at Birmingham City last year and earned himself. at the age of just over 17, a £20 million plus transfer to the Bundesliga. Put Riley alongside Comley and see what happens. (Comley has been cutting a rather lone furrow so far}. Rather than proposing to send Adam Senior out on loan he should be filling the right back position , alongside Brockbank in the back three. I also think Darcy well capable of contributing more than Crawford has in recent games. I also like Gnahoua....quite a good dribbler. I know full well Ian Evatt is not quite on song with my suggestions at present, and unless he uses the material at his disposal somewhat more wisely I feel unable to forecast more than a resounding loss on Saturday, but as always I live in hope, in which case I would predict a draw, and hope that when Derek Wright says at our corners -"the big men have all come it for it" there is greater success, as usually that heralds a quick break and a goal for the opposition,
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2020 15:23:22 GMT
I actually thought part of the reason for our recovery against Barrow was down to the reintroduction of long ball tactics. If you can't do it by pure football, why not invite mistakes in control from your opponents' ability to control the ball and create more second balls, where physicality comes into play ( it is the fourth tier), and that may justify Crellin's long kicks. Agree ken and also with West and Lower's description of our static players. My feeling is that we don't have the skills, mentally and physically to put Evatt's ideas into practice. They're probably playing the same tactics at Barrow and quite rightly are about the same league position as us. The tactics may be right, but the players are the wrong fit. Division 4 football is full of mistakes thro' lack of concentration. You're correct, applying the pressure directly to the opposition gives us a chance at their inability to control the ball and we can make use of the second ball. Parky wasn't far out, it's just that he kept with the same tactics, as Evatt is doing now.
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Post by davidm on Oct 23, 2020 18:41:46 GMT
I think I need to check whatever I am eating/drinking (not smoking!) because after every match I write something like “rubbish”, “shocking” etc and then when the next game comes around I am back to 100% positivity and expect a win.
I look at the teams in this division and think that we really only have to perform half decent and we will win.
We haven’t reached half decent yet this season but tomorrow? Maybe.
We obviously need to be stronger at the back and play as a unit. This includes the keeper who needs to dominate his defence and catch the ball decisively.
Midfield-wise, we need Crawford (if picked!) & Sarcevic to up their games to a higher standard and then feed balls into the box for Doyle who showed on Tuesday that give him a chance and he’ll score. Kioso will do this so central midfield need to buck up.
I presume that Delfouneso will come back up front instead of Gnahoua and I would hope that Baptiste is rested with Brockbank back on the right side.
I would find room for Darcy to start (Crawford on the bench) but as long as we play positively I am hopeful.
We will concede so it’s a 2-1 win for me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 20:17:45 GMT
Cripes david, you must be on something strong. I'll say to all those with a positive scoreline, put your money where yur mouth is. We are playing a form team folks and their top scorer has scored more than our lot put together.
Last I looked we were 12/5 against, for the draw too, which are good odds if you've been drinking what david has been.
If we win this match, I'll show me backside in Wooly's front window...
I think Evatt has been drinking the same too, he's on a positive spin...
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 23, 2020 21:53:02 GMT
Well I’d speak to the manager at Woolies then wots because like David, I think you might be needing his window tomorrow 😏
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2020 7:42:55 GMT
Unfortunately I will miss today’s game as I’m travelling up to John O Groats fingers crossed for a win hopefully not get thrashed. Stay safe one and all COYWM
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