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Post by realtrottersforever on Sept 19, 2020 15:33:23 GMT
plenty more objecting to Ile's ludicrous "dominance "comment.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2020 15:56:11 GMT
Just to add to the stats rtf. Full time and we lost 2-0. Stats shown on Sportinglife are 64/36 in our favour.
Bring Parky back. Stats would be the other way round with hoofball, but we may win 1-0. lol
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Post by Alptrotter on Sept 19, 2020 16:02:39 GMT
Evatt said in the week that he could see what wrong against FGR and he knew exactly how to fix it. God help us if that was his solution. He moans about a losing mentality. The best way to avoid losing is to organise your defence properly. For me, we look shapeless, clueless, ponderous, lacking in concentration and wholly lacking in guile. A very poor squad selection today giving himself no alternative from the bench. It's too early to judge, but it's a desperately disappointing start. I would recommend less self serving blather and boast and more work on defensive organisation.
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 19, 2020 16:05:43 GMT
For all of you who didn’t see the game and are busy making derisory comments, let me tell you that we were all over them in the second half but we’re yet again let down by an appalling piece of defending. Baptiste was far too slow in turning, our left back was nowhere to be seen and as for Crellin, what the hell was he coming out for when he had no chance of getting to the ball? Overall we looked good today, far more fluent, controlling the game but still no real threat up front. I’m so much more positive following this performance than I was the awful one last week. It won’t be long before it gets and we’ll be off and running but we really do need to wake up at the back.
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Post by davidm on Sept 19, 2020 16:08:50 GMT
That was so poor.
There is no way we should have lost that game but slow ponderous defending plus a strange acceptance that we only need 1 man attacking did for us.
60% possession but of that 60%, 90% of it was in our own half. Just Crellin to Baptiste to Santos to Crellin and back to Baptiste and so on
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Post by davidm on Sept 19, 2020 16:10:31 GMT
For all of you who didn’t see the game and are busy making derisory comments, let me tell you that we were all over them in the second half but we’re yet again let down by an appalling piece of defending. Baptiste was far too slow in turning, our left back was nowhere to be seen and as for Crellin, what the hell was he coming out for when he had no chance of getting to the ball? Overall we looked good today, far more fluent, controlling the game but still no real threat up front. I’m so much more positive following this performance than I was the awful one last week. It won’t be long before it gets and we’ll be off and running but we really do need to wake up at the back. How many shots did we have in the second half, whites? We are passing for passing sake and getting nowhere. Anyone got any idea what position Delfounesco was playing. Certainly not as a striker.
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Post by andyl on Sept 19, 2020 16:10:40 GMT
There goes £10 I won't see again. Serious questions now re Messrs Evatt and Phoenix.. We have recruited a team with little attacking prowess. Doyle and Delfouneso, even if the latter made a solid start, contributed nothing and again Doyle mishit his one chance at 1-0. At present neither is offering the sort of aggression and confidence you would think they might offer. We also have no idea how to stay on side when it matters, witness Baptiste's disallowed goal and lots of other circumstances
I thought that in general we played better than last week but with no confidence and no ball carrying capacity. Baptiste was a dreadful signing and watching him outpaced for the second goal was depressingly familiar and that came after our only decent patch in the game.
There was nothing in the first half although they carried more threat. The goal from a knocked on corner was an embarrassment with Santos ball watching. He looks another poor signing. If you haven't seen it when you do you will see a perfect socially distanced goal. Despite the fact it went on from the edge of the goal box no defender was within two or three metres of the unopposed scorer
Hickman offered some kind of threat on the right and contributed a handful of crosses. We had nothing on the left where Gordon and Comley were anonymous. White was neat enough but just kept possession and went back and across most of the time.
When we went into lockdown there were hopes that Politic and Darcy might shine at this level. The injury is costing us dear and quite why Darcy is not featuring is a mystery. Were Lockett and Mascoll really further up the pecking order.
There was enough possession and patches of decent play to suggest we will garner a few points as we go along but it's obvious already that we will not be challenging for promotion. Good teams are built on defence and we haven't got one.. I think that Jones for the second week running was just about our best player until he faded but with Santos and Baptiste behind he really hasn't much chance.. Maybe Delaney and Brockbank or even Zouma will oust them. In fact I still recall Zouma and Edwards v Coventry last year- light years better in defence than what we are putting out just now and it's losing us every game.
Crellin 6 ( one good save, one good catch, one good clearance) Jones 7 Santos 3 Baptiste 2 Comley 4 Gordon 4 Crawford 5 White 5 Delfouneso 4 Doyle 3 Hickman 6
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Post by kenglowhite on Sept 19, 2020 16:21:39 GMT
Even though we're playing from the back(too much so far imo) we.re just not ready for the long ball, which seems to result from our forward players failing to press, with out defenders too slow to see what's coming. Up front we're promising till it comes to delivering a telling ball, or using speed to go at a packed defence.That is how we lost the crucial second goal after having all the play till then in the second half. Our set pieces are so far not good enough to produce the required finishes. I think it's too much to ask Baptiste to pivot our defence. He doesn't seem physically strong enough, though he made some good contributions at times. Marc Iles told us to expect a lot from Gordon, but he is not decisive enough in defence or attack. Delfouneso was our best hope in attack, but even he failed to deliver for Doyle. The last time we were asked to be patient while Wanderers played it out from the back was in the Greaves-Mulhall reign early 1980s. It seemed to click much earlier with the players then, but they were special players I recall.
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Post by davidm on Sept 19, 2020 16:30:10 GMT
Better than last week’s dismal performance but that is not a team out there.
Colchester did little to warrant 3 points but our lack of attacking ideas and our now regular wretched defending killed us.
We had most of the possession but it was all so deep. We rarely got into the Colchester area at all.
We conceded from yet another bit of sleeping from Santos who just did not mark from a corner.
The second goal was just a big boot out of defence where the forward easily outpaced Baptiste and Crellin rushed from his line only to be lobbed.
This performance was deeply concerning. Yes, we had loads of possession but it was a case of just passing the ball around with no idea how to actually score. And defensively we are rank bad and will always concede.
I couldn’t understand the subs at all. As Andy says is Lockett a better option than Darcy?
Marks:-
Crellin - 4 What was he doing for the second goal? His rush out of goal made the Colchester players mind up and gave him an easy lob. Other than that, it was OK.
Santos - 2 Asleep asleep, asleep – yet again. He may well be able to take the ball from the goalie and pass it to Baptiste but for god’s sake do your job and mark the opposition.
Baptiste - 2 Much too ponderous. Skinned for the second goal.
Gordon - 3 It is hard to see what he contributes. Attacking wise he gets upfield but nothing comes from it.
Jones - 5 Did some decent attacking down the right.
Comlyn - 3 Both he and White played as defensive midfielders and there were hardly any positive forward passes from either of them.
White - 3 See above
Hickman - 5 I thought that he added something to the attack.
Crawford - 3 For everyone shouting for him to play, what did he do? Just anonymous.
Doyle - 4 Again no service to him but he had a couple of half chances that he messed up.
Delfouneso - 4 What is his position? I assumed he was a striker but he plays so deep, he is never in the box so Doyle is on his own.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2020 16:32:11 GMT
There goes £10 I won't see again. The goal from a knocked on corner was an embarrassment with Santos ball watching. He looks another poor signing. If you haven't seen it when you do you will see a perfect socially distanced goal. Despite the fact it went on from the edge of the goal box no defender was within two or three metres of the unopposed scorer I've never taken you as a comedian Andy, but that comment made me laugh out loud, if you intended it, or not. It was worth 10 quid just for the laugh. Maybe you can get a credit, like whites did. Sorry, I'm on pension and I don't have it to give.
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Post by OohMac on Sept 19, 2020 19:04:14 GMT
Just to add to the stats rtf. Full time and we lost 2-0. Stats shown on Sportinglife are 64/36 in our favour. Bring Parky back. Stats would be the other way round with hoofball, but we may win 1-0. lol I wouldnt bring Parky back if he came with a cure for covid.
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Post by realtrottersforever on Sept 19, 2020 19:36:42 GMT
For all of you who didn’t see the game and are busy making derisory comments, let me tell you that we were all over them in the second half but we’re yet again let down by an appalling piece of defending. Baptiste was far too slow in turning, our left back was nowhere to be seen and as for Crellin, what the hell was he coming out for when he had no chance of getting to the ball? Overall we looked good today, far more fluent, controlling the game but still no real threat up front. I’m so much more positive following this performance than I was the awful one last week. It won’t be long before it gets and we’ll be off and running but we really do need to wake up at the back. How many shots did we have in the second half, whites? We are passing for passing sake and getting nowhere. Anyone got any idea what position Delfounesco was playing. Certainly not as a striker. www.whoscored.com/Matches/1486826/Live/England-League-Two-2020-2021-Colchester-Boltonthe match centre of this had us down as 3412, which surprised me as Iles on radio Manc said we were 4231. the match report on that same site tells the real story..with average positions... Iles proved right on this occasion. Hickman playing on R on that attacking line of 3. Delf on Left. Crawford in hole...Doyle up top . positives at least we seemed to pass it better, and we also got the team upfield more imposing ourselves onto them. just 2 defenders in our half ( average positions ). time will tell whether this is a wise strategy given their lack of pace to get back. positives in the team selection too with Hickman deserving a start, and Crawford. the negatives... 2 league games played. no clean sheets. no goals scored. lost last 6 games if you count pre-season friendlies. and no clean sheets obviously in last 6. confidence can't be at the highest levels, and there seems a lack of leaders on the pitch to give a bit of direction , guidance & the odd rollocking .
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 19, 2020 21:37:07 GMT
I still think despite the blatantly obvious issues, we were much, much better today. We tackled better, passed better and are starting to look like a team. I really am surprised and disappointed at the negativity and criticism on here because I don’t think it’s justified. I’m sure Ian Evatt knows the problems he’s got but he has to find a way of working it out with the players he’s got because he’s stuck with them, like it or not. I think we need to remember what pool he’s fishing from for players with the embargo and wage cap. He did well to get Doyle, Sarcevic and Delfouneso as well as confirming Crawford and Darcy but the rest are complete Unknown’s and from what we’ve seen may stay that way. It will take time for the players to get used to each other but I saw more of it today, not enough obviously, but more cohesion. Once the team gets more comfortable I think they’ll start to click up front and once they do I’m sure Doyle will start to fire. As for Darcy, I just can’t understand what Evatt is doing with him, it was crying out for him in the latter stages today and he must have been gutted not to get on. If Evatt is playing mind games with him, I hope he knows what he’s doing because otherwise he could end up ruining a real potential talent.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 1:47:52 GMT
I like your optimism whites, but it isn't reflected in the other posts.
Evatt said he knew what was wrong after the last game and how to fix it. He didn't.
I said before that this league is tough and we will be doing well to be on the edge of the playoffs.
I appreciate the difficulties of rebuilding from scratch, but he's the one that built the confidence of the fans pre-season. How many season tickets sold if we waited after these last two games.
Build on the defence and go from there. My feeling is he's building from the front and we haven't scored in the last two league games. Not kept a clean sheet in...
We play Harrogate in two weeks time. He'll have to fix it by then. Otherwise confidence on and off the pitch will be eroded.
note to Oom. The Parky comment was tongue in cheek.
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 20, 2020 7:52:08 GMT
Wots, why shouldn’t we be optimistic, we’ve got a professional ownership, a bright new manager and a team full of new young players. As you say everybody knew it was going to be hard bringing in and putting together a whole squad of players who’ve never seen each other, don’t know how they play, don’t know their attitude and as importantly, trying to play a system they have never played in before. I’m optimistic because yesterday for the first time they started to actually look like a team. I accept they look weak up front, I accept there doesn’t seem to be that calm head controlling midfield, maybe Sarcevic will do that when he’s fit again but I saw enough yesterday to give me optimism. It was disappointing I agree and especially how we gave the goals away but IE will find a way to stop doing that. To be honest, if I was Sharon or IE, I’d think well what a bunch of ungrateful, unrealistic feckers, pack up and leave us to it, especially in the current situation. I agree with you about IE claiming we’d win the league, that was probably a little immature but come on, at least he’s positive unlike his totally negative predecessor and anyway, who says we won’t win the league?
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