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Post by realtrottersforever on Sept 12, 2020 16:01:55 GMT
Shockingly poor.
I can't find any positives at all.
Why was Miller not on the bench, I can understand IE not wanting to rush him into a full game, but surely he could have used him as an impact sub. Why was Crawford not in the team from the start.
IE had told us that Greenidge was an absolute speed merchant, Marc Iles said he was faster than road runner.....not off today's evidence he wasn't, just go and look at approx 65 mins into the game and see whether you think he's fast. He lost the ball just inside opposition half and then started the chase back and never got any where near the guy ( & we all know it's harder to run with the ball than without !)
Sarcevic looks like he's carrying about 2 stone too much weight and isn't mobile enough to be playing in the role IE has given him.
Doyle must be wondering what he has to do to get some service, if he has previously played as a poacher he's going to be very disappointed here. Swindon now promoted to League 1 won 3-1 today in a higher level than last year and still scoring goals, so they obviously create lots of chances......unlike us.
Does anyone know the direction to any of the non-league clubs we are likely to playing next season.
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Post by one2many on Sept 12, 2020 16:06:28 GMT
Shockingly poor. Does anyone know the direction to any of the non-league clubs we are likely to playing next season. With Covid 19 not looking like going away I wouldn't worry too much about finding the grounds. Finding a Tv stream for non league is another matter......
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2020 16:12:20 GMT
Oh dear oh dear just got the final result and our team has lost again now call me all you want but that’s five defeats on the bounce I know give him time it’s early doors he will get it right but fxcking Forest Green are hardly world beaters we should be at the very worst getting a draw. Rant over 45 games to go stay safe one and all COYWM
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Post by bonaparte on Sept 12, 2020 16:16:48 GMT
Abysmal. Where is the free flowing football we were promised. Where were Hickman and Millar and Crawford who all made things happen, why Sarsovic who has not been at the races in any game Slow build up lots of poor backward passes, can't speak. Will not be watching any more of this poor fare and sorry I have bought my season ticket.
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Post by one2many on Sept 12, 2020 16:17:07 GMT
That was horrendous. All the hype about the new signings was how fast they are, how big and strong they are... shame none of them are able to actually play football. The midfield was non existant, the passing was pants and only one or two of our players have any technique to be able to control a football (the goalie being one of them). The wing backs didn't beat a man or get a cross in the whole afternoon. The defenders brought the ball to the half way line before firing an aimless ball that either went to the opposition or out of play. The forward line was constantly offside. Fair play to the substitutes who looked like they cared when they came on. 10 headless chickens who can be fortunate that Forest Green are known for a vegan diet. A half decent side would have thrashed us.
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Post by davidm on Sept 12, 2020 16:17:49 GMT
A really terrible performance.
The standard of passing in this match was the poorest I have seen for years. And it applies to all the players – it was just endless poor passes.
We should have scored after 5 minutes when Doyle got through. Sarcevic half obstructed him but it was a clear relatively easy chance and he poorly put it wide.
Forest Green were very average at this stage but we just couldn’t pass a ball accurately.
After about half an hour Delfouneso had a chance but the ball ran off his foot straight to the keeper.
We then had a spell of about 5 minutes of decent passing and it showed. Sarcevic forced the keeper into a decent save and from the corner Greenidge headed wide from 5 yards out. He should have scored.
There were worrying signs showing in the defence though. We kept giving away stupid free kicks and from one, their player shot over from 10 yards when he could have scored.
We finished at half time at 0-0 but it was very poor and we kept giving stupid free kicks away.
From the restart Forest Green could have scored but they flashed the ball across the 6 yard box.
Five minutes in the second half, the inevitable mess in defence occurred. Greenidge this time gave away another needless free kick. The ball came in, Crellin punched away but we were all fast asleep and just didn’t react. The ball fell to a Forest Green man 25 yards out and a good shot went in off the post.
Two minutes later it should have 2. We got in an awful mess in the left back position and the ball went across goal to the Forest Green striker all on his own on the penalty spot but Crellin charged out and blocked him.
Two minutes later, they were through again but White made an excellent block tackle. We seriously could have been 3 down
One comment regarding pace – Greenidge brought the ball out of defence, got caught and was absolutely outpaced in the chase back and only a good block in the box stopped another goal. And he is supposed to be our fastest player!
It took till 15 minutes before the end before we got a shot in – Crawford brought a good save out of their goalie.
The next effort came in the 95th minutes when a long ball into the area found Gordon who could only knock the ball across the box.
And that was it. 3 homes games in a week – 3 deserved defeats.
Just an awful performance from the team.
Marks:-
Crellin - 7 Didn’t do much wrong
Santos - 4 Too many passes out of defence were overhit
Baptiste - 4 Awful. Struggled with his distribution and looked awkward
Greenidge - 4 Very disappointing. Passing out of defence was awful
Jones - 4 Played like a full back not a wing back.
Comlyn - 3 Just poor throughout. Again his passing was horrible
White - 4 Too many turns backwards
Gordon - 4 Like Jones, just doesn’t help the attack
Sarcevic - 3 Yet another poor poor performance.
Doyle - 4 Missed a good chance early on and then very little
Delfouneso - 4 Could not get into the game
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Post by kenglowhite on Sept 12, 2020 16:28:10 GMT
I had the same experience last week and am wishing I missed the lot this week. Evatt must be the world's greatest salesman persuading 8,000 of us desperate Wanderers supporters to pay to watch that.He's had them together for many weeks, yet they play like complete strangers, preferring to pass to the opposition, and failing to cover for one another front and back, frequently needing to resort to fouls to contain relatively green opponents, and showing little or no cohesion. I am still wondering how our captain came to be compared in any way to Messi. He just seems to be absent most of the time. Would the early opening for Doyle, if converted, have made any difference, I wonder
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Post by OohMac on Sept 12, 2020 16:41:41 GMT
Dont know if thats as bad as its going to get but its the worst ive seen them play.
Imagine if you ask Phil Parkinson his thoughts on Ian Evatts ethos he will smirk and say "good luck, come see me in May and tell me how you got on". As bad as the football under Parky was, this was worse.
It was just plain awful. Think all players were 3/10(or lower) with the exception of the subs Crawford and Tutte.
I didnt think the results would come immediately but god i thought it would be much, much better.
Sarcevic, Comley, White....what the hell was that?
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Post by andyl on Sept 12, 2020 17:45:50 GMT
I thought we looked completely unfit. Hardly a player lasted the game. After all the hype about style of play we saw something worse than ever. How on earth Darcy doesn't make that team I'm really not sure.
Santos epitomised the lie we've been fed. I conted at lwast seven times in the first half where he punted forward. Later he hadn't the energy even for that.
We played a back three based on Baptiste and an unfit Greenidge who all but gave a penalty away. This meant that Jones and Comley had to backtack. I think Jones did quite well until the gas ran out on75. Comley was shot in the first half. Needless to say with no wingers we offered nothing on the flanks.
Doyle and Delfouneso had good chances but weren't fit enough to compose themselves. Sarcevic did a few good things but was pressed out of it and faded.
All three subs added something but if they were less fit than the starters it says little.
The basics at this level are energy fitness strength and solidity. All were absent
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 12, 2020 22:43:02 GMT
Sounds like I was the lucky one missing all that then. Maybe I ought to thank iFollow for not letting me in rather than complaining? Never mind guys, sounds like it can’t get any worse. Or can it?
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Post by OohMac on Sept 13, 2020 7:21:43 GMT
Sounds like I was the lucky one missing all that then. Maybe I ought to thank iFollow for not letting me in rather than complaining? Never mind guys, sounds like it can’t get any worse. Or can it? I think it can, because FGR were pretty toothless. They didnt create much. I guess like some they thought this may be a difficult opening game and had to play at thier best. Think it soon became clear that we had nothing to hit them with. They kept the ball with ease, ran down the clock and finished the match with energy in the bank. A game they never looked like losing and a lead that never looked like slipping. They played the game in 2nd gear and looked dominant. Other teams will take a look at that and come with no fear. We could be getting some Accrington style pastings if we cant improve in every department. Suggest one of the things he works on is taking a corner and not being off side. Taking a free kick and lifting the ball off the air? Receiving a ball from a throw in and not hitting it out of play straight away?
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 13, 2020 7:48:46 GMT
Sounds from everybody that it was pretty awful yet as usual IE try’s to put a positive spin on it and insists, rather naively I think, that Doyle will still get 20 goals! Well not unless he starts getting some support which neither he nor Delfouneso seem to have got so far. Can anybody explain to me how Crawford didn’t start after his excellent, individual performance against Crewe and if by all accounts Championship clubs at least were after Darcy, Evatt considers him not good enough to even be on the bench? We are all willing to support IE but he has to accept that he is still a rookie manager and is himself learning on the job. The fact could be that the players he’s been able to sign are just not up to the task of playing the way Evatt wants and in that case does he have the ability to understand and accept that and adapt to what they can do best. That to me is the test of a good manager, making the best of what you’ve got instead of ploughing on hoping for the best and failing. We all said of Parky, making the same mistake over and over again and expecting a different result is a sign of madness!! Let’s hope we’re not saying that about IE in a month or two?
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Post by kenglowhite on Sept 13, 2020 9:31:06 GMT
I see that Ian Evatt in the BN is now doing a KH and blaming yesterday's performance on the depression of yesteryear. That is a lame excuse and reveals a failure to admit that his recruitment , which got us all optimistic, is based on his hope that he can turn round the performances of around 15 players whose careers had dipped from promising starts and gell them into an all round skilful unit for BWFC. So far it is the players themselves who are lacking many of the basic skills, including confidence, who are failing to justify his and supporters' optimism. Regarding Doyle, is it not just possible that his career at Swindon was turned around by the support of a skilful creative player sweating behind him, and is it just possible that Evatt hoped that skilful player for him at Bolton would be Sarcevic, who really hasn't been at the races. I remember Manu signing from West Ham years ago a hot goalscoring Ted MacDougall, but he flopped. The reason? They should also have signed his chief provider. For the moment we must hope our chief coach has really selected the right players for his squad and that they will do a Barrow and come together. For that he must start to make better selections, for instance decide which of "the giants" is the key figure in central defence, who can speed up midfield, and whether wing backs are better than real attacking wingers.
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 13, 2020 9:43:53 GMT
Well if IE is feeling the pressure enough already to resort to lame excuses it doesn’t bode well for the future. There are many examples of first time manager successes who then failed miserably when appointed higher up and we are taking on trust that IE isn’t one of them. Adversity brings out the character in people so we’ll have to hope that IE has what’s needed to overcome these initial problems but so far I’m not liking what I’m seeing. The blame for results lies entirely with IE and his team and certainly not on these mythical problems from the past. He needs to stop making excuses and start accepting responsibility because that’s what he’s being paid for. Every real fan is 100% behind Evatt and his team but the quickest way to lose the fans is to both make excuses and silly statements about what players will do. Actions not words are what fans want and Evatt needs to be clear about that before irreversible damage is done
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2020 11:13:46 GMT
I’m not sure if this season will be the one that we get promoted as I think it’s going to be a long season to get the players to gel and start winning game’s again fingers crossed we don’t have to suffer getting beat every other week before we reap the rewards. Stay safe one and all COYWM
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