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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 6, 2020 21:36:49 GMT
More reflections on the match. Goalkeeper Seems good on shot saving – certainly made a couple of good saves in the first half. Distribution very good, accurate and swift. Crosses looked a bit ropey with a couple of very poor punches. One rush out of goal in the second half. Overall very positive. Defence Composed on the ball and distribution quite good. Susceptible to high balls which considering their sizes is strange. Baptiste struggled on high balls. Taft looked more composed but couldn’t cover down the wing for Bradford’s first goal. Santos certainly has decent ball control but a centre half’s job is firstly to mark and defend and he didn’t for both of the goals. When we consider that he came from non-league football, maybe coaching and match experience will improve him. Wing-Backs The wing backs were disappointing in that they got forward well but were unable to create any danger. The pace that I was expecting from Gordon didn’t show. When you consider that the defence/wing-backs consist of 1 L1 reserve, 2 L2 players and 2 non-league players, I suppose we need to accept mistakes but hope for improvement. Midfield Overall tidy but couldn’t open up Bradford’s defence. White looked very good in that he was always available for the ball and used it well. Sarcevic was disappointing despite the goal. I expected to see him dominating the opposition but he struggled. Comley misplaced a few passes but he did hold the midfield shape together. When he went off, we were very raggy and couldn’t get a grip on the game. I was really disappointed with Crawford, from whom we expect a lot. He was on the field for 30 minutes and apart from 2 free kicks, one of which was odd to say the least, I just didn’t see him Attack The 2 attackers got little service from midfield/wing-backs. Delfouneso was involved in the game and created the goal but Doyle was starved off service. He became his own worst enemy and started dropping deeper and deeper, presumably out of frustration. Overall, there was a lot to be positive about – the style of play – thank god we have got rid of the Parkinson hoofball. We somehow need to get more action in the opposition’s box. If that is to come from wing-backs we need to get them going at the opposition. Defensively, we need to wake up a bit and get tighter. If this was the manager’s best team selection, which I assume it was, I think he should play the same team against Crewe on Tuesday and hope to get the side gelling together. Agree with every bit of that David and also that despite the seemingly poor performance that IE sticks with that team if he thinks it’s his best rather than constantly chopping and changing. We will only succeed with a settled side in order for players to get to know each other’s games which is something we haven’t had for ages. As you say we need to bear in mind what level of football these players have just come from as it’s a step up for most of them. It will take a little time for them to get up to the pace and quality of opposition so maybe we need to cut them a little slack. I liked a lot of what I saw even though it looked a bit mechanical and I’m sure once the players become familiar with each other, performances, fluidity and results will come. I would though like to see Darcy getting a game, he might just add that bit of punch missing up front. |
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 16, 2020 10:21:07 GMT
The way Lincoln City deconstructed Bradford City on their own turf suggests to me that they could have hit double figures against us, had we scraped through the last round which is mightily worrying.
I won’t have it that Michael Appleton wouldn’t have crawled on his hands and knees to take up the mantle of the mess left by Keith Hill and Parkhoofson at our beloved Wanderers, but instead, seems to be working wonders with The Imps. Think he would have Ben the best out there had he been available. I even think Joey Barton would jump to manage us if the chance came up. I’ll still give IE my support but it’s waning pretty quickly and the first ‘convincing’ win cannot come soon enough
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 10:55:36 GMT
The way Lincoln City deconstructed Bradford City on their own turf suggests to me that they could have hit double figures against us, had we scraped through the last round which is mightily worrying. I won’t have it that Michael Appleton wouldn’t have crawled on his hands and knees to take up the mantle of the mess left by Keith Hill and Parkhoofson at our beloved Wanderers, but instead, seems to be working wonders with The Imps. Think he would have Ben the best out there had he been available. I even think Joey Barton would jump to manage us if the chance came up. I’ll still give IE my support but it’s waning pretty quickly and the first ‘convincing’ win cannot come soon enough Being patient is not one of your strong pionts is it ? remember your one time hero Fat Sam saying at wet spam " you wont see anything for three months and then things will start to improve " and he had some good players , we have a set of has beens and never will be's so that wiil take a bit longer if we stay or get to mid table I will be happy then Maybe the Bolton fans will get positive for a while and learn to live in the present JJ and co are long gone look to tomorrow . |
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 16, 2020 15:28:06 GMT
The way Lincoln City deconstructed Bradford City on their own turf suggests to me that they could have hit double figures against us, had we scraped through the last round which is mightily worrying. I won’t have it that Michael Appleton wouldn’t have crawled on his hands and knees to take up the mantle of the mess left by Keith Hill and Parkhoofson at our beloved Wanderers, but instead, seems to be working wonders with The Imps. Think he would have Ben the best out there had he been available. I even think Joey Barton would jump to manage us if the chance came up. I’ll still give IE my support but it’s waning pretty quickly and the first ‘convincing’ win cannot come soon enough Nay rftr, I’m surprised and disappointed with you on this post. We’ve played one game consisting mainly of a bunch of cast offs that IE has had to bring together and try to mould into a team. We can all argue that this manager or that manager could have done better than IE but we will never know. Michael Appleton took on a settled, experienced team at Lincoln and you can’t begin to compare that with IE. Just give him some time and let’s see if he can turn things around. I actually believe he will but it will take time and it may be that IE will have to change his thinking to suit what he’s got but as long as he lays some solid foundations which we can build on next year when hopefully out of embargo, he will do for me. I want promotion this year but if that doesn’t happen but the foundations are there I’ll settle for that. |
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 16, 2020 15:36:17 GMT
The way Lincoln City deconstructed Bradford City on their own turf suggests to me that they could have hit double figures against us, had we scraped through the last round which is mightily worrying. I won’t have it that Michael Appleton wouldn’t have crawled on his hands and knees to take up the mantle of the mess left by Keith Hill and Parkhoofson at our beloved Wanderers, but instead, seems to be working wonders with The Imps. Think he would have Ben the best out there had he been available. I even think Joey Barton would jump to manage us if the chance came up. I’ll still give IE my support but it’s waning pretty quickly and the first ‘convincing’ win cannot come soon enough Being patient is not one of your strong pionts is it ? remember your one time hero Fat Sam saying at wet spam " you wont see anything for three months and then things will start to improve " and he had some good players , we have a set of has beens and never will be's so that wiil take a bit longer if we stay or get to mid table I will be happy then Maybe the Bolton fans will get positive for a while and learn to live in the present JJ and co are long gone look to tomorrow . Owdon a minute there Owdon I hope you’re not suggesting that I’m impatient!!😬😬 I gave as much encouragement as I could to Roy McFarland, Sammy Lee, Megson, Freedman, Coyle, Parkhoofson and Hill... well, maybe not so much on Hill as his bullshit got to me after week 2, but I’m not one to harangue anyone out of a job unless I think they’re beyond their means to change the depleting fortunes of my beloved Wanderers. I wanted each and everyone of them to have been The One, but apart from Greaves, Rioch and BSA, we’ve had no success and seen more changes in the hot seat than Watford. I want Evatt to succeed and he’ll have my complete backing. We have only played one important fixture, v FGR and we will get better, of that I’m certain, but that first win needs to be happening very quickly and before the negativity sets in amongst the majority of the supporters that he’s been dealt tripe over the last few seasons and I’m sure that once they are allowed into the ReeMac will make the difference and shout us up the league to promotion COYWM |
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 16, 2020 15:56:01 GMT
The way Lincoln City deconstructed Bradford City on their own turf suggests to me that they could have hit double figures against us, had we scraped through the last round which is mightily worrying. I won’t have it that Michael Appleton wouldn’t have crawled on his hands and knees to take up the mantle of the mess left by Keith Hill and Parkhoofson at our beloved Wanderers, but instead, seems to be working wonders with The Imps. Think he would have Ben the best out there had he been available. I even think Joey Barton would jump to manage us if the chance came up. I’ll still give IE my support but it’s waning pretty quickly and the first ‘convincing’ win cannot come soon enough Nay rftr, I’m surprised and disappointed with you on this post. We’ve played one game consisting mainly of a bunch of cast offs that IE has had to bring together and try to mould into a team. We can all argue that this manager or that manager could have done better than IE but we will never know. Michael Appleton took on a settled, experienced team at Lincoln and you can’t begin to compare that with IE. Just give him some time and let’s see if he can turn things around. I actually believe he will but it will take time and it may be that IE will have to change his thinking to suit what he’s got but as long as he lays some solid foundations which we can build on next year when hopefully out of embargo, he will do for me. I want promotion this year but if that doesn’t happen but the foundations are there I’ll settle for that. Apols W63 I think my reply to Owdon pretty much gives me a stay of execution with you on this one😬😬 I want Ian to do it I really do and I also think he will do it as he talks in the language of the problems he solves, so that’ll do for me, I just hope he gets his first win v Chesterfield and then everyone’s nerves will settle, but from the comments after the FGR game, we were never at the races and that’s got to be down to him, cast offs or not. On the Appleton thing, my lad played football for a youth set up and it’s manager was best mates with Appo from his time at Seedley Primary School and when they played together as kids at Barr Hill FC and he said he’d have loved the job at Bolton IE will get my full support for as long as he tries his hardest and doesn’t go down the KH bullshit after match speech rule COYWM |
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 16, 2020 18:05:07 GMT
I’ll let you off rftr😉. I myself wouldn’t have had a problem with Michael Appleton but I think FV wanted a completely new direction. Only time will tell if that’s the right decision so we’ll all have to just wait and see. It will be difficult for IE both having to blend in so many new players but also having to plumb the depths of what was available due to embargo and wage caps. In fairness, if he succeeds he deserves a medal making silk purses of so many sows ears. Like you I’ll give him every support as long as I can see he’s trying. I think this is also a career step up for IE so there’s no question that he’ll be trying his hardest to succeed. It’s early days yet but let’s hope this Saturday evening we’re feeling more positive than last week?
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Post by realtrottersforever on Oct 25, 2020 16:33:47 GMT
More reflections on the match. Goalkeeper Seems good on shot saving – certainly made a couple of good saves in the first half. Distribution very good, accurate and swift. Crosses looked a bit ropey with a couple of very poor punches.One rush out of goal in the second half. Overall very positive. Defence Composed on the ball and distribution quite good. Susceptible to high balls which considering their sizes is strange. Baptiste struggled on high balls. Taft looked more composed but couldn’t cover down the wing for Bradford’s first goal. Santos certainly has decent ball control but a centre half’s job is firstly to mark and defend and he didn’t for both of the goals. When we consider that he came from non-league football, maybe coaching and match experience will improve him. just having a browse back what we were all saying for this season opener. this observation is looking pretty relevant at the mo isn't it. Great shout !  and proof that it's not a confidence issue. it's a technical issue. he played pretty well this game, and hadn't suffered a series of defeat that he was to blame for. |
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 25, 2020 17:35:47 GMT
Yes rtf, it’s not a one off problem with Crellin, I don’t think I’ve seen him really come into a bunch of players to catch a ball yet, always flip flaps at it and frequently misses it altogether or gets a light touch on it. It must unsettle defenders because as was the case on Saturday, they leave it to him and then regret it. If Evatt seriously wants promotion, I think he’s going to really have to think about an alternative because this is going to come up time and again until he does. It’s not the lads fault, he’s young, lightweight and inexperienced and it’s unfair to expect him to be the finished article. Evatt must be doubting his decision to sign him whatever he might say in public but sooner or later he’s going to have to come up with an alternative because this lad will continue to let him down.
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Post by realtrottersforever on Oct 25, 2020 18:09:20 GMT
exactly Whites.. i put this up to counter some of the nonsense I'm seeing with people comparing how Wilder dealt with Dean Henderson after a high profile ricket. totally different. that was a one-off from what I can tell.
send about 100 up & unders up in training..is he catching them there ? or at least have a plan B. let the centre backs deal with it in certain occasions. yesterday both Santos and Delaney ducked to let Crellin a clear route to it. Santos is a giant and aerial stuff is his strength. it's not ideal but i'd rather deal with it, than pretend it doesn't exist, and be unprepared.
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Post by andyl on Oct 25, 2020 20:28:48 GMT
Yes rtf, it’s not a one off problem with Crellin, I don’t think I’ve seen him really come into a bunch of players to catch a ball yet, always flip flaps at it and frequently misses it altogether or gets a light touch on it. It must unsettle defenders because as was the case on Saturday, they leave it to him and then regret it. If Evatt seriously wants promotion, I think he’s going to really have to think about an alternative because this is going to come up time and again until he does. It’s not the lads fault, he’s young, lightweight and inexperienced and it’s unfair to expect him to be the finished article. Evatt must be doubting his decision to sign him whatever he might say in public but sooner or later he’s going to have to come up with an alternative because this lad will continue to let him down. I think it was against Forest Green that he twice came out and caught crosses with ease, but not since.. Saturday's was a near gale but what alarmed me was not that he punched it in but that he looked terrified of it. I thought the Barrow goals were almost worse. Newport impressed me, much more so than Cambridge but he gifted their goals also. I'm not sure why Evatt was so keen to move Matthews on, perhaps price, and it may be that Crellin could have competed and won his place over an experienced keeper. I'm afraid though that as we saw with Bogdan who went on to play reasonably well for us if a keeper has these nerves in his make up it will come out at key moments in a career. I fear for him.. I do not know how Alexander will develop. We don't seem to bring keepers through. I note that Will Jaaskalainen played for Crewe in their 2-1 victory at Doncaster and Jake Turner for Morecambe losing by the same margin to Forest Green, both not good enough for us to bring on? |
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Post by kenglowhite on Oct 26, 2020 15:14:52 GMT
There is a suggestion on the BN site that Andy Lonergan is available. Think he might fill the bill, if Alexander not given his chance and Gilkes unfit.
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Post by realtrottersforever on Oct 26, 2020 15:53:35 GMT
Andy Lonergan and Ben Alnwick are both still available
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and proof that it's not a confidence issue. it's a technical issue. he played pretty well this game, and hadn't suffered a series of defeat that he was to blame for. 
