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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 14:54:53 GMT
Half time 1-0 down like I said earlier plenty of possession but not a great deal of umph and I don’t mean whack it forward and what’s all the messing about with corners and free kicks just get the ball in the box have a shot or two COYWM
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Post by realtrottersforever on Sept 5, 2020 14:55:38 GMT
Not very effective in the final 3rd, and everyone squeezing up too high leaving us a bit exposed at the back.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 15:09:50 GMT
Get in great start to the second half Anton Sarcevic let’s hope our season starts now COYWM
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 15:16:04 GMT
Ohh great effort just wide COYWM
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 15:39:30 GMT
Simple cross again into the box header into the far corner 2-1 down we need more urgency going forward I would rather there’s a winner than penalties but for us not them COYWM
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 15:59:01 GMT
😢🤷♂️👍
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Post by davidm on Sept 5, 2020 16:30:05 GMT
Some pretty passing but awfully naïve.
We had trouble getting forward from midfield whereas Bradford were in our area many times and Crellin made 2 good saves.
Defensively, we conceded 2 goals from being asleep. Standing watching as the opponents attacked.
We set off OK with some very nice passing but it was all in the back 2/3 of the pitch. We rarely gave Doyle or Delfouneso a touch.
On the other hand, Bradford were more direct and Crellin had to make 2 very saves in the first half.
We were eventually caught out when a long ball down their right totally caught us and the centre found Novak in acres of space to score. Santos was 5 yards behind Novak. Such poor defending.
The rest of the half was even – we had loads of possession but in the wrong part of the pitch.
Second half, we scored almost immediately as Delfouneso ran into space, His centre was poor into a Bradford player who messed up the clearance to Sarcevic who scored well.
You would think that we would push on from there but we couldn’t. Bradford had most of the attacking play and eventually scored when we slept again and the central defence left people unmarked for a simple header.
And we couldn’t respond.
Disappointing - some nice possession passing but no bite up front and some very amateur defending.
Marks:-
Crellin - 8 - 2 good first half saves kept us in the game in the first half.
Santos - 5 - Slow to react on both goals
Baptiste - 5 - A struggle
Taft - 7 - Some decent runs and passes down the left
Jones - 6 - Steady but not able to put any decent balls into the box
Comley - 5 - Struggled to influence the game
White - 7 - Involved throughout and did a lot of work in midfield
Gordon - 6 - Didn’t see much of his pace
Sarcevic - 5 - Scored but very disappointing. I expected him to dominate in midfield
Doyle - 5 - No service to him so no performance
Delfouneso - 6 - Worked hard
Crawford - 4 - On the pitch for 30 minutes and just nothing
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Post by realtrottersforever on Sept 5, 2020 16:31:45 GMT
I thought Evatt had said this Santos guy was supposedly "EXTREMELY QUICK". www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/18624536.bolton-sign-ex-barnet-peterborough-defender-ricardo-santos/you could say he was to blame for both goals. to be fair, he played a great ball for our goal, but i want a centre back to stick to his main job & be defending and stopping goals. anything else is a bonus. he did look very useful on the ball..but also looked like he had the turning circle of an oil tanker !! shades of Prince-Desir Guano about him. at times, you're thinking....hmmmm looking good. good buy....other times he's making Zat Knight look good. i hope Evatt didn't believe some agents spiel about Santos's pace, because that quote could come back to haunt him. early on, when Santos was venturing way upfield...i'm thinking to myself....no worries..he has the pace to get back. later on, it became evident....there was no such pace. well not today anyway. whether he's still shaking off pre-season rustiness, I don't know..time will tell. i will reserve judgement on the rest. disappointing start all the same, especially adding to the last 2 heavy defeats in pre-season.
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Post by OohMac on Sept 5, 2020 18:14:27 GMT
Is that the key word David, naive? Is it too naive to expect to take 18 playerd and have them playing this way. Do you think the likes of Parky and Megson will read his comments, as much as we like them, and scoff and think "yeah, okay. We'll see in May"
Personally today was a glorified friendly. Could care less about a result but i hope this "we deserved this and didnt deserve that" isnt a regular expression.
My fear with the signings was, (risk of pulling a KeithHillism) ever heard a band bring out a couple of singles, quality songs, then bought the album and realised youve been had and the rest are duds.
No doubt Doyle and Sarcevic were great signings and the rest we were told were good but little evidence.
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Post by kenglowhite on Sept 5, 2020 18:17:41 GMT
After getting in some minutes late on an inefficient site( it refused to admit that I was a paid-up member) I quickly realised that the BWFC hype was betraying a work in progress of a group of lower leagues journeymen. I have no doubt Ian Evatt will be able to mould them into a decent unit, but for today the Bradford defence was better organised than ours, and there was a lack of service to the front two. I couldn't understand why Santos was spending most of his time in midfield, nor why an ageing Baptiste was supposed to hold the back four, or was it three, together, especially as he was usually under great pressure. Both the supposedly fast Gordon, and the supposedly strong central midfielder, Comley,. disappointed me and failed to make crucial interventions and creative moves for most of the time. As last season we were unable to play our way around a defence that held its position well. Ironically our best two players today were loanees, Crellin and White. Blackburn must have some very good midfielders if they can afford to send the latter out.
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 5, 2020 21:14:12 GMT
My thoughts exactly Kenglo, only Crellin and White for me were showing today and possibly Gethin Jones at times, the rest were average at best. Santos did have some good moments in midfield but was lacking in defence. I’m going to be brutally honest and say that without major improvement we’ll struggle even in L2. We passed the ball but didn’t move to receive it back which just allowed the Bradford players to dominate us. We never once got behind them with our so called wing backs and our supply from midfield to the strikers never materialised. Considering that our defenders are supposed to be giants we hardly won a ball in the air and the less said about our set pieces the better. I think the only ones they fooled with the practice ground moves were themselves. With such height advantage surely just a straightforward corner would have been better. I’m hoping this was an under par performance with the players desperate to impress and that they show more against Crewe because losing is a habit and defeat there will be four in a row and not a good prelude to the seasons start.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 21:52:04 GMT
Hi 63 that’s the thing getting beat becomes a habit we have to get out of sooner rather than later, all the passing and movement seemed to be sideways when we finally got to the edge of there box we did nothing with it now I know it’s early doors and the team needs to jell and get to know each other but I really thought we might have been a little better than that but never mind it’s only the cup COYWM
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Post by realtrottersforever on Sept 6, 2020 12:19:07 GMT
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0Ntof5hs2Mquick bit of video analysis of the defending yesterday. it was even worse than i'd first thought. 39secs in. no-one tracking the runner who goes on to have a shot on target. good save from Crellin. Santos playing offside. fair enough try it..but be close enough while doing so to still have a chance of stopping it. 49secs . freeze it. Santos got a chance to show us that rapid pace he has ( ha!). looks like he's towing a caravan getting back. their 2nd goal. this is the WORST ONE. freeze the action at 1.45. Gordon behind the guy who eventually puts the cross/assist in for their goal. move the action on to 1.46. Gordon now runs past his man. potentially aware of trouble in his left back area from a runner..fair enough. but he can still close the guy down on the ball. no.4 Taft now enters the picture.... by now Gordon has run even further away from the guy with the ball. bizarrely Taft decides to do the same. all drop off... the guy on the ball can't beleive his luck.... he's not moving at pace, doing any tricks, skills or anything. just stands their in oceans of space ...and progressively gets MORE space..not LESS !!! our lot taking the SOCIAL DISTANCING A BIT TOO FAR ! HIGHER UP in the view at 1.45. Santos is stood right next to the guy who goes on to score. ball watches for a second or 3. at 1.50 the guy heads it into our goal. Gethin Jones gestures to Santos after the goal saying..what the hell were you doing !!
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Post by davidm on Sept 6, 2020 13:09:20 GMT
More reflections on the match.
Goalkeeper
Seems good on shot saving – certainly made a couple of good saves in the first half.
Distribution very good, accurate and swift.
Crosses looked a bit ropey with a couple of very poor punches.
One rush out of goal in the second half.
Overall very positive.
Defence
Composed on the ball and distribution quite good.
Susceptible to high balls which considering their sizes is strange.
Baptiste struggled on high balls.
Taft looked more composed but couldn’t cover down the wing for Bradford’s first goal.
Santos certainly has decent ball control but a centre half’s job is firstly to mark and defend and he didn’t for both of the goals. When we consider that he came from non-league football, maybe coaching and match experience will improve him.
Wing-Backs
The wing backs were disappointing in that they got forward well but were unable to create any danger. The pace that I was expecting from Gordon didn’t show.
When you consider that the defence/wing-backs consist of 1 L1 reserve, 2 L2 players and 2 non-league players, I suppose we need to accept mistakes but hope for improvement.
Midfield
Overall tidy but couldn’t open up Bradford’s defence.
White looked very good in that he was always available for the ball and used it well.
Sarcevic was disappointing despite the goal. I expected to see him dominating the opposition but he struggled.
Comley misplaced a few passes but he did hold the midfield shape together. When he went off, we were very raggy and couldn’t get a grip on the game.
I was really disappointed with Crawford, from whom we expect a lot. He was on the field for 30 minutes and apart from 2 free kicks, one of which was odd to say the least, I just didn’t see him
Attack
The 2 attackers got little service from midfield/wing-backs.
Delfouneso was involved in the game and created the goal but Doyle was starved off service. He became his own worst enemy and started dropping deeper and deeper, presumably out of frustration.
Overall, there was a lot to be positive about – the style of play – thank god we have got rid of the Parkinson hoofball.
We somehow need to get more action in the opposition’s box. If that is to come from wing-backs we need to get them going at the opposition.
Defensively, we need to wake up a bit and get tighter.
If this was the manager’s best team selection, which I assume it was, I think he should play the same team against Crewe on Tuesday and hope to get the side gelling together.
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 6, 2020 21:24:06 GMT
Hi 63 that’s the thing getting beat becomes a habit we have to get out of sooner rather than later, all the passing and movement seemed to be sideways when we finally got to the edge of there box we did nothing with it now I know it’s early doors and the team needs to jell and get to know each other but I really thought we might have been a little better than that but never mind it’s only the cup COYWM Hi Chip, great to see you back now the footballs here. You say “never mind it’s only the cup” but whilst I accept the League is the most important thing this seSon, the cup could present some welcome revenue which the club would benefit from. It was also a game we should have been looking to win against a major league competitor, just to give the team confidence after a couple of bad defeats. Anyway, we’re out now but let’s hope we put up a better performance on Tuesday. Hope also that you’re fit and well again now.
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