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Post by OohMac on Mar 11, 2020 16:55:07 GMT
After ending our losing streak and putting in three games where we at least matched opposition has Hill begun the fight back.
Was it a given that he would be replaced. It seems odd that Hill was seen as dead man walking despite FV saying absolutely nothing about his position. In fact the only thing ive heard from Sharon was in August when she said she needed patience and had built in a L2 plan? So a lot was KHs own doing.
I thought he was on a 2 year deal but now concensus seems to be 12 month rolling. Nothing confirmed.
So question is do you think Hill could still be here. If your dead against it could he do anything in these last games to convince you otherwise?
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Post by whitesince63 on Mar 11, 2020 19:04:15 GMT
I should think if he turns it round and picks up results in the remaining games OM, he’ll have every chance of being kept on. At the moment he’s recovering things well and if he continues doing that he might even bring me round. Saturday should be interesting because Peterborough are a top side and if we can get something against them then it really could signal things are improving and that’s just what KH needs to keep his job. Everybody accepts it’s been a tough ride for him, it would have been for anybody with all the obstacles he’s faced. We’ve been in decline for over ten years so maybe it’s unfair to have expected better from whoever took the job but then again, Keith knew the situation when he took it on so no sympathy there. It could all unravel again over the next few games and if that happens I think KH will be replaced but the last three matches have given a glimmer of hope and with Crawford and Hamilton starting to shine and the defence seeming to have firmed up I think we may have turned a corner. I’m not Keith’s biggest fan and he wouldn’t have been my choice but if the improvement continues it would be unfair to dispose of him rather than let him have a chance to start next season with a full pre season under his belt and no points deductions.
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Post by OohMac on Jun 13, 2020 6:17:33 GMT
Think it says a lot about the plight of the club when after i heard the news I put Sky Sports News on(sorry Whites) for a bit of backlash. Breaking news....players to wear BLM slogans on shirts. For the hour I saw no comment, no interview, no possible replacement.
No sport and cant get a mention.
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Post by whitesince63 on Jun 13, 2020 9:15:43 GMT
Yes I looked on Sky Sports too OM but absolutely nothing about us, so it probably illustrates how unimportant we now are? I do have a certain sympathy for Keith and Flicker because they did have a really tough ride but some people rise to that kind of challenge and some people capitulate and sadly I think things got too much for Keith towards the end. We just weren’t going in the right direction and I’m not sure we could trust them to be any different next season so I think a change was inevitable. The question is, who will that be? I wonder if since Nobby was close last time, only pipped by Keith and Flicker, that he might have already been approached this time, or whether FV have learned lessons from this experience and along with Phoenix try a completely new plan. Whatever they do they must surely make a statement on it because whoever it is will soon have contract negotiations and player choices to make. This time we want to be ahead of the game not chasing our tails and ending up with just what’s left. I also wonder if we will finally hear from Mr Phoenix himself and what his ideas and intentions are. Considering how long he’s been here it’s strange that with the influence he will have on where we go, we really know nothing about him.
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Post by kenglowhite on Jun 13, 2020 9:15:44 GMT
On the Hill demise, which on the results after Christmas I welcome, I believe his tenure was never the same after his outburst at Rochdale. It is possible that this was the result of just hearing of the involvement of Peter Kenyon and his Macclesfield protege Phoenix. It is time we heard more from the latter if he is indeed seen as important to the club's future, but it seems to me that FV are looking to Kenyon's experience of the game, and I expect the next developments to be centred around his involvement.
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Post by OohMac on Jun 13, 2020 9:33:44 GMT
I wouldnt have been annoyed or shocked if Hills time was extended to xmas but considering we won 3 games in a row in October and total of 5 by March for me shows how much the wheels came off.
I dont think Nolan would have accepted 6 month contract and i think that swung it for Hill and Flicker.
Onwards and upwards. Easy to say but it we can bring in quality loan signings as a spine we can maybe look forward to a decent squad for L2.
Get an experienced spine to hopefully work with Brockbank, Edwards, Delaney, Politic, Darcy*, Crawford*, Dodoo*.
And maybe Matthews and Lowe.
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Post by Alptrotter on Jun 13, 2020 10:04:43 GMT
Hope everyone is keeping well. For me, the appointment of Phoenix signalled the end for Hill. Why have a traditional manager and a whatever Phoenix is(DOF?) 2 salaries made no sense. The next man will be a head coach rather than manager, so I hope it is a young, dynamic type, perhaps with some experience of modern coaching methods and with good connections to a PL or Championship club ( for loans). A relatively junior coach at a successful PL or Champ club, ready to step up and grow into the job having done his apprenticeship, would suit me fine.
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Post by kenglowhite on Jun 13, 2020 10:09:47 GMT
Is that how Phoenix is seen?...we don't know because he hasn't said a word so far. We need to know a lot more about what is going on behind the scenes and what Peter Kenyon is really here for.
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