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Post by davidm on Oct 19, 2019 9:49:33 GMT
100% a must win game if we are to keep the dream of a miracle escape going.
Looks probably like a couple of changes - someone (Graham?) for Bridcutt and maybe a place for DoDoo – I like Politic so I hope it’s not him that get pushed out.
2-1 victory today – in fact ANY sort of victory please.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 10:40:17 GMT
On my way to the game I am just going to forget about saying we need to win because in all honesty we will have to play like champions from now till the end of the season but it’s better than watching hoof ball so I’m in for the ride 3-1 COYWM
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 14:23:30 GMT
Still on the motorway COYWM
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 14:59:11 GMT
Finally got to my seat missing all the first half due to crash on m61 but at 0-0 I have not missed anything hahahaha. COYWM
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Post by thegrud1 on Oct 19, 2019 15:01:12 GMT
After setting off at usual time and stuck on A6 ,,,,GMR said it would take me 1 hr to get to game....turned round went home...listeneing on radio
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 15:17:32 GMT
Yessss 1-0 wonderful goal clean sheet now and it’s a win COYWM
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 15:19:10 GMT
Sorry verlinden with the goal COYWM
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 15:26:44 GMT
There goes our clean sheet 1-1 the ball should have been cleared before they got the shot in COYWM
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 15:30:11 GMT
1-2 sloppy defending ah well we still have a club hahahaha COYWM
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 15:45:08 GMT
God we are so desperate for a goal but it all just seems so slow. goal 1-3 so ****ing poor defending it’s like we have gone backwards Rochdale take three points with ease long way back now. COYWM
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 15:57:31 GMT
I’m sorry for this but that is the end of the season for trying to stay up yes a bit unlucky but if we can’t win games then that’s it. We scored a great goal then it all fell apart. COYWM
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Post by OohMac on Oct 19, 2019 16:03:50 GMT
Usual fade on 60mins. I dont think we can say its lack of match fitness. Weve had two weeks off, 8 weeks of this squad. Thats ample pre season.
Honestly think now we have an honest in house discussion, we are going to League 2 and we need a squad of players who will be happy to start in L2 next season. If Bridcutt, Verlinden, Murphy are not interested in that project, thanks and all the best and recruit some that are.
Really disappointing that especially going up in the game.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Oct 19, 2019 16:14:38 GMT
I fully understand Keith Hills love in and pride at being given the job as manager of the super whites, but this is wearing thin now and I honestly thought today was and perhaps should have been our first win. That I am looking at Sunderland’s results as well as ours is a saddening indictment of the situation that has been thrust upon us poor long suffering fans, I’m looking to see if Parkhoofson has lost to try to get some happiness following our loss!! We will go down, I think we’re all aware of that but 50 percenters are not going to even help us go down with a battling semblance of pride, we need hundred and ten percenters on the pitch and that’s where KH and DF have to earn their corn.
Very sad to keep getting beaten by Rochdale, Is this some sort of a Keith Hill settlement fee from being sacked by them that we have to keep getting hammered off them??? Is that 3 defeats in 3 months to the Dale???
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Post by Alptrotter on Oct 19, 2019 16:58:30 GMT
After a three week break without seeing a game ( Blackpool was not on ifollow) I was really looking forward to this match. I have watched both the previous cup ties with Rochdale and see them as a quick, interesting passing team, but one that could and perhaps should be beaten. The first half, to me, was a bit helter skelter, a lot of movement and energy from both teams, but far too many misplaced passes from players of both sides who were trying to play beyond their natural pace.
I thought we looked better after the break when Dodoo relaced Politic and soon caused chaos in the Rochdale defence with a fine run and cross for Verlinden to bundle in. Sadly, we then relaxed, maybe thinking the job was done and they came back into the game. A pretty innocuous throw in on the left side of our penalty area only needed Lowe to fall asleep, let his man escape and it was all square. A thoroughly avoidable goal.
We tried to regroup and, in truth should have gone ahead after Dodoo had again created a good chance with a cross. We seem to be lacking in all confidence to score and duly missed twice. The ball was booted upfield and Wilbraham ( of course) headed on for a Rochdale player to run on towards the left side of the penalty area and place the ball in off the far post. A good shot, but a relatively weak one and I’m not sure that Matthews was blameless.
This knocked the stuffing out of us and, predictably, Luke Murphy coming on hardly geed us up to drive to get back in the game. I’m left wondering what, if anything, he actually does well. The third goal was a freak, but again one we could have and should have cleared.
Of course, we can talk about the inexperience of our central defence and others, but, really, all three goals were defensively poor at any level of professional football.
Hill really needs to get a grip now. As rioch says, the honeymoon is over and he needs to get his team playing much more to their potential than he has currently achieved. A result at Bristol in the week is essential.
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Post by davidm on Oct 19, 2019 18:04:20 GMT
A match that we dominated first half and just let go in the last 30 minutes through out and out sloppiness.
We should have been ahead at half time but we weren’t because we don’t score goals. We don’t score goals because we don’t create chances.
I really do not like the team shape of just Murphy up on his own with NO support. He flicks balls on, holds the ball but there is no one within 20 yards of him. Not one of our midfield ever gets into the box. The two wingers stay on the wing.
So – no matter how pleasing the passing football is, and it is pleasing, we are hardly ever going to score.
The early season second half fade out really hit us today. Once we scored, Rochdale absolutely dominated us.
We almost saw the faster ever goal when Rochdale shot more or less from the kick off. Matthews was all at sea as the ball landed just over the ball.
From then on, we dominated. Nice lovely passing except when we got to the penalty area and then no ideas at all.
Verlinden and Chicksen combined well for a number of crosses, from one of which Murphy had a header saved.
But that was it for the first half – domination, one attempt and a host of corners/crosses but 0-0.
Rochdale were more in it in the second half but we scored a decent goal. Emmanuel and DoDoo combined down the right for an excellent cross which Verlinden got in the net.
We have had some bad luck this season and Rochdale’s equaliser summed it up. We just went to sleep for a throw in. Lowe (I think) just missed it and Camps had all the time in the world to get a shot in. It was wickedly deflected and looped into the net. Not deserved but a sign of things to come.
We should have been back in front soon after when Murphy had a shot blocked and Chicksen proved he is left footed when his right foot shot dribbled through to the keeper. A really good chance for both players to re-take the lead but from that attack Rochdale launched the ball forward, Wilbraham headed on and their full back (I think) had acres of space (where were you Emmanuel?) to strike the post with a shot that then rebounded in.
We then put 2 upfront with O’Grady coming on but were undone when Zouma tried to dribble out of defence. He beat 2 players but the third got him and took the ball forward. There were still chances to clear but we panicked and in went no 3.
A game we should never have lost. Played Rochdale 3 times this season, been ahead 3 times and still not won.
Very disappointing. It just highlights to me that there will no miracle escape this season.
Marks:-
Matthews - 6 Not sure if he had any chance with the goals.
Emmanuel - 5 Good first half when he played almost as a wing back but caught out often in second.
Chicksen - 6 Another who looked good in the first half. Linked well with Verlinden.
Senior - 5 Started positively but the centre of our defence was all at sea in the last 30 minutes.
Zouma - 5 Does loads of good things but also loads of ridiculously bad things. Tried to out-muscled Wilbraham twice and lost out both time. Tried to be Beckenbauer and cost us the third goal.
Graham - 5 I was impressed with him against Blackpool but out of his depth today.
Lowe - 5 Oh dear – sleeping for goal 1 and very short in the passing game.
Politic - 5 I felt a bit sorry for him to be hooked at half time but he has lost that air of positivity that he had.
Crawford - 4 I think it must be me with Crawford but I do not see what he does other than takes dead balls. Many more backwards passes than positive ones. Never gets up into the opponents area.
Verlinden - 6 Useful first half with some decent crosses.
Murphy D - 4 Much too laboured and slow. Mind you, he had no support.
DoDoo - 6 Created the goal BUT is he a striker or a winger? He played as an out and out winger.
Murphy L - 4 Very little from him.
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