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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2019 14:30:20 GMT
That report of Henderson and Palace was reported in Sportinglife.com Ken. I take it that we have got to be thankful to Parky for something. Well, hasn't been paid and he is taking training and I assume fixing up the friendlies. I can't see it being anyone else, 'cos the club is still in the hands of the administrator. As for Iles, I suppose he works on the budget that the Beano allows him and so it's probably restricted to phone calls, twitter and other social media, when his wi-fi isn't broken.
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Post by kenglowhite on Jul 7, 2019 15:27:22 GMT
If Iles were doing his job properly he would certainly be telling us via the administrator why there keeps being these delays to promised deadlines. He is either in possession of the facts under confidence, or lacks the right relationship with whomseover is in possession of the facts. This whole business rather than rescuing our club is becoming farcical.
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Post by OohMac on Jul 7, 2019 17:41:42 GMT
I dont think theres any budget allowance for persevering. Gartside blew him off for a long time Ken fobbed him off. Hes usually behind the stories when they break on BBC wesbite.
How can Alan Nixon get the stories and leads so often and so ahead of Iles. Iles tends to spread an interview over 3 or 4 days, which infuriates readers and makes the subject seem stupid for repeating himself. Or writes an almost word for word copy of whats on a differnt site. When Ken banned him he upped his game and some stories he has a Jerry Maguire moment where he does write a relevant, honest piece. But its too few and far between and its usually followed up with "First team player that nobody rates but keeps getting picks backs manager" come on Iles, show me the money! (Or rather where the moneys gone!)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2019 19:00:11 GMT
I'm not sure on the status of some of our players. Wheater for example. I know he's training with Kilnmarnock in Spain. He could be playing Europa football this Thursday. Nothing exotic, as it's Connaghs Quay FC, but the potential is there if they beat them over two legs. Then what about Vela. Is he with us, or not? I thought that in one of Iles' stories, Wheater said he had left, but Google still says he's a Wanderer.
Anyone know abaout Vela, or others?
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Post by OohMac on Jul 7, 2019 20:39:13 GMT
They will all be free agents. Assume the Europa League may speed up the Kilmarnock deal but not necessarily. Vela said his goodbyes and I thought it was the right thing on all parties. Guy needs to knuckle down and focus, perhaps not take it for granted.
If i'm honest I think Hobbs could do a job in L1. Even Dervite looked the part last time. Wheater has been a great servent. I say that in a cliche way, Bolton have paid that man very well for 7 and 10 months of his 8 year tenure. Seems he was key to strike action.
Everyone saying the reason for PP to stay is to keep us in L1? Then what? Recycle 1 35 year old for another. Kirchoff leaves, Henry in, Henry out O Neil in. Like Dr Whos. Whats the point. If the end result of playing young players who want to win is League one to league 2 so what?
Bury proved its easy to bounce back(they hadnt been paid by the way) the financial differences are not like Prem to championship.
If i'm completely honest when im doing my coupon i dont always know what teams are playing in what division. May be the butt of the jokes but arent we already.
"Better to die on ones feet, than live on ones knees" Phil Parkinson has grazed knees.
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Post by whitesince63 on Jul 7, 2019 21:16:28 GMT
It now seems that Sullivan of Wet Spam is taking over the ground and hotel. What the hell is that all about? This whole thing just seems to be a total car crash so it’s no surprise it’s taking so long. FV, or whoever they are, clearly don’t have the money to do the job so so much for them having proved it to the Administrator and making by far the highest bid. We should have had confirmation long before now but there have clearly been major problems. And we though Bassini was a fool??
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2019 22:12:30 GMT
It now seems that Sullivan of Wet Spam is taking over the ground and hotel. What the hell is that all about? This whole thing just seems to be a total car crash so it’s no surprise it’s taking so long. FV, or whoever they are, clearly don’t have the money to do the job so so much for them having proved it to the Administrator and making by far the highest bid. We should have had confirmation long before now but there have clearly been major problems. And we though Bassini was a fool?? Come on whites. Where did you hear this? Please post a URL for your sources please folks. own up whites, or I'm not helping paper the parlour! If what you say is true, then I don't hold much for our club. Seems the London based lot have seen this as a bit of easy real estate. I know Sullivan can't be owning two clubs, but when he's finished with WHU, then maybe he'll buy out FV. Maybe that's the plan. Bassini a front man. Gawd! I can't help thinking now, that FV and Sullivan/Bassini and Anderson are all in this together.
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Post by whitesince63 on Jul 7, 2019 22:54:45 GMT
Don’t blame the messenger Wots!! It seems Sullivan has invested £12.5m to purchase the stadium and hotel but obviously not the club due to League rules. Maybe this was what Bassini wanted in on but if it’s true it certainly puts the whole FV thing into perspective. I can understand someone wanting the real estate as an asset but can’t therefore see what the plus is for FV just having the playing side. The whole thing just seems a complete muddle to me and frankly I’m losing the will to put up with it much longer. If everything isn’t belonging to one owner and whoever is making decisions is intending to keep Parky as well, then personally I think I’m done with it because I can only see more pain and mayhem down the road. Let’s face it, Sullivan isn’t remotely interested in the football side and would just basically be asset stripping. Either way I can’t believe there hasn’t been at least some news from the BN on progress over the weekend but seeing as there hasn’t the mushroom policy must still be in place.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 0:55:15 GMT
Given what you're telling me whites, this puts us in the same position as Coventry City and look at the problems they've had and still do, with not owning their own ground.
tbh, I used to be an ardent football supporter when I was young. It was always BWFC and UTD, 'cos dad worked in Trafford Park and I was told to go to be out of the way. Having said that, I traveled all over Lancashire, grounds and various hotels to collect autographs,. Something the today's fan never had the opportunity to do, I think. Then I completely shunned the England team, 'cos it was always London based and screw the rest of the country. Hpw can ou supprt a team that you can never go to see, unless it takes all your time and money
Even now, it's money spoiling the game. Y'know "he who dies with the most players... wins".
So, back to the BWFC. Who are we supporting? Our football club, or the ones who are looking to make a fast buck and I don't need to mention the name Anderson, do I?
The beautiful game stinks of nothing more than greed!
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Post by whitesince63 on Jul 8, 2019 7:19:51 GMT
Quite agree wops, the money sickens me too. In fact I actually applaud those who’ve given up on the pro game and chosen to support their local amateur team. In fact my nine year old granddaughter is joining Rotherham’s girls team next season and if it’s a choice between that and a Parky managed Wanderers, there’s no decision to make. As for Sullivan being involved, it sounds like that may have been hogwash as according to the BN article this morning, FV members have been named as owners. Of course the full facts have to come out yet but my thoughts were exactly the same as yours about Coventry and the problems they’re still having over ground ownership. Let’s hope the delay was FV acquiring everything and it’s now resolved and we can get on. Just the problem of Parkinson remaining for me now?
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Post by kenglowhite on Jul 8, 2019 8:43:25 GMT
I wonder if the key insight to all this could be Basran's pulling out. Rather suspiciously Marc Iles produced this bit of information tucked into amother piece - was it the Murphy one? - which suggests he is fully aware of what is really going on, but has been sworn to secrecy. One way or another the hotel is the most important constituent of this deal, being the only saleable piece of merchandise for some time in the future, maybe even this week. Why has nobody in the media - not even Nixon - tackled Basran over his defection ? On the Parkinson retention, this smacks of indecision on the part of FV or some sympathy for him from a member of their team. It is not going to help the League One campaign unless he is shunted upstairs and replaced by Lee and Kelly.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2019 20:58:31 GMT
Picture of a friendly looking meeting between potential new Chair and Phil Parkinson. Discussing a contract extension? No new contract extension david. I think this is merely a one way street of Parky keeping FV up to date on what's going on at ground floor level. No guarantees for Parky, apart from he'll get paid for keeping things rolling until FV are the owners and then it's "maybe Parky", until we find the right man.
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Post by whitesince63 on Jul 10, 2019 8:35:28 GMT
But surely Parky wouldn’t accept being used like that wots, he must have more self respect than that? You’d have to think that he must have been given more of a nod by FV of a permanent deal rather than just until we find someone else. If not, then I can’t understand why he hasn’t walked, unless it’s linked to when and how much he’ll be paid for last season and bonuses? Every day I wake up hoping for clarity or a conclusion and every day I’m disappointed but with time running out there surely has to be something confirmed this week?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 13:04:55 GMT
Could be the wages situation whites. Do managers have the same wage protection that the players have?
Or, he clearly hasn't been offered another job and he may be the cheapest option for FV, if and when they become the new owners.
My feeling is that thy will go with Parky, as there's not much time to organize things with time running out before the start of the season.
Friendly at York on the weekend, but who's going? There's not much to choose from, especially if Wheater goes to Salford, which I expect him to do.
Good news is that several clubs have indicated that they will help out with players, when new ownership is established, according to Marc Iles in the BN.
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Post by OohMac on Jul 10, 2019 14:56:30 GMT
Think for squad maybe like school team trials where we invite 40 or 50 to sessions and whittle down to the best half dozen.
As for the sale, apparently an inportant meeting today with FV and investors as losing head money man left FV short but still interested.
My info is from Alan Nixon twitter or more someone Nixon head noddee too. Problem is they are anonymous and can say what they want and if challenged can say Non Disclosure.
I dont understand how the Sullivan deal makes any sense. £12.5M for a hotel and football stadium that costs £35M in 1999? Then hold us for ransom for rent and kick us out after the 12M is spent? Does not make any sense to me at all.
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