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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 12:13:32 GMT
Lets hope FV Dubai the club. (Sorry) Searched for the Kuyt/Dutch bid and cannot see any real truth in that at all but do wonder if there were 5 genuine bids how long until we set a deadline and go down the pecking order and how long before courts are back involved. It does appear the "nothing to worry about glitch", is more than just that. It is significant enough to stall what should have been an easy administrative sale. One has to wonder whether the "glitch" is within the sale of BWFC, or on the part of the potential Buyers. There should definitely have been a deadline to complete the deal also, or this "Buyer" could hold on until it does go back to the courts. I would have thought that 30th June would be the longest deadline, otherwise I don't see many players sticking around to find out.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 13:23:42 GMT
There's lots of speculation regarding "the glitch" in the sale of BWFC. Nothing forthcoming from Marc Iles in the BN, but posters have their own idea's. Is it Anderson who is holding up the sale? Does he still have a say in the sale as a creditor? Is it that FV want the club and the hotel and can't get it over the line together? Two different administrators remember.
Will we be ready for the start of the season?
No team, no friendlies organized and no season tickets invoiced.
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Post by OohMac on Jun 23, 2019 15:03:53 GMT
Sammi Ameobi heavily linked with Forest, same day Keane parts ways with the club. Good news for sammi as Keane would have knocked him into a coma with some of the performances. Looked out of breath 20 mins into most games and no real reason for it.
Forest enquired about him in Jan, were told(£3M may even been as high as £6M). In fairness he was supposed to be under contract still, we werent relegated at that time and he is not as old as i thought 27?) But had he have been more realistic maybe we could have been £750k better off. Then again maybe we would have been the same as we are but with a new London restaurant open)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 15:34:48 GMT
Your post is very depressing Oom. Not the bit about Ameobi and I too am surprised that he is only 27. What a career he could have had, had he put a little more effort into it. Never a 90 minute man for me.
The bit about Anderson still hits hard, that he used the club for his own sly purposes. IMO not a footballing man, as some on here would say.
It may be that he is never associated with the ownership of any club and that would be the good news. Restaurants? We all know about them. A cash business that should be strictly debit, or credit card to keep them in line with the taxman. Even then...
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Post by OohMac on Jun 23, 2019 18:34:35 GMT
It came as no surprise to me that Londoner Ken Anderson, previously banned from football did not have the Bolton at heart. It was like Cruella DeVille at a dog shelter. But i did think that his motivation was the same as ours. Maximise value and sell on.
When he realised it wasnt feasible he just let us rot. And was allowed to with soft prior checks and not held responsible.
Yes its truly sickening. But the media report it for the day, talksport give it a shout when its court dates but then its back to Paul Pogba.
And if were honest if we get taken over like City and Wolves we would probably forget Shaun Harvey, Ken and Larwence Basini.
In protest I honestly think we say to Coventry, Charlton, Blackpool, Leeds, Luton, Portsmouth fans. If EFL have let you down in the past make a stand. Dont let it keep happening. Refuse to play League cup ties, refuse the football league ties and if theres any punishment refuse league games. Individually they would hammer a club but in unison they could not do that!
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Post by whitesince63 on Jun 25, 2019 8:15:38 GMT
This silence is now bordering on the insane. Players and management completely in the dark over when they will return for pre season. Some news must surely be issued on where we are.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 9:09:36 GMT
Couldn't agree more whites. Meanwhile another player leaves, as in Jack Earing. Not sure how good, or bad he is, but the squad certainly dwindling away. I thought that all players were relieved of their contract if they weren't paid after a certain date? I'm hoping that the administrator's have a plan B, such as going down the list of Buyers as suggested by Oom in another post. Hopefullyy, Bassini isn't on the list. I'm going with Anderson's greed, or Bassini's threat of legal action from his previous purchase from Anderson as the "glitch", which should have either been sorted b now, or, at least made public.
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Post by whitesince63 on Jun 25, 2019 17:00:42 GMT
Not just Earing it appears Wots as there is news that both Connell and Oz are signing for Celtic and Charlton respectively today. That would really be a disaster, to lose both for little or nothing and leave us and with what we will have left. I have to say that if it is FV Whites who are taking over and they are confident of completion, I can see absolutely no good reason to keep everyone in the dark. Surely they should be aware of how the silence is casting doubts in players minds and their need to confirm their own positions for next season. I can only conclude from what’s happening, or not happening I should say, that there is a major issue that’s dragging things out. As you say, it’s highly likely that it’s something to do with the minefield left by Anderson and his residual demands or third party shenanigans. One would have hoped he would take his pound of flesh and disappear into the abyss but as usual, the piece of scum probably wants the last drop of blood as well. It’s way past time the BN stopped being the apologist for Anderson’s actions and started to ask uncomfortable questions of both the club, Administrators and FV if really involved. Waiting is no longer an option and our local newspaper should be seriously questioning what’s really going on.
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Post by OohMac on Jun 25, 2019 19:26:03 GMT
Im very worried now. Moreso than during the court dates of last season as i always suspected that someone would pick it up at admin. Again was told, nothing to worry about 99% done. No Basini, no Anderson.
Frankly without Earing, Connell, Pritchard and Oz I dont how we can compete, i dont see how the football would be anything but more of the same hoofball to 6 foot 5 sunday league players. I dont know why PP is sticking around. Fair play to Sammi and Pawel, walking away thats them backing themselves.
As for the hold up. Im no expert but one theory is Anderson. My understanding and it could be off, but the 5m Eddie lent him persoanally he then lent to the club and making him secured creditor. Now if thats the case then its accounted for. So we might not like it but secured creditors get that, so administration would have that in the inventory. Ken should then pay that loan back to ED estate but thats neither here nor there for us. So i dont see how that scuppers the deal. Unless Ken was not a secured creditor but just a creditor in which case he would be offered 25p in the £1 and still be responsible for paying ED back the whole amount. So maybe that is why he is refusing.
Now i need help. If most parties agree to a reduced paymebt and one doesnt what happens? Is there a private hearing with Judge Rinder or is that it, no unanimous agreement therefore no deal and liquidation. Meaning non secured creditors get nowt. So whilst Ken doesnt care about BWFC it would not be in his interest for us to collapse.
Might need someone to step in now with some real understanding.
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Post by whitesince63 on Jun 25, 2019 21:43:05 GMT
But we’re all just speculating OM. None of us really have any clue as to what’s really happening or what’s causing the hold up. You’re suggestion may be correct but if so why keep that so quiet? Are FV still at the table or have they departed and others are now involved. Does Ken intend to purchase the hotel, which he and Michael James put jointly into Admin. It makes money and he may wish to keep it. If so that may scupper the FV plans for the whole. Pure speculation but what is not in doubt is the fact that unless something is done this week, the future for our club looks bleak indeed. Like you I never worried during the court cases but for the first time I’m considering the huge possibility that we could finally be liquidated. Ken Anderson has not one ounce of care for this club, never did have and never will have and if it means we go to the wall in the process of him screwing as much as possible from the Admin process, then he won’t shed a single tear or feel he bears any responsibility. I obviously hope I’m completely wrong but the silence is now deafening and looking at the lack of interest even on this thread of long time, genuine fans, I fear everyone is running out of hope.
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Post by OohMac on Jun 26, 2019 11:32:08 GMT
Whites can you shed some light too on the contract. PP is apparently on a rolling one year contract. Now ive heard that this means hes always contracted to 1 year. But think yourself said that this expires next week. If so thats not what i thought it was. And it doesnt seem like any element of "rolling" at all.
Again though i have no idea why hes sticking around(well i do, pay off) at what point in the last 3 seasons would you think "Phil will be good with working with the kids". Never. Unless Parkinson can sign 24 players from the army, the circumstances hes left with do not suit him as a manager and surely he needs to go. As i said Pawel and Sammi backed themselves enough to say 'no chance, i can do better'
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Post by kenglowhite on Jun 26, 2019 14:20:35 GMT
I wonder if we will get the statement promised today (it's now getting a bit late). Like most I am beginning to smell a rat.Someone has suggested the appearance of the fraud squad, and that may not be a million miles away when you consider what may or may not have been paid into the club during the Anderson era. On the other hand we have to remember how long it took Anderson to get rid of Dean Holdsworth, and once again the legal guys may be havinhg to sort out something like that. However, the BN and the administrators have promised us something today, and they owe us something, even it is only an explanation for any delay, should the problem have not so far been dealt with. So many people are keeping quiet, no wonder we are all on edge. No doubt Marc Iles is in the know, and has taken a confidence. Is that good or bad for him and his paper? At least he should be able to tell us SOMETHING today.
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Post by OohMac on Jun 26, 2019 14:41:51 GMT
I wonder if we will get the statement promised today (it's now getting a bit late). Like most I am beginning to smell a rat.Someone has suggested the appearance of the fraud squad, and that may not be a million miles away when you consider what may or may not have been paid into the club during the Anderson era. On the other hand we have to remember how long it took Anderson to get rid of Dean Holdsworth, and once again the legal guys may be havinhg to sort out something like that. However, the BN and the administrators have promised us something today, and they owe us something, even it is only an explanation for any delay, should the problem have not so far been dealt with. So many people are keeping quiet, no wonder we are all on edge. No doubt Marc Iles is in the know, and has taken a confidence. Is that good or bad for him and his paper? At least he should be able to tell us SOMETHING today. Marc is only "in the know" if Alan Nixon tells him or puts it on twitter. Hes way off the pace Marc.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 14:45:33 GMT
Well I fly home tomorrow after five wonderful days in Dubai and still nobody going to buy our club has anyone got any real ideas what the hold up is ? . COYWM 🤷♂️😢😢
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Post by whitesince63 on Jun 26, 2019 16:47:29 GMT
Whites can you shed some light too on the contract. PP is apparently on a rolling one year contract. Now ive heard that this means hes always contracted to 1 year. But think yourself said that this expires next week. If so thats not what i thought it was. And it doesnt seem like any element of "rolling" at all. Again though i have no idea why hes sticking around(well i do, pay off) at what point in the last 3 seasons would you think "Phil will be good with working with the kids". Never. Unless Parkinson can sign 24 players from the army, the circumstances hes left with do not suit him as a manager and surely he needs to go. As i said Pawel and Sammi backed themselves enough to say 'no chance, i can do better' I’m as much in the know as you are on the actual details of Parkys contract OM but my understanding of a “Rolling Contract” has always been that as long as both parties are in agreement, the contract just rolls on as the name suggests. However, should one or other party wish to terminate or amend the contract, this would be on termination of the yearly anniversary, in Parkys case, 30th June. The idea that the club would have to pay up a years salary for termination seems preposterous and certainly not something you could imagine Anderson tying himself into. As far as I can see, Parkys contract ends on Sunday unless the club decides to continue it but if not there should be no penalty or further obligation. Of more concern to me and probably relevant to Kenglo’s assertion that news has been promised today, concurring with Bassinis tweet earlier that we will be Bassini Whites by Friday and season ticket prices revealed on Monday!! Even more worrying is reference to the Ken Anderson Suite. Could we now have two cowboys in charge?
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