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Post by davidm on Apr 5, 2019 14:27:28 GMT
After yet another traumatic week, and probably yet another one to come next week, let’s talk about football.
Last week’s win at QPR gave us a slight glimmer of hope but it must be followed up by 2 home wins this week to give us any chance.
I have given up hope of seeing any youngsters (Connell, Hall) or skilled players (Oztumer) in the starting line up so I expect just more of the same standard that we have seen all season.
Somewhere in my permanent pessimistic mode, I expect us to finish bottom of this league so I have an awful feeling that Ipswich will beat us.
0-1 but I really hope I am wrong.
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 5, 2019 17:40:09 GMT
I hope not David, like you I'm totally pessimistic these days about beating absolutely anyone. It just makes you realise how far we've slipped when we can't even have confidence in beating the only team below us. I actually thought that we'd get a result at Wigan knowing how critical the game was but as usual the players didn't turn up. Why should they turn up tomorrow, even if the games on, because they haven't in the past? I'll go for a win for us, probably a streaky 1-0, though I'll probably be completely wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2019 18:33:12 GMT
Not long now for this nightmare season to end I'm going to put my neck on the chopping block now I think we need 4 wins from our last 7 games and hope that the other teams around us continue to get beat. I know it's dreaming and the way we have been playing isn't going to change but we can't just chuck it all in and drop into the first division without a fight so starting tomorrow against Ipswich 3-1 to the Wanderers no idea who will score. COYWM
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 6, 2019 9:40:40 GMT
Well if we can beat Ipswich tomorrow then there's every chance we can do the same against Boro on Tuesday because they're having a really tough time just now. With nerves jangling for our opponents in the remaining games the comeback could be on. My fear is however, that Parky just has no idea how to show enterprise and will probably retain his let's not lose mentality to games. If a new owner came in, binned Parkinson and let say DL take over I'd have more confidence but sadly I think it's more likely we don't win today and all that optimism disappears.
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Post by Alptrotter on Apr 6, 2019 10:25:01 GMT
I think I see things a bit differently. As long as Parky believes that a draw is as bad as a defeat ( true in our position) he has to set up the team to be more progressive. I do feel we have the players, deployed correctly, to dispose of Ipswich.
Whether morale has been sapped by all the idiocy off the field, who knows? My worry will be that, should we win today and especially if other results go our way, Parky will revert to his default, protect what you have approach. This, as we have seen all season, is pre programmed to fail. Conclusion? Today’s result doesn’t matter, we are still going down in my view.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 11:02:38 GMT
On my way to Leicester for my trip to the pub for Beer and football still hopefull of three points today and a very very long shot at staying up. If we go down I will be able to go to fleetwood again COYWM
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 14:57:32 GMT
0-2 halftime goodbye championship hello first division. 63% possession for Ipswich we are the fxcking home team try attacking you sorry excuse for a manager. COYWM
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Post by OohMac on Apr 6, 2019 15:00:05 GMT
Unarguably the two worst teams in the league. 36% and two down.
A striker with 1 goal in 51 games and bags a brace. An easy brace too.
Results going against.
You know what Bassini, if you want fans on side, sack Parky on day one and ill wipe your slate clean for me.
Have to wonder what damage a 48 hour strike, after a rare win, did and was it worth it.
Doidge (and Moxey) on the scoresheet today. Really think under a good manager we may have had a very decent young player.
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 6, 2019 15:08:38 GMT
Totally agree on Doidge OM, he has that natural ability and I'm hopeful under new ownership we may go back in for him. Appalling stuff today but I'm not sure we can entirely blame Parky for this, other than the low possession stats are again a reflection of his systems. No chance of scoring three now so it's pretty certain we're down. Irrespective of the off field situation, it just doesn't explain the seeming inability of the players to do even the basic things. Hopefully a deal does go through this week and the new owner can make their mark with removing management and planning for next year. It's hard to think of more than a handful of players I'd keep so it gives the new manager plenty of scope to do things his way.
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Post by OohMac on Apr 6, 2019 15:16:07 GMT
Disagree Whites. We have gone from relying on home form last season to having the worst home record this season.
So the set up is completely all wrong. And that comes down to Parky.
We are down. You would be looking at a triple sub if you were most managers. Whats he got on there. No Hall. No Pritchard. Usual pedestrian like for like players. Why?
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Post by Alptrotter on Apr 6, 2019 16:11:58 GMT
In the end, I think this was a fitting way to have the last, flickering flame of hope for the season doused so fully. An unbelievably supine performance against an Ipswich team miles adrift at the foot of the table with a tiny number of victories (was it 3?) ,a bolton performance in an absolute must win game that never even got into first gear, never mind got out of it, a playing staff devoid of character, skill and above all pride and determination and a coach whose utter hopelessness is beyond description.
Had we any other ownership than our dreadful absentee landlord, the decks would be being cleared for next season in League One now. Instead, we will drift to game 46 in the same listless way and move into the summer with no plan, no strategy, no leadership and, in all probability, next to no players
I will be in Bolton on Good Friday and my penance will be to attend the game against Villa. . My daughter says that I won’t recognise the club, its atmosphere, or its emotion . After today, I can easily believe that!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 16:18:04 GMT
So were the fxcking hell do we go from here apart from down ? COYWM
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 6, 2019 16:22:42 GMT
I thought, before kickoff, that were only to be 2 reasons why we could potentially lose today
1. Barry Knight came out of retirement to ref 2. Phillip John Parkinson would set us up not to lose 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I’m completely dejected, even with a win we’d still have been 5 points behind the bottom teams that are winning, Rotherham and Millwall We are a JOKE What a sad day
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 6, 2019 16:30:56 GMT
In the end, I think this was a fitting way to have the last, flickering flame of hope for the season doused so fully. An unbelievably supine performance against an Ipswich team miles adrift at the foot of the table with a tiny number of victories (was it 3?) ,a bolton performance in an absolute must win game that never even got into first gear, never mind got out of it, a playing staff devoid of character, skill and above all pride and determination and a coach whose utter hopelessness is beyond description. Had we any other ownership than our dreadful absentee landlord, the decks would be being cleared for next season in League One now. Instead, we will drift to game 46 in the same listless way and move into the summer with no plan, no strategy, no leadership and, in all probability, next to no players I will be in Bolton on Good Friday and my penance will be to attend the game against Villa. . My daughter says that I won’t recognise the club, its atmosphere, or its emotion . After today, I can easily believe that! Immaculate post Alp, absolutely spot on
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Post by andyl on Apr 6, 2019 17:19:08 GMT
I traversed a path from hope to incandenscence to resignation today. We were outplayed in the basics for much of the game. Passes went astray or weren't attempted from the back. We launched ball after ball to or over Magennis and he spent the afternoon in Collins'pocket with no support. Ameobi showed no interest and was llzy on the first goal. The second came after a ponderous turn was allowed and a good shot which Matthews was a touch slow on.
Connell is a boy and looks it. For alll that he got some good passes in and seemed to care at times directing others. Both he and Oztumer, of whom we were today allowed a sighting, looked superior to others. Oztumer had a goid shot and fashioned some breakaways the last leading to a consolation og. I remain of the view that if Phil had built a team around him and showed early seasom faith in Le Fondre we'd 'd be halfway up the table.
We are relentlessly poor at home and again were easily outplayed. Too negative never getting at them
Matthews 5 Olkowski 6 Beevers 4 Wheater 4 Taylor 3 Williams 5 Connelly 4 Magennis 3 Ameobi 3 O' Neill 4 Connell 6 Oztumer 6
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