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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 9, 2019 16:06:46 GMT
There’s a bloke down the road doing an absolutely brilliant job under worse conditions than Parkinson Ryan Lowe at Bury! More dross served up by Parkhoofson and them there useless players. There has to come a time when we do actually stop blaming the managerial tactics and wonder what on earth these players are doing to help their cause as they’re not all that bad, save for one or two😬😬😬
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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 9, 2019 16:44:16 GMT
It was game over at 1-0 It’s 2 now And Parkhoofson will give more bull in the BN about getting prepared for the next game!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 16:46:42 GMT
0-2 game over 1 shot on target for the love of mick fxck off Parky and take your back room staff with you. We're so shxt it's unbelievable going down without any fight whatsoever roll on. COYWM
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 17:05:52 GMT
Nice to score but still lost again hahahaha COYWM
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Post by whitesince63 on Feb 9, 2019 17:07:48 GMT
Well we got one back Chip and but for a seemingly cracking save could have been level but given the number of chances Preston had, it would have been hugely unfair. That goal shouldn't in any way cover over the appalling, negative tactics Parkinson plays. Why oh why not start with the two up top when we only ever look remotely dangerous with both strikers on? Surely Anderson has to see this man is nowhere near up to this level and hasn't a clue how to set up and prepare a team for a win. Let's hope that takeover is imminent because another couple of weeks with this numpty and there will be no saving our season. Fortunately results today weren't too bad for us so at least the others are trying to give us a chance.
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Post by andyl on Feb 9, 2019 17:25:44 GMT
Another game lost by our overly negative set up and horrendous defensive blunders but made almost respectable by an excellent goalkeeping performance and a late two up front flurry. We had in fact had a glimpse early on of Magennis posing an aerial threat. If only we had gone on.
I had been looking forward to my first sight of Connell and saw a few touches but goodness knows why he was asked to play so deep. Asking him to be the tackler looked a waste and he almost gave a goal away. Injury was very likely- so much for taking care of young players. And in passing how on earth does Oztumer not walk into this team and where was Murphy?
Preston ran rings round us throughout and created lots of one on one opportunities. We had defensive injuries and compounded these with complacency. That they took the leads was as a result of a terrible Grounds error. That we lost momentum was a lot to do with Lowe taking us backwards twice in quick succession from an attacking position.
Matthews save with his feet was superb and he deserved the fortune of the post. His distribution and tempo is far superior to that of Alnwick which no doubt means he will be dropped. Could this be the end of the line for Phil P
Matthews 8 Lowe 4 Wheater 6 Wilson 3 Grounds 2 Ameobi 5 Connell 4 Vela 5 Connelly 6 No one 5 Magennis 7 Donaldson 6 O'Neil 5
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Post by parkyout on Feb 9, 2019 18:40:46 GMT
Again only start to play after going 2-0 down, Parkinson has GOT to be the WORST ever BWFC manager in recent history, and that's going some when you're up against Freedman and Megson, Parkinson must have som top secret info on KA to keep his job for so long with 2 wins in the league since August, yes 2 wins in 6 whole months.
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Post by davidm on Feb 9, 2019 19:10:52 GMT
Awful, awful performance again.
As most of us said before the game, we now go to every match expecting to lose and, of course, we do lose. 2 wins in 27 matches and still the manager survives. For god sake man, have some self respect and RESIGN.
It was hard to tell the shape of the team today.
It could have been 4 at the back but at times Grounds played as a 3rd centre back with Lowe upfield as a right wing back.
The one thing that was clear was that Magennis was a lone striker.
We had a brightish first 10 minutes. Magennis headed weakly straight at the keeper and tried a speculative 30-yarder which was close but that was it.
We then sunk back and Preston ran the remaining 80 minutes until a last 5 minute flourish from us.
Ameobi had started just behind Magennis but dropped farther and farther back. Connolly played in Lowe’s usual defensive midfield role (very poorly) and O’Neill and Connell tried hard but went deeper and deeper.
Preston on the other hand just passed the ball to each other and it is remarkable how easy that makes the game look.
Barkhuizen missed an easy chance when the centre of our defence was wide open but the inevitable eventually happened.
Preston had the ball on the halfway line and made 6 passes to the feet of their colleagues which got them to the edge of our box where Browne (unmarked 20 yards out) shot well into the far corner. It shows that you don’t need to hit the ball high in the air to progress, they just passed to feet and got straight through.
1-0 down with 5 minutes left in the half and we could, probably should, have conceded 2 more before half time when Barkhuizen (I think) failed to beat Matthews in a 1 on 1 and then headed a corner wide from a very good position.
When the 2nd half started, we expected a bit of effort from the Wanderers but Oh No! Preston dominated possession and for 15 minutes we didn’t touch the ball properly – just desperate clearances which came straight back at us.
We were so out our depth now that it was just a procession and Potts (a midfield man note – when do our midfield players get into the penalty box?) waltzed through our statuesque defence only for Matthews to tip his shot against the woodwork. Good save from Matthews but he should have scored.
The only surprise now was that it took until the 80th minute for Preston to score again and what a horrendous error from Wilson. He got to a long ball and, I think, tried to tap it to Wheater. It may have been a mis-control but, whatever it was, the ball went to a Preston player and they made 3 passes straight through leaving Barkhuizen clean through to score.
I think 50% of the crowd went home then but us survivors saw Donaldson tap in when Connolly headed across goal in a rare attack in the 90th minute and then we had a bit of pressure and Preston keeper saved a header from Magennis.
Talking of crazy things. In the 92nd minute with us desperate to get forward, Preston just jumped the ball forward. Wilson was pressurised but had all the time in the world to roll the back to Matthews who could hoof it upfield but ridiculously decided to put it out for a throw in. We never touched the ball after that. Just stupid but it summed up his day.
A really terrible performance.
We are headed for League 1 and, I think, it will be in bottom spot too as we are that bad.
It is hard to think of anything positive out of this performance. Preston, by the way were 17th in the league at kick-off and totally out played us.
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Matthews - 6 OK for most part. A couple of really good saves else the score would have been a slaughter. Distribution tends to be slow.
Lowe - 3 A demonstration of 90 minutes of rank bad passing – just hoofs to the Preston defence.
Wilson - 1 Up until the 85th minute, I had him as awful as his marking was non-existent and passing appalling but then he gives Preston a goal with an absolute shocker pf a pass (or was it a mis-trap?). Terrible. Why do we sign players like this?
Wheater - 3 Much too slow to cope with fast forwards who ran him ragged. Usual good blocks but caught out today.
Grounds - 2 Bad mistake for first goal and, same as everyone else, terrible passing.
Connolly - 2 A typical Phil Parkinson player. Sole contribution to 1st half was 2 back passes and a couple of useless hoofs upfield. Again, why are we signing players like this?
O’Neill - 3 Largely anonymous. The Preston midfield just passed he ball around and through us at will.
Connell - 5 Looked OK for the time he was on. Got caught a couple of times but, as Andy says, was too deep. Hope his injury is not serious.
Noone - 3 Just nothing from him.
Ameobi - 2 So disappointing. He seems to have lost the will to play.
Magennis - 2 Carthorse. Soft header in 1st minute and a headed chance in injury time but really he just runs about like a headless chicken.
Pritchard - 4 Couple of nice touches in the time he was on.
Donaldson - 4 Scored at last but he is what he is – a slow labouring past-it striker.
Vela - 4 Failed to take his chance when he came on. I think that Parkinson has completed wiped out his natural game.
Manager - 1 Same old formation. Same old style of play. Same old result.
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Post by Pedro on Feb 9, 2019 20:02:25 GMT
Same old same old as noted above. Too little, too late - how many times have we seen this. Parky out, all donkeys over 20 out, all non triers out - how Ameobi has the hide to claim his obscene wage I just do not know ...... We are dooooooooooooooooooomed.
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Post by OohMac on Feb 9, 2019 20:02:26 GMT
Parky, you are well within your right to stay in employment as you are contracted too.
But please, please ask yourself if you honestly think you can keep us up. If the answer is no, let someone else have a go. By the way it is a no.
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Post by kenglowhite on Feb 9, 2019 20:24:13 GMT
I decided to stay home and watch the cricket,especially after Parkinson announced his usual sleep-inducing team. For the first time in many years of worshipping at Bolton Wanderers there is no one player with the skill to make me feel it is imperative to be there. Our manager must currently have the worst record of all clubs, and why he is still here is completely baffling, even allowing for the necessary money juggling by the chairman, who muat clearly know all the things that are not right in team selection, performance and aggression, which are galling all true supporters, who have lived through some other poor managers, and barren periods in the Sixtiea and Eighties, Do I need to take another 10 year break before the next upturn ?
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Post by OohMac on Feb 9, 2019 20:43:13 GMT
Started the thread and admitted id become numb. Ive written so many arguments and views and in the end ive deleted them.
Numb.
Absolute worst manager weve ever had. Worst manager The Championship has ever seen. People say hes dignified, has integrity absolute bullshine. Hes a leech, a parasite who is only interested in money.
If not go away and prove us wrong.
Phil you will NEVER, after this season, manage in the championship again. Lets just hope youre not here for League 1 next season.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 21:38:05 GMT
Just read Parky's comments and it's the same as the last 30 games, if this may have happened, if we hadn't concede that soft goal, blah blah blah blah for fxck sake Parky just do a big one and get the fxck out of town with your shxt management team. COYWM
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Post by Alptrotter on Feb 10, 2019 8:18:25 GMT
Another performance that flattered to deceive. A reasonable first fifteen minutes, in which Magennis could have scored twice, as usual quickly subsided into a lacklustre, ultra defensive display of long ball aimless booting. Once Connell went off, it seemed any vestige of self belief left the pitch with him. Having said that and agreeing with all Andyl’s and Davidm’s criticisms, it has to be ackowledged that Preston’s two goals were absolute gifts. Of course, their dominance was such that they would almost certainly have scored, had those two not been gifted to them.
Where now for Wanderers? League One beckons ever more strongly. We have a desperate and idealess coach, a team in which the players either look utterly defeated and unmotivated ( Ameobi is a good example) or simply not good enough for this level of football ( Grounds, Wilson, Lowe, Magennis, Noone are the clearest examples) or both. clearly KA has his mind on other business and there is little to no chance of any change of coach until something conclusive happens on the takeover front. We are still not so far adrift that saving ourselves is impossible, but it looks less and less likely.
The only smile I had yesterday was when Donaldson scored at the death. I said last week that he could play til Christmas and not score. He proved me wrong! Well done! I wonder, if I say Magennis, Ameobi, Noone and O’Neil could play till Christmas and not score, we’ll beat Brum 4-0 on Tuesday? That’s the level of my desperation!
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Post by andyl on Feb 10, 2019 12:18:54 GMT
It was certainly rather a pleasant, unflustered stroll to the match buses yesterday with few cars left on the car park and the second goal having triggered a much more visible mass walkout than the recent protests orchestrated by the BN and other media.
It was a long day. My day was not so jolly as Alan Houghton's 'Day trip to Bangor ' pint, pie and merriment away fixture celebrations. It consisted of crawl self out of bed, make way to railway station, hang about for delayed train, bus to ground, coffee in Starbuck's, pleasant hour with fellow fans before the game( best bit), watch something purporting to be a game of football but an obvious candidate for complaint to Trading Standards, stroll to bus, wait for delayed train, arrive home at 9pm, go to bed exhausted after one game on MoD- punctuated by one brief grumpy, non- responsive, non receptive exchange with my wife who wanted to tell me of something happy having occurred in my absence. My whole mood is affected by the afternoon's football. It always was- losses have ever created frustration, despondency and gloom but victories an equivalent disproportionate sense of rapture, joy and exhilaration with which few experiences compare. At least that used to be the case. What I felt yesterday was a sense of deadening apathy or a numbing dissociation of mind and soul-from team sheet to going behind. We stand no chance from the off because our whole philosophy is to let other teams play and not to attack for fear they might----bust ssh, don't tell Phil, they do anyway don't they?. From our best ( only? first half attack after the usual initial flurry, yesterday we even threw ( Lowe) a hard won throw in back to right back and then with a further back pass, brief clearance and then from invited pressure summoned Barkhuizen to miss his chance. That all started from Lowe in attack.
I'm not usually one to clamour for management resignation. There are after all many extenuating circumstances not least of resource and on this and the previous BN forum I never really argued for the departures of previous managers except in the case of Dougie at Fulham when all hope was lost. Coyle and Lennon at least gave us some good times before decline set in and Phil P at least gave us promotion from Div 1 which was a good effort even if with stultifying phases. And he does have some good, personal attributes and is conscientious to a fault in contrast to certain predecessors.
But this year every home game is same old, same old. The post Hull exile of Oztumer is obsessively vindictive, isn't it?. From what we have seen I'd say he is our most watchable and maybe best player and his record is better than anyone else's who played Div 1, isn't it? But he doesn't even make the bench. Murphy came in and did well. But he makes way for Connell. OK Connell shows talent and promise but should he currently be ahead of Oztumer. And what's all this about looking afetr youngsters when we ask a 17 year old boy to run around tackling rather than using his slkills to complement. His injury was waiting to happen. Should he be ahead of Oztumer and Murphy. Of course not it smacks of desperation rather than hope. I'm delighted to have glimpsed him and delighted to have academy players coming through but not like this in a defensive vice.
Yet again we saw that Magenis and Donaldson upfront gave us some semblance of team play and goal threat upfront, albeit not quite as cohesive and fluent as say Mane, Firmino and Salah. Phial says we were disjointed but doesn't seem to see himself as the cause of said disjointedness. It seems to me that the Black Knight in MP and the Holy Grail stood more chance of victory than we have of escaping relegation. Disjointed. Phil has pretty much dismembered the team with his rigid fearful tactics and constant changes.
Let's not buff Preston up either. yes as Alex Neil felt they could have easily won by five or six. But for Matthews who pulled off two excellent foot saves and in a very unassuming way was calm throughout we would have shipped five or six. But they were poor at the back. If ever we got a cross in they were awful. Even we in three attacks could have scored three and they really creaked late on. They didn't actually create that much either apart from capitalising on our Red Sea defending.. I'm convinced that a tam taking the game to PNE will have good chances to win.
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