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Post by OohMac on Feb 8, 2019 9:20:03 GMT
For last few weeks ive been zombie like in my following. Just numb by Bolton. This last few weeks perhaps with the awakening of the fans or perhaps of more takeover talk feel a little more awake. Wouldnt say hopeful.
Been thinking of the reverse fixture back at August or early september. We havent come back from being down to win for about 7 years and what a chance we had.
At deepdale we had spirit, 2 down and heads stayed high. We had Pawel linking up with Ameobi. Tenacity in the middle. Williams impressing. Goals in the team! and we were playing a fragile PNE team low on confidence. We should have gone in with a lead. We should have buried them. We came out and didnt have another shot o target. We held on. Had we have won i think the players would have taken a huge boost as it was it started the downfall. Weve never looked anywhere near that since.
Polar opposite now as were the team struggling and theyre on form. Will they be as generous and take the foot off the pedal. No chance. 1-4.
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Post by whitesince63 on Feb 8, 2019 10:23:26 GMT
Two things with that OM, first I can't see where your goal is coming from and second, although we don't win, as at Sheffield last week, we do seem to be able to stifle other teams and bring them down to our level, so I can't see North End getting 4 against us. I'd expect exactly the same as the last months with a boring, negative, containing excercise, which ultimately fails in a 0-1 or 0-2 defeat and few if any shots on goal. Parky just can't change so the only chance of anything is if he's forced by injury to field a more positive team than he would choose but looking at his history and the squad he's got, I don't see any hope of even that.
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Post by one2many on Feb 8, 2019 11:28:31 GMT
Sad isn't it?! We know we are going to lose and we don't even seem to care.
Donaldson to fall over in the box and win a penalty. They waltz thru our makeshift defence and score three. 1-3. Parkinson to be delighted with the spirit shown and if their first goal had been flagged offside we could have got something from the game.
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Post by parkyout on Feb 8, 2019 11:43:35 GMT
Parkinson won't have the balls to go for the win, 1 up front with a flat back 8, 1-3 P.N.E
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Post by whitesince63 on Feb 8, 2019 13:34:31 GMT
Sad isn't it?! We know we are going to lose and we don't even seem to care. Donaldson to fall over in the box and win a penalty. They waltz thru our makeshift defence and score three. 1-3. Parkinson to be delighted with the spirit shown and if their first goal had been flagged offside we could have got something from the game. Sadly o2m, you are spot on. Nobody seriously expects to win under Parky's set up and as you say, you can basically write the post match comments now, since they rarely change. In fact you can write the pre match comments too because all that changes is the player mouthpiece. Basically the saddest thing is I don't any longer care. I've already resigned myself to relegation since Kens obviously not going to sack Parkinson, we can only look forward to more of the same until the maths is certain. oh how I long for the takeover to happen to at least have some hope again.
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Post by OohMac on Feb 8, 2019 15:31:04 GMT
"I thought for spells in the match we were excellent and its an individual mistake thats cost us. The referee has clearly missed a clear penatly for us and failed to see the infringement for thier goals. We were in the game for long periods and the lads can take pride in that. Its what weve done all week in training. Theyve spent loads and are a premiership outfit so we can take a lot from that performance...."
"Phil, its Friday! Weve not played yet"
"Right. So we need to stick together and get behind the team and we can move on from this and bounce back"
"Friday Phil!"
"Oh yes. Keep forgetting"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 22:10:57 GMT
I really do want us to win against Preston but it's impossible for us to win without scoring so God only knows where the goals will come from. So Parky will say, if we could have done this and if we could have done that if the ref had given us that penalty. Score 0-2 sorry COYWM
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Post by andyl on Feb 9, 2019 9:37:41 GMT
So, I sit at my local railway station. My wife wished me 'a happy relaxing day watching the Wanderers' with more than a hint of irony from someone who has progressed from watching all to most to some to occasional home games in three seasons.
I'm thinking of great derbies past v PNE - a cup victory at Deepdale on Churchill's funeral day, a promotion winning penalty, a Stubbs led inspirational revival on a plastic pitch and so on. Recently at a rain affected Test Match a friend an I found we could recite all bar one of Preston's 1964 FA Cup final side- we forgot a Smith! The romance of it.
Now I think of what I'd like to see today, maybe Connell, maybe Pritchard, maybe Oztumer ( fat chance of that- yet still our most watchable and creative player even on the evidence of scraps.
I'm resigned, I think to relegation. Neither team nor manager are proving good enough at this level. Could they have been under different leadership or could he with different players?
Maybe tonight I'll be writing up an exhilarating multi- goal thriller or maybe just recycling every essay of stultification from earlier.
I found myself earlier in the week trying to justify a view that were it to happen Mark Warburton could be good for us. Seriously? Whole club philosophy, playing on the ground, attacking, promotion of youth. What need have we of that
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Post by OohMac on Feb 9, 2019 9:58:09 GMT
Like the Bill Bryson esqe write up Andy.
I very nearly took you to task when I read "neither team nor manager are up to this level" was going to say Preston have turned it round and....
Realised it read as "neither (our) team nor (our) manager can cut the mustard"
No argument about the latter. Still think theres a debate for the former.
Im reminded of a story when Sir Alex walked into the changing room at half time at White Hart Lane, his United side 3-0 down and he said "Lads, its Tottenham!" Full time result 5-3. I worry thats how every manager sees us. Its Bolton. They prefer you to have the ball. They wont attack. Lose the ball theyll give it you back. They score and they will crumble. We score and weve won. You can afford to attack and not worry about being countered. Let Magennis win the header if you like. No one supporting him.
Lee Johnson for instance 1-0, triple sub. Minutes later 2-1. So when the week later we once again go 1 up and less than 5 later. 1-1. Never in doubt really.
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Post by andyl on Feb 9, 2019 10:16:58 GMT
My oft repeated argument is that whilst it may be possible to win with low possession and fast counter attacking, in general teams with 30%possession will lose most games.
We combine flaky defence with pedestrian under resourced attacks. Not a recipe for success.
I've always thought it better to build a pattern built on the strengths of players rather than making them fit a predetermined approach. Phil P is wedded to the opposite.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 10:20:07 GMT
Excellent Andy I feel for you, my brother in the law and my nephew and all the hearty supporters that still turn up more in hope that anything else that at long last the penny will drop and Parky realises that for us to win we have to play football and score. Good luck to one and all who still goes . COYWM
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Post by whitesince63 on Feb 9, 2019 11:43:03 GMT
Yes, good luck to all who still go, you will today be outshouted and embarrassed by a solid Preston support getting behind a young progressive team and manager. Let's stop pretending that there is any hope of Parkinson changing his long held beliefs about how the game should be played because we know if we are honest that it just won't happen. It will again be stupefyingly boring and most probably unproductive as we lose again. I genuinely don't see where another point is coming from so no matter how badly the others do, we won't gain enough to save us from the drop. Even if the takeover does happen in the next couple of weeks it will probably come too late to help us stay up. This is a really depressing post but it reflects the total and absolute hopelessness I feel about the club at the moment. I'm no longer angry or disappointed to lose because I expect it and so am immune to all the feelings I would normally have. For all the attenders today I sincerely hope you're rewarded with something from the game but I do feel by doing so you are just prolonging the agony for us all.
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Post by davidm on Feb 9, 2019 11:46:39 GMT
Been thinking of the reverse fixture back at August or early september. We havent come back from being down to win for about 7 years and what a chance we had. At deepdale we had spirit, 2 down and heads stayed high. We had Pawel linking up with Ameobi. Tenacity in the middle. Williams impressing. Goals in the team! and we were playing a fragile PNE team low on confidence. We should have gone in with a lead. We should have buried them. We came out and didnt have another shot o target. We held on. Had we have won i think the players would have taken a huge boost as it was it started the downfall. Weve never looked anywhere near that since. Totally agree on this.
Despite the previous Saturday being slaughtered by Sheffield Utd, I put half-time at Deepdale down as the start of our dismal decline towards relegation.
We had come back from 2-0 down to equalise and were all over Preston. They were there for the taking for what would have been a third successive away victory.
Unfortunately, the half time whistle went and the manager got to our players.
We came out meekly and immediately settled for the point we had. Hardly any attacking – just sat back and held onto the point we had when a victory was there for us.
From that day on, we have played dull negative losing football.
I used to go to matches expecting to be entertained, to see us attack and to expect us to have a great chance of victory.
Now, we just expect to lose.
The seats around me at the stadium are looking empty these days. I sit in a group of season ticket holders and the numbers are getting less and less every match.
So I set off in hope but, realistically, I can’t see anything for us today or probably not until the middle of March by which time we will be bottom and resigned to league 1.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 14:40:57 GMT
Same tried and failed team with only one up front never mind eh same old same old. COYWM
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Post by whitesince63 on Feb 9, 2019 15:56:35 GMT
Yes chip and so far the same old story, a goal down, could have been more and we're not even in the game despite being at home. It really is beyond a joke now. How can anyone keep repeating the same things match after match without realising something has to change? Can't see any way back in this one now, not even anything on the bench to elicit a change, even if Parky could. So disappointing.
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